Lets talk GEC!

[B.F.U]

Gec will fix them even though they are a 2nd any gec is warranted for life against defects like the one you mentioned i have had them fix 2 factory seconds anjust give them a call

I was under the impression that the warranty worked how you state, and the "store" knives were only so because they had some small aesthetic issue that made GEC want to sell them in store so the customer could see it first.

This #25 was definitely treated more like a "second" than a "store knife" but I suspect that is more to do with the cover material, unicorn Ivory acrylic, being so problematic than an overall change in service.

My #35 seems to be fine. Just had some grit in the pivot it seems, hopefully nothing permanent.

 

[LastRodeo]

I was under the impression that the warranty worked how you state, and the "store" knives were only so because they had some small aesthetic issue that made GEC want to sell them in store so the customer could see it first.

This #25 was definitely treated more like a "second" than a "store knife" but I suspect that is more to do with the cover material, unicorn Ivory acrylic, being so problematic than an overall change in service.

My #35 seems to be fine. Just had some grit in the pivot it seems, hopefully nothing permanent.

I can understand them not wanting to fix cosmetic defects on knives that were sold as seconds because of the cosmetic defect, but if there is something functionally wrong with the knife, they should fix it.

 

[knifeswapper]

I can understand them not wanting to fix cosmetic defects on knives that were sold as seconds because of the cosmetic defect, but if there is something functionally wrong with the knife, they should fix it.

I think that is the typical treatment. They are "Store" because of cosmetic issues, not functional defects. Knives with functional defects are trashed or disassembled and never leave the factory. Generally the factory discounts out any profit and moves the "S" models just to recoup costs. Although their policy is "No Warranty" on them, a genuine functional defect would be a matter of communication. But these days things like off-center blades, under bladed tangs, and too heavy/light a pull have become functional defects - so they might be very cautious with this policy. But I expect that any conversation about a seized up blade not being something the factory would take a look at - was just a miscommunication somewhere.

 

[Goose 7279]

Hi Goose. I thought GEC would fix it too but it looks like GEC has a different perspective in this case.

I was under the impression that the warranty worked how you state, and the "store" knives were only so because they had some small aesthetic issue that made GEC want to sell them in store so the customer could see it first.

This #25 was definitely treated more like a "second" than a "store knife" but I suspect that is more to do with the cover material, unicorn Ivory acrylic, being so problematic than an overall change in service.

My #35 seems to be fine. Just had some grit in the pivot it seems, hopefully nothing permanent.

I think that is the typical treatment. They are "Store" because of cosmetic issues, not functional defects. Knives with functional defects are trashed or disassembled and never leave the factory. Generally the factory discounts out any profit and moves the "S" models just to recoup costs. Although their policy is "No Warranty" on them, a genuine functional defect would be a matter of communication. But these days things like off-center blades, under bladed tangs, and too heavy/light a pull have become functional defects - so they might be very cautious with this policy. But I expect that any conversation about a seized up blade not being something the factory would take a look at - was just a miscommunication somewhere.

Thanks mike for chiming in, nice to see a dealer weigh in on the issue. I have had 2 knives that were 2nds and they both were fixed including a 25 that had about the same issue. The way they told me via phone was that the store knives may have the cover or aesthetic issues but anything affecting function they will repair. Because it becomes more of a hazard to the user than a aesthetic problem. A quick phone call may go a long ways amd explain in detail the problem/hazards that it entails. The y really are a great company and will do anything to help resolve any issue. So as long as its a legitimate gripe i dont see them turning you down.

 

[B.F.U]

I think that is the typical treatment. They are "Store" because of cosmetic issues, not functional defects. Knives with functional defects are trashed or disassembled and never leave the factory. Generally the factory discounts out any profit and moves the "S" models just to recoup costs. Although their policy is "No Warranty" on them, a genuine functional defect would be a matter of communication. But these days things like off-center blades, under bladed tangs, and too heavy/light a pull have become functional defects - so they might be very cautious with this policy. But I expect that any conversation about a seized up blade not being something the factory would take a look at - was just a miscommunication somewhere.

I sent pictures and a pretty clear description. Maybe I'll call again. Like I've said every time, I've only ever gotten great service from everyone at GEC.

 

[totallynotalex]

Does anyone know of any other places to pre-order the 43 besides dlt? I'm just trying to get a feel for all of the different handle variations!

 

[knifeswapper]

Customers spoke...

 

[joeradza]

Seems unnecessary Mike, but I guess they felt the need to do something.

 

[filovirus]

Customers spoke...

That's the new 78, right?

 

[knifeswapper]

Seems unnecessary Mike, but I guess they felt the need to do something.

Not like they have a lot of variance, but I would like to see the actual steel type. "1095" would be shorter than "Carbon". But that entire conversation, as you elude to, is just the tiny particulars.

That's the new 78, right?

Yes, the Elderberry.

 

[B.F.U]

Not like they have a lot of variance, but I would like to see the actual steel type. "1095" would be shorter than "Carbon". But that entire conversation, as you elude to, is just the tiny particulars.


Yes, the Elderberry.

1095

440C

Those would be informative, traditional, and (I'd hope) universally accepted and enjoyed.

I think "Carbon" is a step in the right direction though.

 

[HST]

I’m don’t hate “Carbon,” but with others, the steel type seems more appropriate. Moreover, the obvious was pointed out, 1095 would have to be easier to stamp than Carbon. Personally, I like how Northwoods uses USA on the tang.

 

[Stropping Young Lad]

Not everyone knows what 1095 is. You’d probably get people assuming it’s a serial number.

 

[strokednbored]

Customers spoke...

Well, crap.
Here I thought I was going to hold off on this one... I really like that handle though.

 

[HST]

Stropping Young Lad Without a doubt, but it took me a few to figure out what GEC was doing completely.

I cannot get past - yet - having blades with Tidioute and Northfield on the same knife branded as one of the two mentioned. I cannot get past this and will not buy any knife that has two brands on blades on a knife’s trim. It’s lazy and cheap, IMO.

IMO, “Carbon” leaves too much to guess at which carbon steel is it? My immediate thought is 01 or 1095.

I don’t hate “Carbon” stamped on the tang, but it just leaves too much to guess. When these knives are collectibles as antiques, I can only imagine the conversations...

 

[black mamba]

Well, one thing's almost for certain, the CKC knives are destined to become collector's items!
Better snap 'em up while you can!

 

[BuckShack]

I like CARBON better than CKC. I think it looks old school and cool.

I hope it didn't cost much in tooling, downtime, wages and lost sales to make this change. It is a private company after all, they didn't have to listen to the customer.

 

[HST]

BuckShack I agree about Carbon over CKC. I didn’t see how CKC wasn’t going to infringe on the kennel club CKC.

My father was an industrialist amongst other things. Private company or not, it doesn’t exist without its customers. If I were GEC, I’d have a person collecting data for my future runs. I’d be watching and producing what my target audience wants.

 

[LastRodeo]

BuckShack I agree about Carbon over CKC. I didn’t see how CKC wasn’t going to infringe on the kennel club CKC.

My father was an industrialist amongst other things. Private company or not, it doesn’t exist without its customers. If I were GEC, I’d have a person collecting data for my future runs. I’d be watching and producing what my target audience wants.

I think about the annual thread about the next Bladeforums knife and shudder at the thought of GEC collecting data from customers to determine future runs.

 

[johnny twoshoes]

Stropping Young Lad Without a doubt, but it took me a few to figure out what GEC was doing completely.

I cannot get past - yet - having blades with Tidioute and Northfield on the same knife branded as one of the two mentioned. I cannot get past this and will not buy any knife that has two brands on blades on a knife’s trim. It’s lazy and cheap, IMO.

IMO, “Carbon” leaves too much to guess at which carbon steel is it? My immediate thought is 01 or 1095.

I don’t hate “Carbon” stamped on the tang, but it just leaves too much to guess. When these knives are collectibles as antiques, I can only imagine the conversations...

I’m confused, which knives have the two different brands on them? I haven’t been keeping up with all the new models.

I like the attempt by GEC to listen to their fan base with the new stamp. I personally like the carbon stamp, but like everything else it’s going to be opinion based.