Life after titanium framelock flippers

Art_Vandeley said:
Im back where I started. I want simple, effective liner locks, easy to disassemble, with washers so no crud can get into the bearing and I want steel that is easy to sharpen on the fly.

In short. Emerson Knives.
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Lol I was going to guess Emerson knives before I read that last line. I love them too. My only gripe about them is that the locks seem to often wear out fast.


danbot danbot I have become interested in front flippers but technically I guess that is against importation rules too. No part of the blade is supposed to flick the knife open. Since these silly rules only apply to importing the knives and not owning them I usually just ignore them and figure out a way to get my knives.

My biggest problem with ti frame/linerlocks is that they seem to be one of the locks most prone to wearing out and developing play. Unfortunately carburization a là CRk hasn’t become popular. Luckily steel lockbar inserts save the day!
 
danbot said:
I know that a lot of members here are tired of the Titanium framelock flipper fad and for me, living in Canada with the current import restrictions flippers of any kind are not going to be available.

So, if you're tired of the TFF fad, what would you like to see instead? Thumb studded, pocket clipped slipjoints? Locking friction folders? Some kind of cool new mechanisms?

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing more manufacturers making small (yet practical) EDC fixed blades. Maybe with some kind of pocket clipped sheath!
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Yup. Sick of them. Seems like nothing else has been made in the last 3-5 years.

But, people are still buying them like donuts at a fat guy convention...the bubble hasn't burst....and until it does I fear we will see an accelerating "more of the same."

I would really like to see a return to popularity of designs for a specific cutting use. Not just "speed of deployment" based design. Or "overbuilt" design.

To me, that would force more manufacturers to actually think about design and geometry, and I think that would vary the types of knives out there.

Right now its just the same darn knife over and over. I mean, you can change to blue screws nothing else and all of a sudden you got a collector item, sprint run, knife flipper frenzy.
 
Gideons said:
Always seemed like a weird rule. This is the internet, and not to mention that just makes people take a longer winded approach to the same end game.

Was describing while some people don't swear, their posts might as well.
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So I can assume that you really like titanium framelock flippers? No one is attacking them! Being bored of something doesn't mean you hate them.:rolleyes:
 
danbot said:
So I can assume that you really like titanium framelock flippers? No one is attacking them! Being bored of something doesn't mean you hate them.:rolleyes:
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They are my current favourite, however with the production of other locks + flippers, like the spyderco amalgam etc. or if benchmade could get a detent with their axis lock and a flipper I would really enjoy that. However, currently I would say I prefer framelock flippers, yes. Misjudged this thread, sorry about that.
 
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I’m certainly bored with them and have stopped buying any. G&G Hawk (and Spyderco) have provided many interesting alternatives and are now the bulk of my collection.
 
marcinek said:
Yup. Sick of them. Seems like nothing else has been made in the last 3-5 years.

But, people are still buying them like donuts at a fat guy convention...the bubble hasn't burst....and until it does I fear we will see an accelerating "more of the same."

I would really like to see a return to popularity of designs for a specific cutting use. Not just "speed of deployment" based design. Or "overbuilt" design.

To me, that would force more manufacturers to actually think about design and geometry, and I think that would vary the types of knives out there.

Right now its just the same darn knife over and over. I mean, you can change to blue screws nothing else and all of a sudden you got a collector item, sprint run, knife flipper frenzy.
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I have been done with the whole OVERBUILT thing for a long time now. A well designed knife doesn’t need to be overbuilt to be strong. Not to mentions I find it hilarious these “indestructible” titanium pocket bricks need to have a little thin cutout on the lockbar if you want to be able move the lock over.

Back on thread topic, I think it is apparent that liner/framelocks will never be the strongest lock design. Their main advantage is probably that people are familliar with them.
 
Gideons said:
Slightly updated post. This seems like just another stupid bladeforums thread that hate on certain things because, they have nothing better to do. "tired of s30v" thread v2.
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Gideons said:
Not offended lmao, just find BF many members of rather pathetic, same with the threads. Just posting my opinion on these useless threads.
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Who pissed in your cereal?

To the topic at hand, I never even got in to the framelock flipper fad. The closest I've had were Kershaw Leeks and a ZT or 2 in a passaround. Never floated my boat. Although after about a decade, give or take, of not owning a single frame or liner lock I just bought a carbon fiber Leek. So for me, the question isn't what I'll get in to after TFFs, it's what I might get in to after everybody else gets bored with them and companies start producing something else.

With the success and demand (that far exceeds supply) that Great Eastern cutlery has, I'd like to see more companies producing quality traditional styled knives. Modern interpretations as well. In the past few years there has been quite an increase in such knives, seemingly largely for the European market where locking folders are banned in many countries, but have also been gaining in popularity in the western market.

With the increasing number of states repealing switchblade restrictions, I hope that more companies will start producing them, and maybe some day the federal restrictions on them will be lifted as well, meaning interstate commerce and foreign importation would increase demand and production. Ditto balisongs.

Lastly, Benchmade's patent on the AXIS lock has, for better or worse, expired. It's my favorite lock, so I await to see what other companies might come up with.
 
I have to agree. I own my flippers still, but they’re not recent.

I really enjoy slippies. They cut well take an easy edge and offend no one...IME. I carry a slippie for most of my cutting tasks.

I also really like CRK now. I didn’t get it to begin with, but I do now. Easy to sharpen or maintain an edge, easy to disassemble, great refurbishing, holds value well, a nice tool, and is made for cutting. I love CRKs for the reasons you’re looking for - it’s a great tool.

That’s where I’m at currently.
 
91bravo said:
I actually like Ti framelocks, but don't care for flippers. So does that make me a Ti framelock flipper loverboy?
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Hey, it's not a bad thing to be! And like @Comeuppance said, they've been a thing for over a decade. I don't see them going away anytime soon, but inevitably I think they will become less and less popular. In their current form anyway.
 
I never got into the Flippers. I've only ever had three, and sold them not too long after getting them. And I kept them in Canada!

It's a rather useless opening mechanism in reality, and when pulling a knife from my pocket I can have the blade open ready to go faster with thumb studs or spidey hole.

It also means you should probably have bearings on your knife, which I am also not interested in as they just get full of dirt how I use my knives.

After being on an Emerson bender for a few solid months I think I'm gonna get a couple PM2's to spice things up. Unless another cool Emerson pops up that I can't say no to.

I had a PM2 and didn't like the compression lock, but I'll give it another try as I loved everything else about it. Wish I didn't sell it... but it's easy enough to replace.
 
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