Like a phoenix? CSC is reborn...

I keep going back to look at that pic of the finished knives. I can't express how happy I am that they're shield-less, just like the original clip bladed Eric's jacks.
 
Shurke said:
I keep going back to look at that pic of the finished knives. I can't express how happy I am that they're shield-less, just like the original clip bladed Eric's jacks.
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I actually contacted Red Hill about that once the knives were done. The original order was for shielded knives but after seeing how lively these covers were I knew trying to shield them would be a nightmare. I'd have to grind half the stag away. they totally agreed and said they look great as is, so shields are a no show. Got them all done, just have to edge them in the morning and ship them out. I'll try to take a group shot before I pack them.

Eric​
 
OLd_gUY said:
As the above statement by @draggat seems to contain a reference to a statement I made (which I had hoped would kinda die an go away on it's own - but since that doesn't seem like it's going to happen), I feel obligated to make one last attempt at clarification of my original statement in order to maintain my integrity.
Please bear in mind that the original statement was made in response to the blade steel/shape fiasco (now resolved). My statement can be found HERE if you feel like looking at it in it's entirety. And please also bear in mind that this is an attempt to clear the air about what I said, not to cast aspersions by bringing back a previous discussion from the grave.
I did not say that any one person was dishonest!
I did say that the business practice of changing the characteristics of a knife after orders had been accepted was a dishonest one.
The statement I made was (underlining added for clarification) as follows:
"Sure, this is an isolated incident involving a manufacturer with apparently dishonest business practices."
The word "dishonest" was used as an adjective to describe business practices, NOT as a descriptor of an individual!
An example of the word in this context can be found in the online version of the Merriam-Webster (so you can look it up, if so inclined) is:
"She gave dishonest answers to our questions." This sentence says that the answers are "dishonest". It does not say that "she" is dishonest.
The same entry contains synonyms for dishonest which are "unworthy of trust or belief."
PLEASE NOTE: again, my statement was in response to the allegation that the CO-OP had thought about changing blade steels and blade shape, AFTER orders had been accepted! In other words, the customer was not going to receive the knife he had ordered!
Here is the quoted post (by another member) to which I was responding when I used the word "dishonest":
"But if I heard the truth, then Josh at Red Hill has been fighting against Wally trying to change blade shapes and steels (according to Josh, Wally wanted to ditch the sheepsfoots too, after orders were placed, and make all clip points, and then have customers send in their knives to have the blades replaced after the fact)..."

In this light, I continue to stand by my original statement and the usage of the word "dishonest".

Without a doubt, Canal Street produced many fine knives in the past, as evidenced by the many pictures in this thread.
The CO-OP knives shown here demonstrate that the CO-OP is carrying on the same tradition.

Again, I sincerely hope that all receive the knives they have ordered.
OG
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Hey there, I understand why you needed to clarify but you shouldn't have to do so. Your sentence is clear as can be in meaning that the business practice is dishonest. I don't know if I'd say it's dishonest, but it's certainly something. One of the reasons I don't pay up front for knives, especially from a (frankly, but respectfully) unproven outfit (in its current form).

draggat said:
I never meant to bring your integrity into question or to offend you in any way. To be brutally honest, I may not have read the entire thread and I may have misinterpreted what you wrote. My bad. I think we can both agree that Wally is not a very good businessman. My personal interaction with him showed me that his customer service skills were pretty much non existent.

The truth is that none of us really know why they shut their doors in the first place nor what is going on with them currently. It’s pure conjecture.

I hope you all get your knives and I honestly do hope that CSC can get their act together because they can make quality knives. Heck, if they’d offered up a Swell Center Jack in one of those nifty handle materials, I probably would have broken my vow to never buy one again.
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It's great that the knives are coming through. But I'm still not going to preorder and pay up front, seeing how this round went. It's just not how knives should be sold in my opinion. Build, borrow, or buy capital before starting an endeavor. It seems the method of borrowing capital here was from the customer, which is not the best way to do it. If that was what was happening it should have been done through a crowd funding platform or the like.

ea42 said:
Hey folks, just wanted to shoot you a quick update: Just finishing up the buffing of the stag knives now, hopefully I'll have them in the mail tomorrow morning. Had a couple of delays (of course!) including slashing my thumb to the bone, but they're almost done! I'll be finishing the ram's horn in a couple of days, then on to the ironwood. Here's a quick shot of some of the knives. They're mighty dirty with buffing compound but it gives you an idea of what they'll look like:

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Eric
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ea42 said:
Stag knives are done, here's one last shot of the finished batch:

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These do look really great. Hope after this first round all the kinks have been worked out of the process.
 
L.H.S said:
...It's great that the knives are coming through. But I'm still not going to preorder and pay up front, seeing how this round went. It's just not how knives should be sold in my opinion. Build, borrow, or buy capital before starting an endeavor. It seems the method of borrowing capital here was from the customer, which is not the best way to do it. If that was what was happening it should have been done through a crowd funding platform or the like.
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I like the socialist concept of cutting out the capitalist's cut and letting the workers and sales force get the cash. There's a lot of people with serious cash chasing traditional pocket knives these days, they can certainly afford a "bet" like this. The more money that goes in the cutler's pocket, the more likely this handmade product will survive. Essentially there's nothing different here than what is done for the Bladeforum's traditional annual knife, which is also pre-order and pre-payment.
 
Top notch stag on this bunch, I don't see a single dud in there. But my eye keeps getting drawn to the lower right corner of the pic.

Nothing to do now but keep my fingers crossed and wait to see which one shows up in my mail box.
 
Shurke, this is the wildest of the bunch, total popcorn. It's on the pile side because shields were still in play at that point and I couldn't imagine trying to install one in that! If anyone here winds up with it do post a picture! The rest are quite a bit more tame.

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Eric
 
ea42 said:
Shurke, this is the wildest of the bunch, total popcorn. It's on the pile side because shields were still in play at that point and I couldn't imagine trying to install one in that! If anyone here winds up with it do post a picture! The rest are quite a bit more tame.
Eric
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OMG, that's the stag that dreams are made of!
 
Not a bad bit of stag in the bunch, they all look exceptional. Congrats to all the recipients!
 
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