Lion Steel "Roundhead" Euro-Barlow

I notice some folks saying that the light showing in between the liners and spring is a F&F issue, and I don't think it is (entirely).
Hear me out.

If you look into the blade well with the blade open, you will see that the liners are flush at the butt of the handle. But due to the space needed for the washers, there is a gap up front. This gap is the same width as the washers, and the only reason it is there.

If they did not use washers, they could have had this as tight as a GEC blade, but possibly not be as smooth from the beginning. Our knives do not require a break in, due to the washers. As they wear, we can actually tighten them up a bit due to the pivot construction. This will keep them feeling "factory tight" for a longer period of time.

Now, to agree that this can still be considered a F&F issue, yes, they could have used a thinner blade stock to make up for the added thickness of the washers, or used thicker liners and milled them to cup the washer slightly, but each of these "fixes" would have added their own issues.
A) Thinner blade stock = not matching the spring thickness = less eye appeal and a less stout blade.
B) Thinner spring to match the thinner blade stock, i.e. both being the same thickness = same set up as we are currently in = gap.
C) Thicker milled liners = more labor and more costs that would have to be pushed onto the customer = a more expensive knife. Some folks were already a bit dismayed by the slight bump due to exchange rate changes.

After thinking about this for a little bit, I am absolutely fine with the give and take that there is between what we received from what we paid. I can give a bit of a gap to keep the pivot adjustable and maintain the feel of the knife (presumably) two, three, five plus years down the line.
 
I think people are just used to not having that gap is the issue or seeing it with a F&F issue of a true traditional. The end result with this knife though is great so despite if it is or isn't a F&F issue we don't really have much to complain about.
 
I received my stag today. I think it is a great design and the build quality is excellent. Thanks to Mike and LionSteel for making this happen, and thanks to Mike for getting them out so quickly.
 
I notice some folks saying that the light showing in between the liners and spring is a F&F issue, and I don't think it is (entirely).
Hear me out.

If you look into the blade well with the blade open, you will see that the liners are flush at the butt of the handle. But due to the space needed for the washers, there is a gap up front. This gap is the same width as the washers, and the only reason it is there.

If they did not use washers, they could have had this as tight as a GEC blade, but possibly not be as smooth from the beginning. Our knives do not require a break in, due to the washers. As they wear, we can actually tighten them up a bit due to the pivot construction. This will keep them feeling "factory tight" for a longer period of time.

Excellent explanation. :thumbsup:
 
I think I might have the only true F&F issue so far.
My liners are a bit dinged up and marred. Which stinks because I like the covers and the knife otherwise...
See pics:
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Both liners, near center pivot pin.

I don't know what I am going to do.
Probably going to keep it, since I was planning on using it, and I am sure it would get a few marks on it during its lifetime. But it is a bit of a shame that it came out from the factory like this...
 
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I think I might have the only true F&F issue so far.
While I was addressing the issue with the screw that I mentioned earlier. (Thought it was cross-threaded, but turned out to be gunk in a thread, cleaned out and screw fit fine.)

But I digress, I think I have the only F&F issue so far. My liners are a bit dinged up and marred. Which stinks because I like the covers and the knife otherwise...
See pics:
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Both liners, near center pivot pin.

I don't know what I am going to do.
Probably going to keep it, since I was planning on using it, and I am sure it would get a few marks on it during its lifetime. But it is a bit of a shame that it came out from the factory like this...

Those marks are minor, take heart it just shows that a human made it :)
 
After seeing a Video of it on Jumbo Tv I just had to have one so just put the order in . Was not even in the loop knowing about them until then " Big Thanks to Jimbo!!" . I couldn't resist the CF though being its a great match with all the
Modern steel and concept .
I'm really digging all the blade handles to especially the Rams Horn .
 
View attachment 749104 View attachment 749105 Got my ram's horn today and I love it. The texture and variation in the covers is better than I expected.
Absolutely Gorgeous.
I love how it looks like ripples on an otherwise glass calm pond. Starts out tight and then opens up as they travel further out.
Reflections of a lakeside aspen or birch stand in the fall...
Simply Outstanding.
 
Just because it's being discussed, I checked to see if there were any gaps. I had to shine a flashlight behind the spine to see a sliver of light. I know everyone has their pet peeves, but I can't imagine that bothering me. It could be because I mostly collect well used vintage knives and most of them are hardly airtight.
My point being, I'm very pleased with the construction of this knife. :thumbsup:
 
Just because it's being discussed, I checked to see if there were any gaps. I had to shine a flashlight behind the spine to see a sliver of light. I know everyone has their pet peeves, but I can't imagine that bothering me. It could be because I mostly collect well used vintage knives and most of them are hardly airtight.
My point being, I'm very pleased with the construction of this knife. :thumbsup:

I did the same. Slight gap. Not an issue.
Love my mine in the santo wood. Ordered another in rams horn after seeing the pictures here.
Home run in my book.

Mike for the next runs - Bocote covers, then a clip point... don't change anything else.
 
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