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LionSteel Shuffler
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This is my first knife of these Lionsteel/CK collaborations. The first thing that I noticed was how light this knife is! The walk and talk feels about a 5 or 6, the blade thickness and edge thickness feels about the same as my 78 American jack (clip/pen) it’s also a little thicker in the handle than the 78. I don’t have any complaints so far.
Handle (95mm) and blade (75mm) are the same length (but different material of course, the stag is more rounded and thicker). Better pics tomorrow during daylight.
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I went and retrieved my Shuffler from the mailbox on my lunch break and thought I would provide some pictures and some thoughts. I won't go into quite as much detail as I did on my Roundhead, simply because other than the cover materials and the blade, they aren't all that different.
Same quality materials, design, and construction. No surprises in that sense. I am usually a sucker for wood covers and since I already have a Roundhead in Ram's Horn, I opted to go with the Bocote this time around. Though I do think it goes without saying, the Ram's Horn is easily one of the cover options that really make these Euro Barlows shine. I have a second Roundhead in the horn reserved for Round 3 and one in the Walnut as well (truly an under appreciated wood, in my opinion).
That all being said, this Bocote I received is exceptional:
Mark side:
Pile side (note the straighter grain here):
I will go over some of the same elements I did in my Roundhead write up and for the sake of consistency, I will follow the same format.
Blade and Edge:
Obviously the thing that sets the Shuffler apart from the Roundhead is the blade shape. The Roundhead comes with a spear point and the Shuffler comes with a clip. I will admit, I am not a connoisseur of clip blades and I do not have many knives that sport such as a main blade, so it is safe to say that it isn't my favorite shape. That being said, I really like how LionSteel executed this particular blade. With its increased belly, it is actually a bit broader than the spear of the Roundhead and with its long swedge and pull, it has a really nice clean and classy look. If I have an attraction to clip blades, it is usually to the broader styles of clip, I am not as much a fan of the narrower alternative.
Something of note: The blade on this appears to have been ground a bit thinner than the spear on the Roundhead and I have a feeling this is going to be a much better slicer. I find this to be a very good thing, the edge on the Roundhead is almost too obtuse, but nothing some work on the stones won't fix.
The etched logos are crisp and clean, not exhibiting anything different than what is presented on the Roundhead.
The edge is keener out of the box than my Roundhead was and I attribute that to the thinner grind. Though some additional honing might be required, it still takes hair off my arm and the edge is ground evenly and consistently aside from a very small ding at the broadest point of the blade. This would be my one complaint. It would appear that there is enough belly on this blade that I am experiencing some minor blade rap. Not a huge issue with me as I can just be mindful of how I close it until a sharpening or two removes that from being a problem altogether.
Overall Fit and Finish:
Again, I am not a huge stickler for things that might bother others. Aside from the possible blade rap, everything else is as I have come to expect based on the Euro Barlows I have handled up to this point. Everything is tight, everything is joined together as it should, covers are tight and smooth with no gaps or warping. Blade is centered and there is no wobble to be found (which I suppose is a moot point, considering that adjustments can be made rather easily)
Walk and Talk:
I haven't played with this quite as much once I discovered the small ding on the edge but I deemed it to be slightly better than my Roundhead was out of the box and I expect it to only improve with use.
At the half stop:
Fully extended:
Nicely centered blade:
I thought I would show some comparison pictures of the Roundhead and Shuffler. The Ram's Horn certainly makes for a chunkier handle, but I really do like them both quite a bit.
Another knockout, Mike! Very well done, this knife is going to see a fair amount of pocket time. I am looking forward to continuing to experience your collaborations and designs in the not so distant future.
Cheers, everyone.
Same quality materials, design, and construction. No surprises in that sense. I am usually a sucker for wood covers and since I already have a Roundhead in Ram's Horn, I opted to go with the Bocote this time around. Though I do think it goes without saying, the Ram's Horn is easily one of the cover options that really make these Euro Barlows shine. I have a second Roundhead in the horn reserved for Round 3 and one in the Walnut as well (truly an under appreciated wood, in my opinion).
That all being said, this Bocote I received is exceptional:
Mark side:
Pile side (note the straighter grain here):
I will go over some of the same elements I did in my Roundhead write up and for the sake of consistency, I will follow the same format.
Blade and Edge:
Obviously the thing that sets the Shuffler apart from the Roundhead is the blade shape. The Roundhead comes with a spear point and the Shuffler comes with a clip. I will admit, I am not a connoisseur of clip blades and I do not have many knives that sport such as a main blade, so it is safe to say that it isn't my favorite shape. That being said, I really like how LionSteel executed this particular blade. With its increased belly, it is actually a bit broader than the spear of the Roundhead and with its long swedge and pull, it has a really nice clean and classy look. If I have an attraction to clip blades, it is usually to the broader styles of clip, I am not as much a fan of the narrower alternative.
Something of note: The blade on this appears to have been ground a bit thinner than the spear on the Roundhead and I have a feeling this is going to be a much better slicer. I find this to be a very good thing, the edge on the Roundhead is almost too obtuse, but nothing some work on the stones won't fix.
The etched logos are crisp and clean, not exhibiting anything different than what is presented on the Roundhead.
The edge is keener out of the box than my Roundhead was and I attribute that to the thinner grind. Though some additional honing might be required, it still takes hair off my arm and the edge is ground evenly and consistently aside from a very small ding at the broadest point of the blade. This would be my one complaint. It would appear that there is enough belly on this blade that I am experiencing some minor blade rap. Not a huge issue with me as I can just be mindful of how I close it until a sharpening or two removes that from being a problem altogether.
Overall Fit and Finish:
Again, I am not a huge stickler for things that might bother others. Aside from the possible blade rap, everything else is as I have come to expect based on the Euro Barlows I have handled up to this point. Everything is tight, everything is joined together as it should, covers are tight and smooth with no gaps or warping. Blade is centered and there is no wobble to be found (which I suppose is a moot point, considering that adjustments can be made rather easily)
Walk and Talk:
I haven't played with this quite as much once I discovered the small ding on the edge but I deemed it to be slightly better than my Roundhead was out of the box and I expect it to only improve with use.
At the half stop:
Fully extended:
Nicely centered blade:
I thought I would show some comparison pictures of the Roundhead and Shuffler. The Ram's Horn certainly makes for a chunkier handle, but I really do like them both quite a bit.
Another knockout, Mike! Very well done, this knife is going to see a fair amount of pocket time. I am looking forward to continuing to experience your collaborations and designs in the not so distant future.
Cheers, everyone.
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Ooooohhh, I love the slight red in the roundhead scales!I went and retrieved my Shuffler from the mailbox on my lunch break and thought I would provide some pictures and some thoughts. I won't go into quite as much detail as I did on my Roundhead, simply because other than the cover materials and the blade, they aren't all that different.
Same quality materials, design, and construction. No surprises in that sense. I am usually a sucker for wood covers and since I already have a Roundhead in Ram's Horn, I opted to go with the Bocote this time around. Though I do think it goes without saying, the Ram's Horn is easily one of the cover options that really make these Euro Barlows shine. I have a second Roundhead in the horn reserved for Round 3 and one in the Walnut as well (truly an under appreciated wood, in my opinion).
That all being said, this Bocote I received is exceptional:
Mark side:
Pile side (note the straighter grain here):
I will go over some of the same elements I did in my Roundhead write up and for the sake of consistency, I will follow the same format.
Blade and Edge:
Obviously the thing that sets the Shuffler apart from the Roundhead is the blade shape. The Roundhead comes with a spear point and the Shuffler comes with a clip. I will admit, I am not a connoisseur of clip blades and I do not have many knives that sport such as a main blade, so it is safe to say that it isn't my favorite shape. That being said, I really like how LionSteel executed this particular blade. With its increased belly, it is actually a bit broader than the spear of the Roundhead and with its long swedge and pull, it has a really nice clean and classy look. If I have an attraction to clip blades, it is usually to the broader styles of clip, I am not as much a fan of the narrower alternative.
Something of note: The blade on this appears to have been ground a bit thinner than the spear on the Roundhead and I have a feeling this is going to be a much better slicer. I find this to be a very good thing, the edge on the Roundhead is almost too obtuse, but nothing some work on the stones won't fix.
The etched logos are crisp and clean, not exhibiting anything different than what is presented on the Roundhead.
The edge is keener out of the box than my Roundhead was and I attribute that to the thinner grind. Though some additional honing might be required, it still takes hair off my arm and the edge is ground evenly and consistently aside from a very small ding at the broadest point of the blade. This would be my one complaint. It would appear that there is enough belly on this blade that I am experiencing some minor blade rap. Not a huge issue with me as I can just be mindful of how I close it until a sharpening or two removes that from being a problem altogether.
Overall Fit and Finish:
Again, I am not a huge stickler for things that might bother others. Aside from the possible blade rap, everything else is as I have come to expect based on the Euro Barlows I have handled up to this point. Everything is tight, everything is joined together as it should, covers are tight and smooth with no gaps or warping. Blade is centered and there is no wobble to be found (which I suppose is a moot point, considering that adjustments can be made rather easily)
Walk and Talk:
I haven't played with this quite as much once I discovered the small ding on the edge but I deemed it to be slightly better than my Roundhead was out of the box and I expect it to only improve with use.
At the half stop:
Fully extended:
Nicely centered blade:
I thought I would show some comparison pictures of the Roundhead and Shuffler. The Ram's Horn certainly makes for a chunkier handle, but I really do like them both quite a bit.
Another knockout, Mike! Very well done, this knife is going to see a fair amount of pocket time. I am looking forward to continuing to experience your collaborations and designs in the not so distant future.
Cheers, everyone.
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I went and retrieved my Shuffler from the mailbox on my lunch break and thought I would provide some pictures and some thoughts. I won't go into quite as much detail as I did on my Roundhead, simply because other than the cover materials and the blade, they aren't all that different.
Same quality materials, design, and construction. No surprises in that sense. I am usually a sucker for wood covers and since I already have a Roundhead in Ram's Horn, I opted to go with the Bocote this time around. Though I do think it goes without saying, the Ram's Horn is easily one of the cover options that really make these Euro Barlows shine. I have a second Roundhead in the horn reserved for Round 3 and one in the Walnut as well (truly an under appreciated wood, in my opinion).
That all being said, this Bocote I received is exceptional:
Mark side:
Pile side (note the straighter grain here):
I will go over some of the same elements I did in my Roundhead write up and for the sake of consistency, I will follow the same format.
Blade and Edge:
Obviously the thing that sets the Shuffler apart from the Roundhead is the blade shape. The Roundhead comes with a spear point and the Shuffler comes with a clip. I will admit, I am not a connoisseur of clip blades and I do not have many knives that sport such as a main blade, so it is safe to say that it isn't my favorite shape. That being said, I really like how LionSteel executed this particular blade. With its increased belly, it is actually a bit broader than the spear of the Roundhead and with its long swedge and pull, it has a really nice clean and classy look. If I have an attraction to clip blades, it is usually to the broader styles of clip, I am not as much a fan of the narrower alternative.
Something of note: The blade on this appears to have been ground a bit thinner than the spear on the Roundhead and I have a feeling this is going to be a much better slicer. I find this to be a very good thing, the edge on the Roundhead is almost too obtuse, but nothing some work on the stones won't fix.
The etched logos are crisp and clean, not exhibiting anything different than what is presented on the Roundhead.
The edge is keener out of the box than my Roundhead was and I attribute that to the thinner grind. Though some additional honing might be required, it still takes hair off my arm and the edge is ground evenly and consistently aside from a very small ding at the broadest point of the blade. This would be my one complaint. It would appear that there is enough belly on this blade that I am experiencing some minor blade rap. Not a huge issue with me as I can just be mindful of how I close it until a sharpening or two removes that from being a problem altogether.
Overall Fit and Finish:
Again, I am not a huge stickler for things that might bother others. Aside from the possible blade rap, everything else is as I have come to expect based on the Euro Barlows I have handled up to this point. Everything is tight, everything is joined together as it should, covers are tight and smooth with no gaps or warping. Blade is centered and there is no wobble to be found (which I suppose is a moot point, considering that adjustments can be made rather easily)
Walk and Talk:
I haven't played with this quite as much once I discovered the small ding on the edge but I deemed it to be slightly better than my Roundhead was out of the box and I expect it to only improve with use.
At the half stop:
Fully extended:
Nicely centered blade:
I thought I would show some comparison pictures of the Roundhead and Shuffler. The Ram's Horn certainly makes for a chunkier handle, but I really do like them both quite a bit.
Another knockout, Mike! Very well done, this knife is going to see a fair amount of pocket time. I am looking forward to continuing to experience your collaborations and designs in the not so distant future.
Cheers, everyone.
I completely agree with you on the clip point blade this knife has, it just looks great. I also like how the long pull looks and length of it
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I went and retrieved my Shuffler from the mailbox on my lunch break and thought I would provide some pictures and some thoughts. I won't go into quite as much detail as I did on my Roundhead, simply because other than the cover materials and the blade, they aren't all that different.
Same quality materials, design, and construction. No surprises in that sense. I am usually a sucker for wood covers and since I already have a Roundhead in Ram's Horn, I opted to go with the Bocote this time around. Though I do think it goes without saying, the Ram's Horn is easily one of the cover options that really make these Euro Barlows shine. I have a second Roundhead in the horn reserved for Round 3 and one in the Walnut as well (truly an under appreciated wood, in my opinion).
That all being said, this Bocote I received is exceptional:
Mark side:
Pile side (note the straighter grain here):
I will go over some of the same elements I did in my Roundhead write up and for the sake of consistency, I will follow the same format.
Blade and Edge:
Obviously the thing that sets the Shuffler apart from the Roundhead is the blade shape. The Roundhead comes with a spear point and the Shuffler comes with a clip. I will admit, I am not a connoisseur of clip blades and I do not have many knives that sport such as a main blade, so it is safe to say that it isn't my favorite shape. That being said, I really like how LionSteel executed this particular blade. With its increased belly, it is actually a bit broader than the spear of the Roundhead and with its long swedge and pull, it has a really nice clean and classy look. If I have an attraction to clip blades, it is usually to the broader styles of clip, I am not as much a fan of the narrower alternative.
Something of note: The blade on this appears to have been ground a bit thinner than the spear on the Roundhead and I have a feeling this is going to be a much better slicer. I find this to be a very good thing, the edge on the Roundhead is almost too obtuse, but nothing some work on the stones won't fix.
The etched logos are crisp and clean, not exhibiting anything different than what is presented on the Roundhead.
The edge is keener out of the box than my Roundhead was and I attribute that to the thinner grind. Though some additional honing might be required, it still takes hair off my arm and the edge is ground evenly and consistently aside from a very small ding at the broadest point of the blade. This would be my one complaint. It would appear that there is enough belly on this blade that I am experiencing some minor blade rap. Not a huge issue with me as I can just be mindful of how I close it until a sharpening or two removes that from being a problem altogether.
Overall Fit and Finish:
Again, I am not a huge stickler for things that might bother others. Aside from the possible blade rap, everything else is as I have come to expect based on the Euro Barlows I have handled up to this point. Everything is tight, everything is joined together as it should, covers are tight and smooth with no gaps or warping. Blade is centered and there is no wobble to be found (which I suppose is a moot point, considering that adjustments can be made rather easily)
Walk and Talk:
I haven't played with this quite as much once I discovered the small ding on the edge but I deemed it to be slightly better than my Roundhead was out of the box and I expect it to only improve with use.
At the half stop:
Fully extended:
Nicely centered blade:
I thought I would show some comparison pictures of the Roundhead and Shuffler. The Ram's Horn certainly makes for a chunkier handle, but I really do like them both quite a bit.
Another knockout, Mike! Very well done, this knife is going to see a fair amount of pocket time. I am looking forward to continuing to experience your collaborations and designs in the not so distant future.
Cheers, everyone.
REALLY nice wood!!
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Hope to see more of the ram's horn pic. Got the ram's horn on the first edition of the Roundhead and wanted to do the same with the Shuffler. What Mike said about the horn being somewhat blonde this go round seems to be right on. Mine almost resembles musk ox ... and that's not, by any means, a complaint. Looks very good to me (though I do wish for more texture). Here are a couple pics plus a comparison shot with my Roundhead.
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Hope to see more of the ram's horn pic. Got the ram's horn on the first edition of the Roundhead and wanted to do the same with the Shuffler. What Mike said about the horn being somewhat blonde this go round seems to be right on. Mine almost resembles musk ox ... and that's not, by any means, a complaint. Looks very good to me (though I do wish for more texture). Here are a couple pics plus a comparison shot with my Roundhead.
Love the horn on that Shuffler! Fantastic pictures.
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Rams Horn shuffler in the house joining my Palo Santo roundhead from the original run.
First Impression: Wow!!!...the dark horn was really eye catching and exactly what I hoped for! Quickly checked over the fit/finish/walk/talk and everything was spot on! Tested the edge and holy smokes, scary sharp out of box (significantly sharper than my roundhead). Overall very happy camper...great job CKE and Lionsteel
First Impression: Wow!!!...the dark horn was really eye catching and exactly what I hoped for! Quickly checked over the fit/finish/walk/talk and everything was spot on! Tested the edge and holy smokes, scary sharp out of box (significantly sharper than my roundhead). Overall very happy camper...great job CKE and Lionsteel
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Those are all looking great ! making the wait that much tougher to do 
Glad to hear they ground the blade down thinner on the clip point, anyone take a measure of how thick above the edge bevel yet?
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Glad to hear they ground the blade down thinner on the clip point, anyone take a measure of how thick above the edge bevel yet?
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Rams Horn shuffler in the house joining my Palo Santo roundhead from the original run.
First Impression: Wow!!!...the dark horn was really eye catching and exactly what I hoped for! Quickly checked over the fit/finish/walk/talk and everything was spot on! Tested the edge and holy smokes, scary sharp out of box (significantly sharper than my roundhead). Overall very happy camper...great job CKE and Lionsteel
Brian, that horn is simply beautiful!
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Regarding the clip point, the earlier shot next to a GEC clip point seemed to show that the shuffler keeps a more gradual belly to the point. I don’t know enough about edge geometry to say how that performs different, but it gives the knife s slimmer looking profile, it seems. All of the covers look outstanding!
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The bocote on mine is not something I would ooooh and ahhhh over in photos, but in hand it is real satisfying and has so much character.
Mike, this is an exceptional production. I haven't sharpened yet, but the grind is clearly thinner and the choil is executed properly. Those were my criticisms of the roundhead. the clip blade shape is superb... and mega kudos for maintaining the nail nick on both sides. A++