Lock Strength Test Request - Extrema Ratio RAO vs the Cold Steel 4-MAX

Seriously, Is the only way we are going to see these two blades go at it is to pin the 4MAX as well? Because there is no way an Axis lock horizontal or vertical can ever hold up to a Tri-Ad lock without one.
 
There's a pin, but there's no solid tang. And should that pin fail the lock is what would be holding the blade in the open position. To me, that is still a folder that has been enhanced by a safety feature that makes it fixed blade-like, and not a fixed blade.

The sheath being designed to hold it in the open position doesn't mean much in and of itself. One could carry it folded, and screw in the pin when taking the knife out to be used, and taking the pin out when putting the knife away.
 
Sorry, Jim. Fixed-blade knives don't fold . . . ever. Screwing or unscewing things into them doesn't change that. They just don't fold. That's what the word "fixed" in the conjugation "fixed-blade" means.

The only way to turn a folder into a fixed-blade is to solder or weld the blade to the handle so it becomes permanent.

I can't believe I'm having to explain this to you.
 
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Jonslaught said:
Seriously, Is the only way we are going to see these two blades go at it is to pin the 4MAX as well? Because there is no way an Axis lock horizontal or vertical can hold up to a Tri-Ad lock without one.
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I dunno, we will have to wait and see I suppose.

It's up to CS in the end what they will do.

Personally I think it's a waste of time as the RAO is a ridiculous knife in the 1st place, I had one here and don't know what anyone would actually do with one outside of the Italian Special Forces that it was designed for so they would have to carry it.
 
Ankerson said:
. . . the RAO is a ridiculous knife in the 1st place, I had one here and don't know what anyone would actually do with one outside of the Italian Special Forces that it was designed for so they would have to carry it.
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I agree with you completely. And that's entirely beside the point.
 
Speaking of the RAO, my RAO chinese clone just shipped! Which CS knife shall I test it on?

BTW I learned the "Axis Lock" on the clone is just there to disengage a common back lock. I pretty much got it for looks. So a $35 toy im gettin lol.
 
Could we claim that the winner is the strongest 4" folding clone in the world? ;)

Wait! Stop!! Hold it!!! This is getting ridiculous. We need a time out here . . . :rolleyes: :D
 
Well if we want to really get technical here......

The 4 Max has a 4" blade.

The RAO is a 4 1/2" blade.

That's getting technical and being exact.

So CS can say what they are saying about the 4 Max.

Now if EO shorted the Blade to 4"....... ;)
 
Ankerson said:
Well if we want to really get technical here......

The 4 Max has a 4" blade.

The RAO is a 4 1/2" blade.

That's getting technical and being exact.

So CS can say what they are saying about the 4 Max.

Now if EO shorted the Blade to 4"....... ;)
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Demko likes to remove the tips on the tested knives, maybe he can shave off a half inch.
 
Ankerson said:
Well if we want to really get technical here......

The 4 Max has a 4" blade.

The RAO is a 4 1/2" blade.

That's getting technical and being exact.

So CS can say what they are saying about the 4 Max.

Now if EO shorted the Blade to 4"....... ;)
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Yeah, I know. I figure the blade length is close enough for jazz though. We'll see if CS agrees. But if they won't test them against one another on the basis of 1/2" of blade length, they'll be taking the chicken way out.
 
bld522 said:
Yeah, I know. I figure the blade length is close enough for jazz though. We'll see if CS agrees. But if they won't compare them on the basis of 1/2" of blade length, they'll be taking the chicken way out.
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You mean like EO putting a dead bolt in their knife to support the lock. ;)
 
Still doesn't make it fixed-blade, brother. And the title of "strongest 4" folding knife in the world" is still on the line.
 
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