Looking for folding pocket knives brand that don't use ball bearings for blade swinging

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Arathol said:
These Twosun knives have bearings, but none of them were more than $50 at time of purchase-
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What models are they?

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alan0354 said:
The problem is most are made in China, I do not trust anything from China, so even the middle of the road brand can have blades that are not heat treated well.
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What am I missing? Every knife you posted is made in China.
 
tokerblue said:
What am I missing? Every knife you posted is made in China.
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The amount I am willing to pay, I have no choice, I have to fix most of them to make them good. Mostly the line lock are not fully engaged, only half way. A lot of them have to loosen the pivot screw for the blade to swing freely, I have to thin out the G10 part a little to free the blade up. It's so common.
 
If you are interested in the Steel Will Warbot that you have pictured in the original post let me know. I can get it very close to $80. Green handle part serrated and black handle non-serrated are currently in stock.
 
vjb.knife said:
If you are interested in the Steel Will Warbot that you have pictured in the original post let me know. I can get it very close to $80. Green handle part serrated and black handle non-serrated are currently in stock.
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I bought it already, it'll arrive tomorrow. i can't wait. I bought it for $70, then Amazon raised the price a lot a day after I bought it!!!
 
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Lee D said:
Probably because most people don’t want the blade to drop on their thumb when the liner or frame lock is disengaged.
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Here are the example I said I had to fix on a lot of knives.

This picture shows typical problem when I first got the knives, very common. Notice the line it not fully under the blade. There is not much overlap. When you use the knife, your hand can move the liner out enough the blade can disengage and drop on your hand.





This is a typical picture after I fixed the knife. Notice the liner is way under the blade and has room to spare?




This is very typical problem. People should double check their knives. THIS IS VERY VERY IMPORTANT.
 
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alan0354 said:
When you use the knife, your hand can move the liner out enough the blade can disengage and drop on your hand.



This is a typical picture after I fixed the knife. Notice the liner is way under the blade and has room to spare?
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Liner locks tend to break in with use, I don’t see any need to speed up the process. If you’re that concerned about a lock failing, grab a fixed blade.
 
Lee D said:
Liner locks tend to break in with use, I don’t see any need to speed up the process. If you’re that concerned about a lock failing, grab a fixed blade.
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It's not about break in, the line is NOT bent enough. It's so easy to test, you can try to push the line more under the blade, if it is not bent enough, it actually will bounce back. You need to open it, put the liner on a vise, bend it carefully a little at a time, try and see, repeat again if needed. It just takes time and care.

If the liner is not bent enough, no break in will make it better. It will just bounce even if you try to push it in. I did at least 7 or 8 knives like this already.

Fixed blade is not legal to carry, that's the big difference.
 
Lee D said:
Instead of buying seven or eight $30 knives, buy one with better materials and a stronger lock. Problem solved.
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I don't think more expensive is better, that's the problem. I have knives up to $70 so far like Kizer, Off-Grid, they both need to be fixed. You cannot use price as indication of quality. I can make a cheaper knife good and reliable.

You can argue the more expensive knives has better steel for blades, BUT how do you know how good they quench the blade? You have to take it by faith!!! For self defense, as long as the blade don't break, edge retention is NOT the most important thing. It's the toughness that is more important.

What is important for self defense and survival like in car accident is it has to be tough, blade don't break if you have to pry metal, thick metal liner in the handle, the liner in deep in the line lock. I described already the Off-Grid Enforcer that is not a cheap knife, it's bad inside and I returned it.

I don't mind spending a lot of money if I am convinced that an expensive knife is better. I am just NOT convinced. I am not like a lot of knife collectors that go for fancy designs, big name designers, unique shapes and all. My only concern is self defense and one time survival.
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
Remind me not to buy a knife on the exchange from this gentleman.
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I don't exchange, I treat my knives really carefully. These are NOT expensive items even if it's over $400. It never even cross my mind exchanging. I would NEVER buy a used knife!!! Like I NEVER buy a used gun. In fact, I don't buy used car since I can afford to buy new cars long long time ago.
 
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sharp_edge said:
It depends on the definition of "expensive."
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Like over $300. No reasonable knife worth that kind of money other than the name, the designer and all that.

Hell, it's very hard press for me to believe any knife can worth more than $150 just judging by the quality.
 
alan0354 said:
Like over $300. No reasonable knife worth that kind of money other than the name, the designer and all that.

Hell, it's very hard press for me to believe any knife can worth more than $150 just judging by the quality.
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Nothing wrong with what you said. But on this forum, $300 is regarded by many as a mid range price, or maybe just slightly above the mid range.
 
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