M4 Ti Millie Alert!!!

As with a gun or any other tool, proper maintenance is just part of it's continued use.

And kinda fun ~;-)
 
Hi folks -

I got on the list a couple of days ago.

This will be my first Spyderco.

As many have stated, taking care of them is half the fun.

best regards -

mqqn
 
Ben Dover said:
Whenever I get a coated blade, I immediately remove the coating and polish the blade.


Coating a blade may look "cool" but it seriously degrades the blade's cutting ability. And a blade, LIKE ANY OTHER TOOL will never rust if it's properly maintained.
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The problem is sometimes proper maintenance is just not possible. Especially if you live in a climate like I do (90%+ Humidity and less than a mile from a saltwater bay). You can have rust pop up before you know it. Essentially I would have to carry bottle of oil and Flitz anywhere I took the M4 Military.

Now I'm not saying a DLC coating would be an excuse for "no maintenance", but it would buy the user time and make the maintenance schedule a little easier to keep up with. I couldn't care less how "cool" it looks. Spyderco could put a pink DLC coating on it and I'd still choose it over a satin finish.
 
I just ordered a 1 of 50 competitor's knife that finally puts CPM M4 in a decent geometry blade for cutting (the blade looks like the ATR as a hint). I had that competitor's 760 and while the coated area (as my new blade will be) never had corrosion issues, neither did the Krein reground part, which is done on a much rougher grit finish than any factory knife would be which should have made it corrode easier, but it never happened. I am considering having this 1 of 50 knife re heat treated to 64 plus RC, which means stripping it and probably doing a minor regrind on it as I hear the surfaces are rough under the coating. We'll see, but at least in my Northern California location humidity is low and M4 doesn't have problems if you wipe it down and oil it a bit. Living in 90% humidity near salt water isn't going to work well for you, but the great all around performance of CPM M4, especially as heat treated by Spyderco and Tom Krein (my Mule and Tom Krein customs at 62.5 RC are great performers) are tremendous all around performers with wonderful toughness, excellent edge retention, and the ability to take the finest edge of any steel I've tried to date. Also, as long as I don't have a freind handle my M4 knife then not wipe it down or another fellow hunter wash off my Mule after a skinning session and not dry it well then sheath it rust isn't an issue. A bit of oil and common sense go a long way in keeping your M4 rust free. Also, I feel a little staining isn't an issue to worry about, as my knives are users not safe queens. A collector obviously feels different, but the factory oil and dehumidifier in their safe should keep the blade like new.

Mike
 
Collecters: put some mineral oil or use Tuf Cloth on the blade and put it in the safe.

Users: put some mineral oil or use Tuf Cloth on the blade and put it in your pocket.

What's the problem again?

I live in one of the most hot and humid states in the USA and I've rarely had problems with rust [except on bead-blasted stainless steel... that stuff will find rust fast]. It's really not that hard. Going in salt water? Bring a different knife. Out on a deserted island for months-on-end without proper rust preventative? Thumb the side of your nose and rub the little bit of oil onto the blade [old timer's trick].

Then again, worrying about rust on a knife while stranded on a deserted island is probably the last thing on your mind...

I got on the list for 2 of these. Roger and Spyderco: thanx so much for having this knife made! :thumbup:
 
Lol it's been less than two weeks of waiting and i've already given up on caring about the G-10 or blade finish. I just really, really want my M4 millies. This is going to be one hell of a long wait.
 
gunmike1 said:
I just ordered a 1 of 50 competitor's knife that finally puts CPM M4 in a decent geometry blade for cutting (the blade looks like the ATR as a hint).
Mike
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Shhhh! :p

I ordered one too -- for M4 the price is right. I had the original version for a while and it's a very nice knife. The blade was ground thinner at the edge than any other knife I've had from that brand. I trust the lock too.

But I'm going to keep the brand secret to avoid a brand-preference flame war. ;)
 
This combination is almost too good to be true. I sent an e-mail to get on the list as soon as I saw the thread. How could you improve upon a knife like this?

TC
 
Hondo.3 said:
This combination is almost too good to be true. I sent an e-mail to get on the list as soon as I saw the thread. How could you improve upon a knife like this?

TC
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Which knife? :D I could think of a few things...prefer two-tone for the competitor knife...would prefer all-Ti for the Military...but these are nits, for sure.
 
I asked Roger around Thanksgiving time and he said he lost count...hehe. Guess he's swamped. He did mention that he got close to 400 orders in less than a week so its probably getting pretty close to the bottom of the barrel if not already.
 
distorted said:
I asked Roger around Thanksgiving time and he said he lost count...hehe. Guess he's swamped. He did mention that he got close to 400 orders in less than a week so its probably getting pretty close to the bottom of the barrel if not already.
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Thanks.:thumbup:
 
KeithAM said:
Shhhh! :p

I ordered one too -- for M4 the price is right. I had the original version for a while and it's a very nice knife. The blade was ground thinner at the edge than any other knife I've had from that brand. I trust the lock too.

But I'm going to keep the brand secret to avoid a brand-preference flame war. ;)
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I have a standard version of that competitor's knife and the edge is .014" thick, very thin for a production folder with a blade it's size. I can only hope they keep the M4 version somewhere near that thin or else Tom Krein may need to do some regrinding magic. After having a previous M4 folder from that company I must say I like Spyderco's heat treat better, though I may have got a sortie from the other brand. Either way this CPM M4 Millie is a knife I'm looking forward to more than any in recent memory, even more than the Bradley M4. Luckily I'll have both the Bradley and Millie in a few months and be in Spyderco CPM M4 heaven. I also trust Spyderco much more for consistently putting cutting oriented geometry on it's blades.

Mike
 
gunmike1 said:
I have a standard version of that competitor's knife and the edge is .014" thick, very thin for a production folder with a blade it's size. I can only hope they keep the M4 version somewhere near that thin or else Tom Krein may need to do some regrinding magic. After having a previous M4 folder from that company I must say I like Spyderco's heat treat better, though I may have got a sortie from the other brand. Either way this CPM M4 Millie is a knife I'm looking forward to more than any in recent memory, even more than the Bradley M4. Luckily I'll have both the Bradley and Millie in a few months and be in Spyderco CPM M4 heaven. I also trust Spyderco much more for consistently putting cutting oriented geometry on it's blades.

Mike
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I may be on slightly thin ice here, but I also trust Spyderco more for getting the HT right. For example, my experiences with S30V and D2 between the two brands we're talking about has been much better with Spyderco.
 
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