MaxPower = "Buyer Beware"

glad you were able to sell it Brian. Now I hope you all remember this guy and dont do any business with him. Seems awful funny that he hasnt posted here in this thread for days. Guess he knows he's wrong.In a situation like this, it is the SELLER who should take the loss.
I've got a slightly similar situation right now. I traded knives with a BF friend in Tenn. and he's telling me about a nick in the handle that I wasnt aware of. I'm sure the knife left here mint in box, but I also KNOW that this guy wouldnt lie to me. So, I'll do what it takes to make it right. Whether it's just paying postage back to maker for refinishing or whatever it takes to keep him satisfied. I believe this is the way things should be done here at BF.
Besides, I dont want to end up on G,B,and U.
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PS-Spark, how bout letting us know if MaxPower changes his name on the forum to do business? I know you can do that.

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Dave (Phil.4:13)
I Can Do All Things Through Him Who Strengthens Me
 
Brian, how come I was never offered pizza?
With sausage please, next time. But no alcohol, mind you.
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Glad you were able to move the knife.
 
Welcome to the forums, Barry. It's a great place with a great group of people. Fortunately, the bad ones are very few & far between.

Lifter, I couldn't agree with you more. I've probably been involved in close to 100 knife deals, on & off the forums, in the last year or so. I must have missed a couple of things myself & made adjustments with 2 buyers. However, this is the first time that a description was so blatantly false. BTW, it appears that MaxPower may not have to change his name in order to continue doing business here. I see from the FS Forum that he just sold his Strider MT. Since his asking price was $260, he should be able to afford the $22, don't you think?

Nakano, you want sausage pizza the next time we do a deal, you got it! Please reconsider about the beer though. How else can I soften you up for the trading?
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Cheers,
Brian
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He who finishes with the most toys wins.
 
I've probably done a couple of dozen deals with forum members, mostly buying, a few trades, and a couple of sales. I know it is easy to get complacent with fellow forumites but I try to follow a few rules when I deal.
First, if I'm selling or trading any knife that is not NIB, which would include "nearly mint" or "hardly used" I make it clear that the other party may return it if unhappy. This would also apply to any unusual knife or a custom that a buyer may not be very familiar with. However if the knife is NIB I would be reluctant to take it back because the other party changed their mind or found a better price. A deal is a deal. Also, for any knife over $50, I ship insured priority mail and ask the other party to do the same. If I'm sending a knife, I consider it my responsibility until it arrives in the buyers hands. If its lost or damaged in transit thats my problem not the buyers. I expect sellers to treat me the same way. As a graduate of the moving and storage industry, I pride myself on my packing and always make sure the knife is well protected. These are simple rules but if followed would make trading on the forums a good experience for all involved.

phantom4

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I thought I'd bring this back to the top in honor of it's 1-week anniversary.
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This thread has the dubious honor of being the second most popular thread on all of BF last week. (It took a Mad Dog thread to beat it out.) It may not have gotten me what I feel I am entitled to, but it did serve to warn our community about dealing with MaxPower. (In case anyone is wondering, I haven't heard from him since last Friday night.)

The show of support expressed here is very gratifying. Thank you all again.

If you haven't already done so, please take a look at the Request For Discussion: Buying, Selling & Trading Guidelines discussion in the main forum and share your thoughts there. Although it is unlikely that having written guidelines would have helped one bit in this case, hopefully they will help smooth other transactions.

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Brian
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He who finishes with the most toys wins.

[This message has been edited by bcaffrey (edited 05-05-2000).]
 
Sorry I missed this thread.

Do the right thing Max from 15 years of experience the term Buyer Beware does not fit in with the knife community.

I refunded 500.00 recently to someone who had purchased some knives from me 4 months previously. (He had some financial concerns that popped up). Not that I am that wonderful it is just typical of what goes on.

This is the only industry I know of where a handshake seals the deal on an item that may take someone months to make. Trust me the weeds that grow in this community do not last long.



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save your breath Gus. He's obviously too selfish and dumb to care.
Brian gave him every way to do something right and honorable but he chose not to.

Brian, everytime he posts something for sale we should warn all buyers.
And this guy should have been banned, at least till he made it right.
 
And to think, I almost bought a knife from him (MaxPower)at about the same time.

No Way Jose!!!

saege
 
you had your chance to save face... formites are quick to help each other when it comes to our love of knives and protect our collective a$$'$ from getting ripped off! LOOKS LIKE YOU BURNED YOUR SELF!!
 
Well, I'm the one that bought the knife. I have to admit I felt a little guilty taking advantage of Brian's misfortune. He was kind enough to put my mind at ease about it, and even offered to send the knife before my check cleared. This knife is perfect for what I want to do with it, which is to have Jake Evans rehandle it with Stag scales, I'm sure he'll polish it up to MINT Condition. I know Brian worked on the sheath to make it more presentable, it doesn't concern me because I don't display or store my knives in sheaths. The difference in price, from what Brian sold it to me for and what a NIB would cost me paid for the Stag.

I will post pictures of the knife when Jake is finished. I hope in the meantime MP decides to do the right thing, and make Brian whole. Why? Because Brian is a stand up guy and deserves to be treated fairly. Second, because MP you have sorely hurt your reputation here, and for $22 you're coming off like a low life. Time to get real and do the right thing.

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Well Phil, I'm glad your dream knife will soon be reality. I'd much rather redo a knife like this than modify a mint piece.I think some red spacers between stag and guard etc will be a nice touch too. That will give it an even more custom look.
And Max, get a grip dude, playing silly games for a few bucks will come back to haunt you. Our knife community is the best thing that ever happened to us knife nuts, actions like yours will exclude you from all the fun.

Jake
 
Hey, I know a dog named Mad Max...seriously! irony or ironies
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You could put nacho cheese sauce on it...
 
I never checked here again because I just knew no one would chuck their reputation over a couple of sawbucks. I mean you're kidding me right, this joker chose a $22 hill to die on? Now that's truly funny.

Brian, to go to the effort of reselling the knife, and making a $22 peace/settlement offer, you are truly a gentleman. It shows by the remarks from your peers here as well. MaxPowerless, you on the other hand didn't even offer to do squat, except blame Brian. I've always believed it's better sometimes to be happy (and respected) than to be right. Lord knows it's the only way to be in a marriage.
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I say keep this sucker at the top of the heap until we hear back from Mr. Powerfart. Course it won't be long before he's under another handle, eh?

Brandon

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I've got the schizophrenic blues
No I don't
Yes I do...
 
Even though I counseled Maxpower to give a refund, in my eyes and others there a certain point when too much negative attention was given and your reputation is "semi-soiled". Not that I condone the actions of Docbart, or others, there's a certain point when one will always be remembered as that guy that ALMOST ripped someone off, so I think the mindset of those individuals is "screw it", my reputation will never be the same again and if I cave in to those demands then I'll look like someone that needed THAT much help to see the light. In any case, I'd like to read some replies to this notion.
 
paranoid, i made the same point already.
(see my post towards the bottom on page 2 this thread)

it's a moot point since this basically worked out for brian, but i think part of the etiquette in this forum should be to give the "defendant" more time to reflect and respond before a thread snowballs mad dog style.

someone with little character is even less motivated to do the right thing when there are 50 posts in a row slamming him. now he's thinking, "i'm screwed now anyway, may as well keep the money"

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I think if maxpower did the right thing when he was called on it things would be fine.I don't think the posting made about him would have hurt him(well its possible it might have cast a shadow).In anycase,I do agree that before a post is made trashing their reputation that you should exhaust the communication avenue first and maybe even ask Mike or Spark to intervine before posting a bad,ugly post,unless of course any delay in a warning post may result in other formite getting harshly screwed and there is no doubt that you got screwed nothing like well I mailed a check and the person didn't receive it and I had to cancel the check and it cost me 25.00 now blame the guy that didn't receive it.Can we say *** SCHMUCK***!
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Thats my very long two cents,Ralph

[This message has been edited by TOMBSTONE (edited 05-12-2000).]
 
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