You really do have to read the whole thread(GB&U). They often don't follow a straight line and if you miss one of the turns, you don't know what is really happening. Granted it can be a lot of reading on an active thread. and if I post early on in the thread I need to add a disclaimer, that it is based on what I have heard so far. Getting tired of egg on my face for trusting the OP at his word. Some spin a good tale, but that is all it is.