Medford Praetorian opinions.

[The Aflac Duck]

You're lecturing people about reading comprehension, yet you can't even figure out how to quote someone's post

 

[trevitrace]

Put the two sentences together and they don't oppose anything. It's called reading comprehension. Try it out.

You're lecturing people about reading comprehension, yet you can't even figure out how to quote someone's post

:thumbup:

 

[NJBillK]

NJ bill
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Put the two sentences together and they don't oppose anything. It's called reading comprehension. Try it out.

Ok, at your request, we will try out some "reading comprehension" and see how well you initially did...

I personally feel people that keep knives in safes are retarded.
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In the end it's whatever makes you happy....

Here we go again...

The people who do exactly what you suggest "Whatever makes them happy", can in fact be what also makes them "retarded" (first off, Very poor choice in words).
Evidenced by, if someone appreciates their knives by looking at them through museum glass held in a vacuum, is just fine by your second statement, but not by your first statement.

THIS is why I said they are in direct opposition.
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On topic, I am not a fan of 99%+ Medford designs, since I prefer knives that have the geometry that promotes better functionality than every Medford (that I have seen) offers.

If I want to spend the money on a Folding heavier duty knife, it would be a custom in 3v, Cruwear, pd1, et al and have it ffg to .030-.040 bte. I like higher end alloys in a knife to cut things, and to be able to touch it up on a job site if needed.

 

[bengler]

I personally feel people that keep knives in safes are retarded. I buy them to use, not look at. To each his own. Knives are pretty simple tools. Timascus and all the other bullshit like bearings and shit are just that. Goofy shit. It'd be hard to compare Medford knives to one of these "fancy" knives your used to collecting because that would require someone to actually use them. God forbid they actually come out of the safe and be tested. But we all know those knives aren't actually meant to be used or purposeful. They are in fact, doing exactly what they were meant for, looking cool on a shelf or being pulled out of a safe. In the end it's whatever makes you happy....

I keep all my knives that I'm not currently carrying in a safe. My line of thinking was if I had a fire in the house or some asshole thief, my knives would be safe. Thank you for pointing out how retarded I am and pissing off the entire forum. Your getting off to a great start.

 

[Mick_1KRR]

Medfords...they actually make me laugh. Ugliest most ridiculously over priced piece of couch commando jewelry every created. Hey if you can't cut anything with it, you can always use it as a boat anchor. Not only are they clown knives, i personally think Medford himself is an absolute idiot, go watch some videos on youtube, the guy must be high or something.

 

[Topcatpt]

I owned a praetorian g for awhile. Overall build quality was good. It had some of the worst lock stick I have ever had on the knife, it did break in eventually but man was it brutal till it did. It did come very sharp out the box but like others have said the grind isn't optimal for cutting. Someone said it flies through cardboard or something like that, I did not have this experience, mine was more cut great for the 3/4 of a inch that it was hollow ground, then it just wedged in the cardboard. I did think the knife looked pretty cool. But I prefer a knife that slices better and didn't really care for the feel in hand. Like someone said its really blade heavy and if there is ever a group of knives that called for some contouring it would be medfords. I only owned a praetorian but I have handled a lot of their other knives at shows and from friends. The huge ti versions all feel like your holding on to a mini brick to me. Also the only design I really thought eye appealing was the praetorian but that's just my taste. I do think they are pretty expensive for what you get. Also I cant stand not being able to take apart a knife and voiding warranty. Companies like spyderco say it but will still fix your knife and it isn't expensive usually if they make you pay. But from what Medford says you could be paying quite a premium for a fix if you have something happen. Greg Medford is like stiffler from American pie to me though kinda douche annoying guy but for some reason I still kinda like him. In any case if you like it buy it try it out. Your money do with it what will make you happy. For me they don't fit the bill and I don't recommend them to people for that reason but that's just me.

 

[symphonyincminor]

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[deerslap]

This is a thread gone astray. But pretty much like all forums there's people that just feel need to express their opinions without it having anything to do with the original question posted. A person will ask about a particular product and immediately those folks that dislike it for some given reason chime in with trash comments that contribute nothing. Mostly those that have never used the product. I don't understand it. Why type if you never used the product? Why waste the peoples time. It has nothing to do with the original post. Tells me there's a lot of lonely people out there that have no one to talk to and when they do express themselves is evident why they have no one to talk to.
I do have a Medford TFF1. D2 blade. I received in a trade, my first. Found it appealing as soon as I put my hands on it. Large yes, different design yes but so was the AR rifle compared to the M14. I started carrying it each day to get use to it and found its incredibly comfortable in my pockets, front, back and on the side. I wear 5-11 style pants of all makes and it works for me. Pockets and carry options. I used the Medford in the woods this past deer season and I was incredibly pleased at how it performed. I cleared fields of fire for my tree stand position and this consisted of cutting down trees with a 8" circumference and smaller, not just one but many. For curiosity I skinned a deer with it. It worked just fine, are their better knives for that? Sure there is but it worked just fine. Hot water and it cleaned up wonderfully. Chores around the camp it shined. Food prep it worked just fine, I'm at camp not on a cooking show. Slicing open boxes of supplies it shined. I used the cutting edge I did not stab the knife into the boxes and try to pull through. Whittling by the fire worked like a champ and kept its edge after cutting on oak and maple. I even used it to dig and widen the fire pit in the frozen earth and it worked great. I touched up the edge each day or every other day if I remembered on ceramic sticks.
I guess what I'm saying is this knife works for my intended use and worked extremely well. I used many different knives in Iraq and Afghanistan and I know from real world experience this knife would of been wonderful in those environments. I've heard the same criticisms of Strider knives and I'm hear to tell you I love my Striders. My SnG in PD1 guts and skins deer wonderfully, clears lanes of fire. I've whittled small wooden animals with it to test out small detailed work and just to see if I could, I cut down a 14" circumference maple tree and its sharpens up easily and holds a super edge. It was worth every bit of the $600 I spent on it! People say its an over built knife, too big. Well it works for me incredibly well.
Get the Praetorian if that's what you like, only you know your needs. Hard use knives, hell yes, their hard use just like Striders and you can also do soft use with them as well. I've done it and have first hand experience with doing these tasks with a lot of different blades. I've often used a $40 KA-BAR in Jungles around the world and got the job done but sure would of rather had a Medford or Strider in my pocket with premium steel.
I'm sure you'll be happy with it and take time to get use to it, get to know it and soon it'll be your good buddy. Soon I'll have an Arktika with upgrades. Expensive knife, hell yes but so is that ring on your wife's hand (if your married) and what does that ring do? Makes mama happy sure but nothing else. I'm sure you get my point.

 

[evilgreg]

Some necromancer resurrected a Medford thread I didn't comment in before it died? Time to chime in, as someone who owns and sort-of-doesn't-hate a Medford knife (albeit one of their smaller ones, where small is a relative thing):

MKT knives suck. They're too heavy, too bulky, too thick to cut well, and according to the owner they will spontaneously combust if you disassemble them or lube them or even look at them funny.

That said, the goofy pocket-brick 187 RMP I own has grown on me and I do carry it on occasion. It's stupid, but somehow the old lizard-brain likes it. It keys into some caveman-level "Og have club" sort of vibe.

 

[NJBillK]

I don't understand how some people will say that (to paraphrase), if you don't have one, don't comment.

Due to my experience with knives I can say this.
Geometry cuts.

Due to that alone I can say that a blade in 1/8" stock that is flat ground to .025 BTE will Very Likely out slice a Saber ground blade of 1/4" blade thickness and .040+ BTE, especially in deeper material (cardboard, et al)...

To prove my point that I can speak to the performance of a knife that I haven't owned, I posit the following (off-topic) question:
Is a BMW M5 or a Bugatti faster to 100mph than a Dodge Ram or Ford F250?

Both classifications of vehicles are built to perform, but at different tasks...
The same can be said for a sledgehammer and a hatchet. Both can process firewood, but one is more efficient.
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On topic, I like my knives to cut, primarily slicing cuts. Due to that I prefer a knife that can offer that performance t a lower price point.

 

[deerslap]

Kind of get what your saying. But if I should ask, hey gang I'm thinking about buying a Ford F150 why would you comment on how terrible they are when all you've driven is a Chevy?

Geometry? A straight razor cuts like a laser if its sharpened properly but its worthless in the woods, garden, construction site or war zone, unless you need a shave.

The guy wanted to know about a Praetorian, seems to me that those people that actually own and carry one or the Makers other like products would be the most qualified to chime in.

My big over built knives sure work for me, carry easy and cut superbly. From flesh to hardwoods and yes everyone even the dreaded cardboard monsters that appear as boxes. Some guys prefer to carry full size 1911s some guys can only handle mouse guns but to each their own and the task at hand they need it for. They all go boom but how loud do you want that boom as all knives cut. Now if he asked hey everyone I'm thinking about buying a Praetorian as a handy little letter opener, then I imagine people could set him straight with the obvious.

But I guess any comments get the conversation going. In the end I hope the original poster got their question answered.

 

[Ultrasport05]

There is always so much hate in these Medford threads. I just dont get it. If you dont like the man or his knives then that doesnt mean other people shouldn't either. I think Spydercos are the ugliest knives i have ever seen and will never own one. That is my opinion and if somebody loves Spyderco then that is just fine with me. Same goes for Chris Reeve Knives. They just dont do anything for me. Does that make them inferior in anyway just because i dont like them? Not in anyway. If somebody owns a CRK and loves it, then thats all that matters.

I have owned three Medfords and am eyeing another one. Did they all cut out of the box? Why yes, yes they did. They didnt cut quite the way i wanted them to so I had them resharpened/re-profiled and now they blast through cardboard and every other EDC tasks i have thrown at them. This includes a Praetorian Stealth and a Colonial. Both cut cardboard as well as my Hoback Kwaiback.

Greg has been very forth coming about his edges and what they are designed to do. I knew this when i bought them. If anybody is surprised that a Medford doesnt slice as well as a Rockstead, Opinel, or something along those lines then Id say thats on them. He has said many times that they are purpose built tools and being able to slice like a laser isnt at the top of the priories list.

I had a Benchmade that sliced like crazy on my last deployment and broke the thin blade while i was over there. I will never take a thin blade geared towards slicing with me again.

Could i carry a blade that slices better than a Praetorian? Absolutely. That isnt why i carry and love the knife. Greg said in one of his videos that the Praetorian was his F' You knife and that how i look at it. I carry it because i can. I like it and that is enough for me.

 

[evilgreg]

Greg has been very forth coming about his edges and what they are designed to do.

Apparently, based on the letter he included with mine, they aren't designed to be lubricated, taken apart, modified, or even looked at directly (it hurts their precious feelings).

 

[Ultrasport05]

Apparently, based on the letter he included with mine, they aren't designed to be lubricated, taken apart, modified, or even looked at directly (it hurts their precious feelings).

Seems like you have more of a problem with Greg and his policies than the knife itself. That is another argument.

I understand why he has these policies, thought i dont agree with all of them.

If his policies bother you and take away from the experience then sell the knife.

 

[evilgreg]

Seems like you have more of a problem with Greg and his policies than the knife itself.

I can't have issues with both his policies and his knives? As far as I can tell he's an idiot-slash-stooge, and his knives are also too thick, too heavy and they don't cut well for many common cutting tasks.

That said, I kind of like mine. It's taken a while but it eventually grew on me. It's sort the lovable idiot in my knife collection. Sure it doesn't cut well and it takes up way too much pocket space, but it just feels silly in hand, in a good way.

I think if people like them they should buy them. Just don't pretend they're good cutting tools. Pry bar? Maybe. Brick? For sure. Paper weight? Definitely. Cutting tool? lol

 

[Insipid Moniker]

I can't have issues with both his policies and his knives? As far as I can tell he's an idiot-slash-stooge, and his knives are also too thick, too heavy and they don't cut well for many common cutting tasks.

That said, I kind of like mine. It's taken a while but it eventually grew on me. It's sort the lovable idiot in my knife collection. Sure it doesn't cut well and it takes up way too much pocket space, but it just feels silly in hand, in a good way.

I think if people like them they should buy them. Just don't pretend they're good cutting tools. Pry bar? Maybe. Brick? For sure. Paper weight? Definitely. Cutting tool? lol

Yup. And if something doesn't cut well it's really a struggle for me to call it a good knife. I know everyone's needs are different, and some absolutely need additional toughness, but there's a whole lot of room to maneuver between my ultraslim slicers and the things produced by MK&T.

 

[Ultrasport05]

From that statement if sounded to me like you had more issues with the man but yes you can absolutely have issues with both.

What sort of cutting tasks does your blade have issues with? Im not trying to be argumentative, I am genuinely curious. I have zero issues cutting anything that i have tried to cut with both my Praetorian and Colonial. This was all after i had it reprofiled. I push mine through thick and thin cardboard, open mail, cut paracord, cut detcord, slice wrapping paper, cut thick automotive fuel hose, etc... with mine. Are they sometimes better tools for the job...absolutely but the Medfords do cut. Saying they dont cut is far too vague of a statement. They may not cut as well as other blades , that does not mean they are incapable of cutting.

 

[The Aflac Duck]

I handled a bunch of Medfords recently. The locks were sticky, the pivot action was slow and a couple felt kinda gritty, and everything about the ergonomics are just too aggressive for me.

Fit and finish was unacceptable for a knife of that price, literally a slab of g10 and ti with a big thick blade stuff between it, like a big ol' tactical sandwich. No pocketing inside the ti handle, and all the machining was pretty "loose" compared to other knives in that price range. An $850 Arktika is a joke compared to an $850 Rockstead Chi or Higo. I couldn't get over how clumsy they felt in my hand.

The flipper tab on the 187 was like the spout of a teapot, just weird. And the flipping action felt like the pivot was wooden. The blade just flopped out like a dead fish.

And the geometry, oh boy... Yes, they're thick, obviously, but the grind is so shallow on the Praetorian it's like Greg grinds them with a Dremel, blindfolded, with one hand, after a few stiff drinks.

They are nothing more than another flavor of tacticool.
So yeah, that's my opinion.

 

[evilgreg]

I handled a bunch of Medfords recently. The locks were sticky, the pivot action was slow and a couple felt kinda gritty, and everything about the ergonomics are just too aggressive for me.

Fit and finish was unacceptable for a knife of that price, literally a slab of g10 and ti with a big thick blade stuff between it, like a big ol' tactical sandwich. No pocketing inside the ti handle, and all the machining was pretty "loose" compared to other knives in that price range. An $850 Arktika is a joke compared to an $850 Rockstead Chi or Higo. I couldn't get over how clumsy they felt in my hand.

The flipper tab on the 187 was like the spout of a teapot, just weird. And the flipping action felt like the pivot was wooden. The blade just flopped out like a dead fish.

And the geometry, oh boy... Yes, they're thick, obviously, but the grind is so shallow on the Praetorian it's like Greg grinds them with a Dremel, blindfolded, with one hand, after a few stiff drinks.

They are nothing more than another flavor of tacticool.
So yeah, that's my opinion.

Blues, if you keep bottling up your feelings you're going to explode one day. You really need to quit beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel.

Also, I agree with you completely.

 

[Krav]

I personally feel people that keep knives in safes are retarded. I buy them to use, not look at. To each his own. Knives are pretty simple tools. Timascus and all the other bullshit like bearings and shit are just that. Goofy shit. It'd be hard to compare Medford knives to one of these "fancy" knives your used to collecting because that would require someone to actually use them. God forbid they actually come out of the safe and be tested. But we all know those knives aren't actually meant to be used or purposeful. They are in fact, doing exactly what they were meant for, looking cool on a shelf or being pulled out of a safe. In the end it's whatever makes you happy....

Try thinking out of the box. I own a liberty safe and it's filled with guns, knives, and ammo. I keep this stuff in a safe so it stays out of people's hands I don't want them to be in. Like, criminals, teanage daughter and friends and my girlfriend.
I keep my glock 26 in the safe when it's not on my person. I keep the knives in the safe that aren't on my person. I rotate about 5 knives out at a time, keep the ones not using in the safe.

I bought a Medford praetorian 3v G/T vulacan finish for myself for Christmas. It's just a touch thicker than a paramilitary, it push cuts phone book paper. It has never been sharpened, that's the way Greg sharpened it. Fit n finish is excellent and the tolerances are amazing.

I use knives that best suit the activities I'm doing. I try to have fun with this, it's like wearing shoes or boots. I'm not going to wear my hiking boots tonight at a New Year's Eve party, I wear dress shoes. I just have fun with the variety and Greg makes a great knife, looking forward to more medfords.