Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

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Boats said:
I think the rather uniform Striderette resistance to what appears to be the greater truth--namely that Mick is far more fraud than substance--stems from their own stubborness.

Most of the more colorful Strider supporters make various claims that they've met the man and that is enough for them. Something about him doesn't peg their personal bullshit meters. Maybe somewhere down deep they're reluctant to admit they've been taken in by his false persona.

People never like to admit that they've been conned, or that they could be conned.

It's that very reaction that con-men thrive upon.
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BOATS, I did not buy my first Strider because of Mick, or any marketing, I just saw an AR one day and could not believe what a great knife it was. I bought it. I had no idea who Mick even was. I just saw the best damn knife I had ever seen. I bought more Striders as time went on. I could not believe how incredible the SMF was, It is one of the greatest folders ever built. IMHO it is the greatest folder ever built.
I have never met Mick. I do consider the man to be one of the greatest knife makers alive. He has Talent that most could only dream of. The man is a knife genius.

I see a bunch of cut and paste crap. If I spent my life trying to ruin other people on the internet, I think I would just be a waste of skin.



This whole thread is just a character assissination.

You people are barbarian. You literally remind me of whats wrong with the world.
 
I don't understand the bias against the cut and paste stuff being presented here or anywhere else. The stuff is already out there what diff does it make if someone put it all in one place for easier reference? For that matter what about the substance of it specifically is 'crap?'

Lastly, no one is saying the knives are bad, good or inbetween by Strider, or that Mick is not incredibly talented. Hell he blows everyone away. Even seasoned knife makers with more years of knifemaking under their belt stand back at this guys work in awe. That isn't the issue or the topic anymore than the knives were in that other thread on Cold Steel. It is about a man in both cases and more specifically actions the man took himself, words the man said himself and claims made and nothing about the products.

STR
 
You can put me in the group for whom most of this is new. Most informative, to say the least. Unbelievable the lengths to which some will go in defense of the indefensible. :mad:

Roger
 
WORKER#9 said:
BOATS, I did not buy my first Strider because of Mick, or any marketing, I just saw an AR one day and could not believe what a great knife it was. I bought it. I had no idea who Mick even was. I just saw the best damn knife I had ever seen. I bought more Striders as time went on. I could not believe how incredible the SMF was, It is one of the greatest folders ever built. IMHO it is the greatest folder ever built.
I have never met Mick. I do consider the man to be one of the greatest knife makers alive. He has Talent that most could only dream of. The man is a knife genius.
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As I have said several times in this thread, nobody -- including Spark -- has, thusfar in this thread said anything derogatory about Strider knives. By extension, nobody has said anything derogatory about Mike Strider's skill as a knife designer and maker. His knives are widely acknowledged as well-designed and well-made. Nobody in this thread has said otherwise.

That's why I honestly think that clearing this matter up will not hurt his reputation or his business as a knifemaker.
 
STR said:
I don't understand the bias against the cut and paste stuff being presented here or anywhere else. The stuff is already out there what diff does it make if someone put it all in one place for easier reference? For that matter what about the substance of it specifically is 'crap?'

Lastly, no one is saying the knives are bad, good or inbetween by Strider, or that Mick is not incredibly talented. Hell he blows everyone away. Even seasoned knife makers with more years of knifemaking under their belt stand back at this guys work in awe. That isn't the issue or the topic anymore than the knives were in that other thread on Cold Steel. It is about a man in both cases and more specifically actions the man took himself, words the man said himself and claims made and nothing about the products.

STR
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It is the issue, he's so good, that people hate him. That hate turns into actions and here we are. One of the greatest knife makers who ever lived is crucified. I feel like I am in the coliseum in Early Rome and we just caught us a Christian, so lets feed him to the lions.
 
Gollnick said:
As I have said several times in this thread, nobody -- including Spark -- has, thusfar in this thread said anything derogatory about Strider knives. By extension, nobody has said anything derogatory about Mike Strider's skill as a knife designer and maker. His knives are widely acknowledged as well-designed and well-made. Nobody in this thread has said otherwise.

That's why I honestly think that clearing this matter up will not hurt his reputation or his business as a knifemaker.
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No one has said anything derogatory about Strider Knives. NO just about the owner, How in GODS name is that different???

I wasn't born yesterday.

This is a personal attack on the man and his company.

It is beyond low.
 
WORKER#9 said:
It is the issue, he's so good, that people hate him. That hate turns into actions and here we are. One of the greatest knife makers who ever lived is crucified. I feel like I am in the coliseum in Early Rome and we just caught us a Christian, so lets feed him to the lions.
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I highly doubt that is why people strongly dislike him :rolleyes: . The reason people do not like him is because he is a pathological liar. That is simply it.
 
Quote: "It is the issue, he's so good, that people hate him. That hate turns into actions and here we are. One of the greatest knife makers who ever lived is crucified. I feel like I am in the coliseum in Early Rome and we just caught us a Christian, so lets feed him to the lions."

WTF!?!?!?!? What a drama queen!!! :jerkit: :jerkit: :jerkit:
 
:thumbdn: I'm not sure what "Spark's" agenda is and I don't much care. What I do know, is that I signed up on this Forum to participate in discussions about knives and blademaking. This has degraded into a worthless Forum as far as I am concerned.

I find it appalling that "Spark" can use his Forum to attempt to destroy another individual and his reputation.

I'm still new to the whole area of knife collecting but I can tell you that I own 5 of Mick Strider's knives. They are very, very well-made. I have never met Mick but have had several email correspondences with him and I consider him to be a very good man. I also own some very expensive, custom blades. Mick's blades are right up there with the best of them in terms of user confidence.

I feel sorry for you, Spark. This is not a topic worth pursuing in my opinion.
 
Bohica2u said:
It is the issue, he's so good, that people hate him. That hate turns into actions and here we are. One of the greatest knife makers who ever lived is crucified. I feel like I am in the coliseum in Early Rome and we just caught us a Christian, so lets feed him to the lions.

WTF!?!?!?!? What a drama queen!!! :jerkit: :jerkit: :jerkit:
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Is that all you got???
 
I don't think Mick's business has suffered in the least from this. He is still cranking out orders he can barely keep up with and that never changed really. From what I understand his following is as large as ever. Do I need to point out again that he still has a lot of vets and war hero friends that hang at his booth at every show? Which is why I keep saying that this is still ground to be tread delicately. There has to be something we are missing for good men in the know to be brothers in arms with him after this news came out back when it first hit the net. Also, its not possible to get a fair trial in the media or on the public venues of anykind. As I said before its a fruitless effort regardless of the good justifications anyone has for bringing it up.

Believe me, Mick could care less as far as the business aspect goes though. My guess? He's laughing all the way to the bank everyday. I don't think most people really care about this stuff to be honest. They just recognize the enormous talent of a bright shining star and a good product when they seen it and hold it.

STR
 
WORKER#9 said:
It is the issue, he's so good, that people hate him. That hate turns into actions and here we are. One of the greatest knife makers who ever lived is crucified. I feel like I am in the coliseum in Early Rome and we just caught us a Christian, so lets feed him to the lions.
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Well, we are certainly be treated to the matinee melodrama.:rolleyes:

I have nothing against the products, though I daresay that they do not speak to my non-tactical tastes.

I doubt they'd command the premium they do without the mystique purposely built around the Strider character over the years, the gross inaccuracies of which have never been publically corrected.

Love the sinner, hate the sin. If Mick would just come clean about his more obvious post-Army outright lies of commission, omission, and other, I'd never say a disparaging word about him again unless he resumed his fantasy life.

I have no stake in this other than bringing a rabid fox, out of tricks, to ground.
 
northgull said:
:thumbdn: I'm not sure what "Spark's" agenda is and I don't much care. What I do know, is that I signed up on this Forum to participate in discussions about knives and blademaking. This has degraded into a worthless Forum as far as I am concerned.

I find it appalling that "Spark" can use his Forum to attempt to destroy another individual and his reputation.


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What reputation? His rep as a super spook?
 
If Mick would just come clean about his more obvious post-Army outright lies of commission, omission, and other, I'd never say a disparaging word about him again unless he resumed his fantasy life.
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Ok lets suppose that he did that. Do you really believe for one second that this would end there? I certainly don't.
STR
 
Boats said:
Well, we are certainly be treated to the matinee melodrama.:rolleyes:

I have nothing against the products, though I daresay that they do not speak to my non-tactical tastes.

I doubt they'd command the premium they do without the mystique purposely built around the Strider character over the years, the gross inaccuracies of which have never been publically corrected.

Love the sinner, hate the sin. If Mick would just come clean about his more obvious post-Army outright lies of commission, omission, and other, I'd never say a disparaging word about him again unless he resumed his fantasy life.

I have no stake in this other than bringing a rabid fox, out of tricks, to ground.
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Dude, I think your on retainer for cold steel. So how much you getting paid for this farce?
 
STR said:
I don't think Mick's business has suffered in the least from this.
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I don't either. In fact, I probably won't go out and buy one but I will at least take a look at them next time I see them at a knife show. I've never owned or even handled a Strider. VERY interesting information, that I previously had not known about Mick, but only because I have not been interested or even cared in the past to look into him or his past. The fact that this thread has gotten so much attention in the past few days is the only reason that I stopped in. I can say that I did see a Strider table at Blade West last time, and did not stop to look. Next time I will. There were some interesting looking characters hanging around that table, but I won't let them scare me off next time ... :D (I still won't buy one, just want to look at them and see what the fuss is about...)
 
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