Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

[Michelle]

That is interesting since the charge says that a firearm was DISCHARGED during the carjacking.

This is the second time you have stated this. I asked you last time, which you chose to ignore, so I am asking you again.

Where is your documentation (certified of course) that states this?

Even the people who are in possession of the court papers (and hate Strider) have NEVER stated the above.... never even tried to claim it. And boy-howdy they would have if they could have.

Will there be repercussions from this thread?.....I think so.

I think so too. But I'm thinking in a much different way than you are.


m1

 

[wolfmann601]

No, I am not emailing and with such a pleasent personality and poor reading comprehension skills, I'm done with you. Since you're telling us that feds don't prosecute car jacking, perhaps you can go tell Mick that since he plead guilty to it and spent 5 years in prison for it. Bye

My poor reading comprehensive skills, oh of course.

Where did I say Feds DO NOT prosecute car Jackings? No where.

I asked why the Feds would have gotten involved IF this were just a stolen vehicle case as stated by someone else.

And my pleasant personality. You don't know me and there are very few here that would agree with you that I am not pleasant.

Because I don't agree with you I am not a nice guy? You are starting to sound like a witch hunter, am I next?

 

[wolfmann601]

From the net:

President George Bush signed the act into law on October 25, 1992. The statute's provision regarding car-jacking was as follows:

Whoever, possessing a firearm, as defined in section 921 of this title, takes a motor vehicle that has been transported, shipped or received in interstate or foreign commerce from the person or presence of another by force and violence or by intimidation, or attempts to do so, shall—1) be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 15 years, or both. 2) If serious bodily injury … results, be fined under this title or be imprisoned not more than 25 years, or both, and 3) if death results, be fined under this title or imprisoned for any number of years up to life, or both.

And therefore every armed carjacking in California goes to the Fed court and never the State court and those convicted go to Fed prison and never State prison?

This is an honest question, where I come from armed car jackings are rare.

 

[Boats]

From the net:

President George Bush signed the act into law on October 25, 1992. The statute's provision regarding car-jacking was as follows:

Whoever, possessing a firearm, as defined in section 921 of this title, takes a motor vehicle that has been transported, shipped or received in interstate or foreign commerce from the person or presence of another by force and violence or by intimidation, or attempts to do so, shall—1) be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 15 years, or both. 2) If serious bodily injury … results, be fined under this title or be imprisoned not more than 25 years, or both, and 3) if death results, be fined under this title or imprisoned for any number of years up to life, or both.

That's amusing. It seems that we are now supposed to believe that a possible 15 year maximum sentence was going to be plead down to one year without pay in an undefined capacity in Somalia. That's some great lawyering that "fell through."

Let's recap this sorry chapter of the story.

1. Rolling with a hard crew that rats him out.
2. Always carrying a heater.
3. Doesn't do homework on a newly enhanced crime.
4. Does a FTF car theft.
5. Doesn't lawyer up and zip it.
6. Brags to the cops about always carrying a gat.
7. Is so good at what he does, Federal Public Defenders was co-counsel on the case.

Yep, sounds like someone you'd want leading others into harm's way.

 

[Spark]

This is the second time you have stated this. I asked you last time, which you chose to ignore, so I am asking you again.

Where is your documentation (certified of course) that states this?

Even the people who are in possession of the court papers (and hate Strider) have NEVER stated the above.... never even tried to claim it. And boy-howdy they would have if they could have.

Indeed, I don't see anywhere where it says a firearm was discharged. That said, I find it incredibly difficult to believe a $1,000,000 bond was issued for just locking the doors and driving off. That's just me though.

 

[Boats]

Indeed, I don't see anywhere where it says a firearm was discharged. That said, I find it incredibly difficult to believe a $1,000,000 bond was issued for just locking the doors and driving off. That's just me though.

I'm surprised they offered a hardcore, alias using, international man of mystery any shot at bond at all.

Then again, they took a real risk holding him in lieu of bond. Everyone knows that only the Lewisburg PA FedPen can hold a hardcore guy like Mick Strider.

 

[borebrush]

Again... You take a state renowned for his feverish anti gun pursuits as though they are infallible.

Seriously. I cannot believe the hype here. You are so adamant in your hatred of Mick that you will quote whoever whenever that it will suit you. AGAIN, your entire argument is based off of the assumption that California is a bastion of law enforcement and due process.

About SOE, I said they shared a shop space. You are fucking drooling on your self over the thought that you have MORE DIRT on this. You are a son of a bitch. Thats all it comes down too. You disregard my entire statement because you got three words out of it that suit you. YOU FUCKING TROLL. I have nothing else to say to you. (now time for some arrogant response from a fucking pogue, about how the Badlander knuckle dragger can't hang and resorts to insults and profanity... lets hear it.. come on... show me your deft eloquence, give me what for.) Fuckin internet Cowboy. This place is a fucking tool box.

 

[WORKER#9]

Oh, so because it's cut and paste, it's not true? I'm going to give you one last chance.

Reconcile Mick Strider claiming to be a combat veteran, his admitting he isn't in a lawsuit settlement, and his refusal to provide something so simple as an unredacted DD214 to show that he's entitled to that award.

If you refuse to answer this, I'm going to just flat out assume you are here to do nothing more than troll up this thread and distract from the issue, and will ask you to leave since you obviously have nothing to contribute.

Pages and pages of name calling. Thats how this thread started and thats how it's been since.

According to you no one has added anything, to prove or disprove, in this whole thread, but you. Just page after page of name calling. So why not end it yourself. I am sure it seemed like good idea at the time. You started it, at this point I know only you can end it.

If I get asked to leave it is because I did not support you. If I get asked to leave it only strengthens my position.

I ask that you do the right thing. LOCK THIS THREAD.

Turn off the lights on this one. It is a sad state of affairs, when this is what knife forums are used for. Don't worry I won't be coming back anyway. I bathed in shit for days, defending my beliefs. It's time to clean myself up.

It's time for me to do the right thing.

Goodbye.

 

[Spark]

Again... You take a state renowned for his feverish anti gun pursuits as though they are infallible.

I fail to see your argument... are you saying that because California is anti-gun, Mick Strider was right to steal a car?

Seriously. I cannot believe the hype here. You are so adamant in your hatred of Mick that you will quote whoever whenever that it will suit you. AGAIN, your entire argument is based off of the assumption that California is a bastion of law enforcement and due process.

Um, Mick Strider was tried by the Federal Government, not California. Are you saying the the government had it in for him? Please, for the love of God, provide me with a single SHRED of evidence that his claims hold water. Anything, other than his own testimony.

About SOE, I said they shared a shop space. You are fucking drooling on your self over the thought that you have MORE DIRT on this.

With friends like you, hell, why do I even bother? You make my arguments for me.

You are a son of a bitch. Thats all it comes down too. You disregard my entire statement because you got three words out of it that suit you. YOU FUCKING TROLL. I have nothing else to say to you. (now time for some arrogant response from a fucking pogue, about how the Badlander knuckle dragger can't hang and resorts to insults and profanity... lets hear it.. come on... show me your deft eloquence, give me what for.) Fuckin internet Cowboy. This place is a fucking tool box.

On the contrary, you are the troll. I've been nothing but polite, well reasoned, and backed up every one of my statements I've made with appropriate citations and reasoning. You, on the other hand, are a hot-tempered individual who seems to be willing to ignore court documents to believe your lying friend.

 

[Gollnick]

. You are fucking drooling on your self...

You are a son of a bitch. ...

...

YOU FUCKING TROLL.

...

Fuckin internet Cowboy.

...

This place is a fucking tool box.

Let's see if we can avoid the insults and profanity. Talk about the issues and not each other. Profanity and name-calling does not enhance the credibility of you or your arguments.

 

[Bohica2u]

A sad attempt to try and derail the thread or get it locked.

>>>> "This place is a ........ Toolbox"

Then WTF are you doing here? You are welcome to come over here to discuss the issues, but if you hate it that bad..... go back to your troll hole.

By the way; did Mick send you over here to do his dirty work? Did he promise you a Strider knife? :thumbdn:

 

[Boats]

Let's not go second-guessing anyone's motives. That's their game and they are more practiced at it.

 

[Bohica2u]

Another one:

www.pbase.com/gary777/buck_strider_tarani_knife

Model 882 Buck Strider Tarani SBT Police Utility knife.

Buck Knives, Strider series is a collaboration between Buck Knives, Mick Strider and Duane Dwyer (former members of United States Special Operations Command-SOCOM). Buck Striders are solid through and through, from the high tech ATS-34 stainless steel blades (custom heat treated by Paul Bos) to the almost indestructible G-10 handles.


If Mick's past is sooooooooooooo secret, he sure as hell likes to tell everyone!

 

[jerrinfla]

Now I am really confused. If there was no Carjacking involved, just a guy sliding over the console and driving away why the Federal Charges? I have chased stolen vehicles into another State and there were times the actor was armed. Not once did the Feds get involved, heck they did not give a shiit. They would have laughed and made me the brunt of their jokes had I taken a guy who stole a car (armed or not) intol another State before the US District Court. They all generally got reduced in State Court with alot less than five years.

What am I missing? Once someone can answer that I will go watch soap Operas. They don't involve reading!!!!

Furthermore, when you were writing up complaint reports on people you arrested, did you ever add a charge of possession of a weapon based solely on the statements of the person arrested?
Not likely, I'd wager ......

 

[hardheart]

let's cut borebrush some slack, he used to look high speed, and now carries a SAG card. "I'm not n operator, but I play one on TV."

there's really no way to expect him to oppose what Strider does, he does the same thing. it's ok, we understand

 

[FRANKeCAST]

Another one:

www.pbase.com/gary777/buck_strider_tarani_knife

Model 882 Buck Strider Tarani SBT Police Utility knife.

Buck Knives, Strider series is a collaboration between Buck Knives, Mick Strider and Duane Dwyer (former members of United States Special Operations Command-SOCOM). Buck Striders are solid through and through, from the high tech ATS-34 stainless steel blades (custom heat treated by Paul Bos) to the almost indestructible G-10 handles.


If Mick's past is sooooooooooooo secret, he sure as hell likes to tell everyone!

I'm really trying not to get into this Knife Industry Political BULLSHIT...

If Mick was a part of 2/75th Ranger Battalion and trained with them for 2 seconds,2 hours,2 days,or 2 years. He has the rite to say he has a Special Operations Background.

The 2-75th Ranger Battalion is a Special Operations Force.

 

[Pete1977]

I too would like to know why was mick burger/strider sentenced to lewisburg federal penitentary for a carjacking? even if he used the firearm, that wouldn't make it a federal crime. did he cross state lines with the car? I can't see how carjacking gets you five lears in lewisburg instead of a state prison.

edited to add:I answered my own question. carjacking is a federal offense. see here: http://www.answers.com/topic/carjacking

the taking of a car from it's owner/occupant makes the crime carjacking, rather than grand theft of an auto (unoccupied). it is a federal offense after a high profile carjacking where a mother was slain. that is why mick strider/burger was sent to lewisburg federal prison. regardless of whether he used a firearm, he took the car while it was occupied. hence the federal charges. he probably should have just boosted one from a parking lot. the above article is informative re: the usage of a firearm during a carjacking, the intent to cause harm or injury, and the difference between car theft and carjacking.

pete

 

[Allan Molstad]

It really makes me wonder though, if anyone has actually come around to the opposing side since this began? My guess is probably not.

From time to time it might help if a person would back-up and remake the arguement that he supports, and thereby make clear where the disagreement is found.

So far I read the first few parts of this topic about some of the more wild claims made by this Strider person, and I noticed that he speaks about himself in a manner of Gonzo.
That Gonzo writer of the 70s did the same when he talked about going on a "dark ops" when really he and his friends just went from bar to bar.

It makes the story of a person's life a bit more interesting to tell thats for sure.

 

[Michelle]

Another one:

www.pbase.com/gary777/buck_strider_tarani_knife

Model 882 Buck Strider Tarani SBT Police Utility knife.

Buck Knives, Strider series is a collaboration between Buck Knives, Mick Strider and Duane Dwyer (former members of United States Special Operations Command-SOCOM). Buck Striders are solid through and through, from the high tech ATS-34 stainless steel blades (custom heat treated by Paul Bos) to the almost indestructible G-10 handles.


If Mick's past is sooooooooooooo secret, he sure as hell likes to tell everyone!

Oh come on. Some of the arguments in here at least have some basis for their questioning, but your posts are truly getting to be ridiculous. Like now Mick is responsible for writing the ad copy of ANOTHER knife company... that is sitting on some dudes personal web page???

Deep down inside you must truly think he is Superman......

Thanks for the laugh though (hint - not with but at).

m1

 

[Allan Molstad]

If Mick was a part of 2/75th Ranger Battalion .

Dont they have like a list of such?
Something we can check and say, "Hey theres his name"?