Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

[Boats]

Military.com has some flaws as well. For example I could give myself the highest security clearance and claim service in up to 5 conflicts and so could anyone else. For that matter it seems to be based on the trust system and many that have not had any prior service could sign on and pretend to have had it from the looks of things.

You still have to take what you read there in profiles and any other info available with a grain of salt because its all based on what was entered in the fields when they registered. Its pretty easy to make mistakes also, which I did and didn't catch in more than one field until going back at a later time.

I have not heard of any checks and balances system going on over there to verify any of the information provided by members. If there is some I'd like to see it.

STR

Yes, it's imperfect. However, most people have never registered there to afford themselves an opportunity to "augment" their records. Most names just have a basic DoD name/service branch/rank/MOS attached.

 

[Spark]

Yes, it's imperfect. However, most people have never registered there to afford themselves an opportunity to "augment" their records. Most names just have a basic DoD name/service branch/rank/MOS attached.

The DOD public database system isn't user alterable anyhow, so that's a moot point.

No one is pointing to a Military.com User Profile. What is being shown is the DOD Public Records Database record returned by the Buddy Finder

 

[Grayscouts]

Military.com's DOD files come from DOD. You do not have to be a member for the buddy finder to list you. If your name come up with a M beside it, then it means you are a member of military.com. Type Mickey R Burger into the Buddy Finder. It only brings up his DOD file, not him being a member. You do not have to be a member for it to work. It is not always up to date for active duty personnel. And it does not have every name ever listed. I have used Military.com's buddy finder to disprove others claims and trying to locate a friend from Korea.

My sister's boyfriend made a claim to me that he earned the CIB in the Army Infantry during Desert Storm, and then got asked to become a Captain in the Seals. Turned out he was a fork lift operator and once the facts were brought to his attention.... I never heard anymore claims of granduer.

Paul

 

[wolfmann601]

Wolfman, why is this a witch hunt? Is it a witch hunt when 60 Minutes or Primetime reports on fraudulent business practices? The definition of witch hunt is the “searching out and deliberate harassment of those with unpopular views” according to Merriam-Webster 11th Collegiate Dictionary. I hardly think exposing truth qualifies as a witch hunt, just my opinion.

Best regards to all,
Allan

If 60 minutes aired an expose and discredited someone would they then do the same story each and every 60 minutes episode for weeks or Months?

This stuff has been played on all the "channels" and certainly hit the prime time here. How many more times do we need to hear this? Now, the Mick story is losing it's gliitter so folks like Boats are now going to try to discredit Duane Dwyer because he has got to be guilty by assocation of something.....................

It becomes a witch hunt when it is played out over and over and over so many times that people start to believe everyone associated with the person in question is guilty of something also.

Yup, it's now a witch hunt..............................................

 

[chickenfried]

Until more people know the truth rather than the lies. When I no longer see new posts with "Mick's rude cause he's seen the elephant" comments.

How many more times do we need to hear this?

 

[STR]

I don't know about that Spark. I found nothing on myself at all until I became a member and then it started finding me. Once people see the part that you are talking about coming up they usually check deeper. So I thought it was worth pointing out that not all of it can be verifiable info.

Wolfman it is apparently old news to you but to many of us a lot of this is brand new stuff. I am puzzled as to why you keep hanging around if its a bore and old news to you.

STR

 

[DaveH]

Well, I've been here for a relatively long time, but there are several aspects that have come out in the last few weeks I didn't know about.

Some of it is old news, sure, and rehashed. But as long as Mick is still telling lies, then it is still pertinent to current discussion.

 

[Gollnick]

Let us, also, please keep this thread on-topic.

If anyone has any evidence about Mr. Dwyer, then I suggest starting a new thread to present and discuss it separately.

Keep in mind, also, that vague suspicions and raised-eyebrow innuendoes are not evidence. This thread is, thus far, founded on some pretty well-documented evidence; let's see if we can keep it that way.

 

[pricecw]

Thanks Spark!

I looked closer at the DD214 and have come to the conclusion that the document is a complete forgery. Many areas are shaded to prevent alterations. This DD214 has a revision of July, 1979 and has a notation of having shaded areas. I do not see any shaded areas, just white background throughout. I am checking to see this revision date was in use in 1986 during Mick's "discharge".

THIS DD214 doesn't pass the smell test.

Mickey Ray Burger/Mickey Strider/Poser :jerkit:

I just checked my DD214 from Nov 89. It has a revision date of 79 also, so I would assume that is legit, since they were still using this rev in 89.

Mine has HONORABLE, but remember, these are typed by the company clerk, If you have a fresh E-1 typing it, could it be possible to have the case changed (in '89 the were still hand typed, not a computer printed form).

I personally would not post my DD214 on the internet, it has too much personnal, identifiable information for me to do so. I do keep certified copies however for things like VA loans.

--Carl

 

[Gollnick]

It becomes a witch hunt when it is played out over and over and over so many times...

No, it becomes a "witch hunt" when it's all based on slight, doubtful, or irrelevant evidence, hearsay, unsubstantiated rummors, baseless speculation, vague suspicions and raised-eyebrow innuendoes.

I've heard some of these accusations against Mr. Strider before. Some of them have been floating around for quite some time. I've often dismissed them as unsubstantiated rummors. I always prefer to think the best of people. But, this thread is the first time I have seen it all laid out on the table in such a clear and irrefutable presentation with each point substantiated by documentary evidence. That's not a witch hunt at all.

Some people here seem to want to attack the presentation (which was very well-done) or the presenter, but not the actual evidence itself. That defense seems rather weak to me.

 

[wolfmann601]

I don't know about that Spark. I found nothing on myself at all until I became a member and then it started finding me. Once people see the part that you are talking about coming up they usually check deeper. So I thought it was worth pointing out that not all of it can be verifiable info.

Wolfman it is apparently old news to you but to many of us a lot of this is brand new stuff. I am puzzled as to why you keep hanging around if its a bore and old news to you.

STR

So now you know STR, will your life change? I suspect a year from now this will still be new news to someone somewhere who somehow finds this out or hears a rumor and wants to know if there is any news concerning this old news.

I don't throw stones at glass houses. While I have lived an exemplary life so far I am certain that someone could dig up something in my past that for some serve to discredit me and make new news all over the place, might even make the news both printed and broadcast. Then the news about me would not be news very long because everyone will know the news and then it is not news, it's old news and old news isn't news.

But thank the Lord we are all angels and have nothing in our past that requires or demands it become news so all can hear the news and because it is news, repeat said news over and over again.. Remember, I don't know Mick, never met Mick, Don't know Duane and never met Duane. Furthermore, I do not own a Strider knife and cannot afford to own one and won't be able to afford one and would not save for one even if Mick were a MOH winner. I have no dog in this fight, no ulterior motive and certainly am not a phucking bleeding heart. I am just your average issue small potato that has no problem with Liars and cheats being outed but do get my panties in a wad when the same info to discredit someone gets repeated over and over again. For some of you guys, you say this is "new news" to you. Just search the net for the party to the party and you'll find all the new news you need and then it won't be new news and hopefully old news that is no longer news and we can move onto news that is news to all of us, maybe even positive news...........................
Yup, I lost it

 

[Knife Outlet]

"Buddy Finder" is based on non-sensitive name/rank/MOS data from DoD records. One need not be registered there to appear in it.

Nope. I went ahead and registered and it simply read back what I entered. I guess I don't count with Military.com. Since my ETS was in 1969, maybe I'm just too old for it.

 

[Bill Siegle]

I have been on many forums for a while and have heard lots of rumors about this subject and personally I appreciate Spark laying it all out. As to his motives how about the simple FYI? I served in the US Army and find it very disturbing when people lie about military service. You serve? You're cool by me no matter what part you played. Lie about what ya did? I have no sympathy for ya. All the liars out there need to be outed at every oppurtunity because they lie about others blood. No one ever lies about being a clerk or a cook. No. They choose to pretend to be SOCOM,Rangers,and SEALS. Those guys died and bled for their honor. Stealing that is just plain sick.

 

[STR]

I have no dog in this fight either and honestly I could have cared less before I saw all of it in one place documented as it is here. In fact I think I said that to some of the guys defending Mick. I have also tried to see this objectively with no opinionated replies but it gets hard as we all know. But unlike you I don't see a witch hunt and if that is what it was then it is one Mick started himself so who is really to blame?

No. Unfortunately my life hasn't changed. I was hoping by viewing the facts that if nothing else I could once again justify to my family of veterans that gave me so much crap for my last PT purchase that the next Strider I purchased was fine and dandy with them so they could see it and not give me the same 'how can you do that spiel as before' but ironically enough I am not finding that to be a fight that can be won.

Maybe you knew about it my friend. But let those of us that didn't read it without being accused of being part of a witch hunt if you can find it in yourself to do that.

STR

 

[lfd972]

Bottom line is Mick did serve, he joined the Army, went to basic, AIT, Jump School, Ranger Induction Program (RIP) served in a Ranger Regiment and was dx'd because of a disabling injury. Man I wish that guy could find some honor in that....geesh the nerve of that guy. I hope he never shows his face in front of real Rangers, they must despise him as much as you.

 

[notdos]

Hi STR,
I normally don't reply to threads like this since as a dealer it can be detrimental to your business to post an "opinion".

To be frank,,I believe the reason why wolfmann and others are voicing their frustrations has to do, at least in part ,with BF's long standing policy of letting pointless threads run on and on.

Since we're discussing a custom maker it might be important to note that several years ago a large portion of the participating custom knife enthusiats left BF for greener pastures. In fact,,there was a time when there was so much custom activity in the for sale area here on BF that a custom knife posted for sale wouldn't hardly stay on page one half a day.

Why did they leave,, lots of reasons not the least of which was redundant, boring, uncontrolled content like: Which sharpener should I buy or Is a Sebenza worth it? or threads like this.

Do those that left still participate? Some do,,some visit and some stay away.

It's true,,BF has lots of members but the majority of custom knife buying, selling, trading and discussion takes place elsewhere. Those that left went to forums that don't put up with bullshit threads like this. Why is it bullshit?

In a nutshell,,none of this matters beacuse those who want a tough, well made tool, buy Strider. Simple as that. Military experience be damned. If somebody bought one just because they believed Mick was something that he may or may not be doesn't change the quality or functionality of the product they paid for.

I participate on all the forums and I enourage you (if you don't already) to participate on all the forums as well since they all have something different to offer and might shed more light on why threads like this continue to exist.

by the way,,the correct answers are Spyderco Sharpmaker and Yes.

Phillip

 

[Grayscouts]

Knife Outlet, Since your ETS was in 1969, the DOD files may have been destroyed in the 1973 fire. That could be why you are not found on the buddy finder.

And I agree with Bill Seigle, its a dishonor to those fallen who earned the honor of being a Special Operations Soldier when hacks pretend to be something they are not. Every year we hear of people wearing medals not earned or even acting like they were in when they were not. These people can and do end up with charges brought against them.

Paul

 

[chickenfried]

IMHO there is honor in serving your country in any role. So who's choice was it to embellish the bottom line you stated?

Bottom line is Mick did serve, he joined the Army, went to basic, AIT, Jump School, Ranger Induction Program (RIP) served in a Ranger Regiment and was dx'd because of a disabling injury. Man I wish that guy could find some honor in that....

 

[Keith Montgomery]

The people whom like Strider knives will likely continue to like them( I do), while the people whom don't like them will likely continue to not like them as well.
Good luck on the crusades, guys.

Though the people that really support Strider will continue to do so, I know of some folks that were thinking of purchasing Strider knives that now wouldn't take one if you gave it to them. There are probably people that have looked at this train wreck and decided to purchase a Strider knife because of it, but I don't know of any.

 

[hawksbill]

Though the people that really support Strider will continue to do so, I know of some folks that were thinking of purchasing Strider knives that now wouldn't take one if you gave it to them. There are probably people that have looked at this train wreck and decided to purchase a Strider knife because of it, but I don't know of any.

i guess i can see that. :foot:

like how i wont purchase anthing from 1sks, because of the people behind it.

and since you can make speculative comments, i guess i will as well:

and i know some folks that may consider purchasing form 1sks, that wont now. and then there are folks that just seeing the muck-raking will avoid 1sks and spend thier money elsewhere.