Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

[Jim G.]

Well one Ranger organization has already proven one allegation, Mick was in 2nd Bat.

I never questioned that. Have you heard anything back from your inquires yet. I would really like to know what they say. I would imagine for their own peace of mind they would want this cleared up factually and quickly.

 

[NousDefions]

You'll note that the head of the organization also said that the rest of his story sounded like BS.

Sir, I believe I've been extremely cordial in this discussion, but now you are just trying to push buttons.

Please, please don't repeatedly reiterate that this is a thread based solely on FACTS, and then go around posting people's opinions as if they are credible proof... because that's what you're doing.

 

[jdm61]

In the first post, he mentions a SAW drum. That, to me, signifies that he was talking about the time he was in the military. I've only handled an M249 a few times in a civilian capacity, and I never set up a kit to carry drums.

In the second post, it again seems as if he is discussing military usage, reference by his verbage "down range", "M4's", and "the ability to hold 21 M4 mags". Nothing about that says ANYTHING about civilian, post-release usage.

Perhaps if his post said something like "I was at the range yesterday, shooting with my buddies" you would have a case. As of now, you're just speculating... and reaching.

He's already redacted his combat/decoration claims in a court of law. That allegation has already been settled in a legal fashion, and is over with.

Did SOE, the makers of the gear he was referring too, exist when he was in the Army? I thought it was another one of his companies that he started after he got out of prison. Furthermore, it sounds like he is talking about carrying one of his current model knives, which clearly did not exist when he was in te Army. Also sounds like he is speaking in the present tense circa 2002. Maybe i am incorrect.

 

[Horned Toad]

I think I stated very clearly that Mick Strider was in the 2nd Batt. You'll note that the head of the organization also said that the rest of his story sounded like BS.

Sounds like and is, are two different things, and the way you and the POWNET portray the information is misleading. I will be sending a second email off to POWNET today to see if they can get some impartiality in their posting.

 

[Allan Molstad]

Mr Molstad. Either stop trolling the thread, or post constructively. Now you are trying to sidetrack again. Last warning.

Spark please understand,,,Im not trying to side track your topic...

And when you told me I could catch up by reading the two links, I went and read the two links like you told me to do....
I stopped posting and did my homework.

Im back here now , but not to defend Strider (I too found Strider's "Lick my sack" comment in poor manners), Not to attack strider, and really not to get you upset.

BUT the problem is that them two links you gave me dont address this one centeral problem of the charges against Strider.
The two links are just posts of guys going back and forth about if they like or dislike Strider as a person.

But I could not find a link to a place where the actually real text of this claim was made by Strider that gets people so upset.

I dont want to post here and be seen as in the way...
But if you could just allow yourself to post one more time,,,just give me one more link that shows the words or claim of Strider thats so upsetting.

Im just asking for one more link....
A link to where I can read the words of Strider for myself...I want to see the proof.

 

[NousDefions]

Did SOE, the makers of the gear he was referring too, exist when he was in the Army? I thought it was another one of his companies that he started after he got out of prison. Furthermore, it sounds like he is talking about carrying one of his current model knives, which clearly did not exist when he was in te Army. Also sounds like he is speaking in the present tense circa 2002. Maybe i am incorrect.

He has every right to carry a knife. You're merging two different possible time-frames together, and twisting the post to suit your own motives. Also, please not that Mr. Strider didn't just get out of jail and "POOF!" started making knives. I doubt he had an "SLCC" in Ranger Batt, but a lot of time passed between then and the time he was incarcerated. It does sound strange, but that doesn't prove anything.

Again, this is supposed to be based on FACT and PROOF, not conjecture.

His "tense" isn't on trial here, nor is it proof of anything.

 

[Spark]

He has every right to carry a knife. You're merging two different possible time-frames together, and twisting the post to suit your own motives.

Again, this is supposed to be based on FACT and PROOF, not conjecture.

His "tense" isn't on trial here, nor is it proof of anything.

I disagree. "My current rig" says one thing and one thing only - that it's his rig, right there, right then. That's a fact, jack. It's not "the rig I used in the 2/75" because SOE wasn't in business in 86. Safariland wasn't making those holsters in 86.

So, either he's just a poser handling magazines and CQB gear, replete with holster, or he's handling firerams. Your choice which you believe.

 

[jdm61]

He has every right to carry a knife. You're merging two different possible time-frames together, and twisting the post to suit your own motives.

Again, this is supposed to be based on FACT and PROOF, not conjecture.

His "tense" isn't on trial here, nor is it proof of anything.

I am just observing. I am not alleging that Mick has violated any laws. My point is that he has a habit of presenting himself as a rough and ready special operator. "I carry this, I carry that, this is how I dump my mags, this is how I get 21 M4 mags on my LBE" Notice the I, I, I, NOT, "this what our customers have told us and what we have done." This is NOT experience that you gain in 2 months with the Batts. This is stuff that he has picked up from his customers, friends, and literature that he has rolled into his bullshit legend and fantasy life. And the timeline doesn't work. But, to quote Dennis Miller "Thats just my opinion....I may be wrong"

 

[Horned Toad]

I never questioned that. Have you heard anything back from your inquires yet. I would really like to know what they say. I would imagine for their own peace of mind they would want this cleared up factually and quickly.

I have not heard anything back and if I did it would still be up to them to post the info either good or bad since both have much more creditability posting stuff than me, a faceless name on the internet. I have really only contacted them to give them back story on the people that they are quote on their website and how that makes them look. To quote Kevin really doesn’t add any legitimacy to you posts.

 

[NousDefions]

So, either he's just a poser handling magazines and CQB gear, replete with holster, or he's handling firerams. Your choice which you believe.

There's a third choice. You're taking a single word choice from a 5 year old internet messageboard post and trying to build a castle on top of it.

There's a whole lot of bluster being made about a lot of insignificant things about this man's life. None of which has anything to do with PROOF.

My current paintball rig is a Tipmann Pro-lite, but I haven't touched it in 8 years.

 

[Spark]

Spark please understand,,,Im not trying to side track your topic...

Im just asking for one more link....
A link to where I can read the words of Strider for myself...I want to see the proof.

So you haven't read the myriad of quotes liberally copied at the start of this thread? You didn't download the applicable attachments?

Are you frigging kidding me?

 

[NousDefions]

I am not alleging that Mick has violated any laws. My point is that he has a habit of presenting himself as a rough and ready special operator.

Two friggin' posts from a 5 year time frame in no way constitutes a "habit."

If that's the case, I have a habit of banging fat chicks.

 

[Spark]

There's a third choice. You're taking a single word choice from a 5 year old internet messageboard post and trying to build a castle on top of it.

There's a whole lot of bluster being made about a lot of insignificant things about this man's life. None of which has anything to do with PROOF.

My current paintball rig is a Tipmann Pro-lite, but I haven't touched it in 8 years.

That isn't a 3rd choice, that's completely irrelevant, and an attack on me again instead of answering the question. You are very good at attacking me, and very poor at staying on subject.

There is a third choice, however: Mick Strider lied and that's not his rig at all. None of those choices speak very well for him. The PROOF is his own words. Or are you going to say that he didn't make those statements too?

 

[roughedges]

its all about plausible deniability and many of Strider's supporters will go to their graves denying that his words mean what they so obviously do. Now why can't I have friends like that?

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Spark, you had mentioned that there were several organizations involved and I see that POWnetwork has posted a page regarding all of this. Do you know of any further information that will be made available?

 

[NousDefions]

That isn't a 3rd choice, that's completely irrelevant, and an attack on me again instead of answering the question. You are very good at attacking me, and very poor at staying on subject.

There is a third choice, however: Mick Strider lied and that's not his rig at all. None of those choices speak very well for him. The PROOF is his own words. Or are you going to say that he didn't make those statements too?

First off, in no way was what I posted an "attack on you". What YOU are making is an ad hominem argument on this issue, against both me AND Mr. Strider, and nothing more.

I have no doubt that it is his rig. He shared floor space with SOE, for chrissakes. I'm sure he got all of that stuff for free. Maybe he is exaggerating, and posting tips from real operators as his own. Seriously man, one post from 5 years ago interests me in the amount of zero. If I couldn't handle a little bullshitting from time to time, I wouldn't go drinking in military town.

 

[ss6sonola]

What I'm trying to understand is how long Mick was under supervised parole, and where was the parole officer? I just can't believe a PO would allow a person with a felony to enter the knifemaking trade, especially one that's geared at combat. PO's I've talked with have told me that they've busted guys who've simply had decorative Japanese swords hanging on the wall.

It must have been one hell of a mad dash for Mick to hide all his stuff every time the PO came knocking at his door!

 

[Allan Molstad]

You didn't download the applicable attachments?

I did not download..am Im sorry to say that to you..

..Im always scared to do that because of the problems that can get on my computer.so when I see a downloar file I skip it..

But I will now drop back, go over things again, and download the files.
and see the proof you have listed there..

thanks...
I dont mean to sidetrack your topic,,I just want to see for myself what you are so upset about.

(Oh this will be links to the real words of Strider right?..and not just links to what other people are saying about him from different quotes ?
I want real proof, real links to the real posts so i can see things in the full context)

 

[Spark]

First off, in no way was what I posted an "attack on you". What YOU are making is an ad hominem argument on this issue, against both me AND Mr. Strider, and nothing more.

I have no doubt that it is his rig. He shared floor space with SOE, for chrissakes. I'm sure he got all of that stuff for free. Maybe he is exaggerating, and posting tips from real operators as his own. Seriously man, one post from 5 years ago interests me in the amount of zero. If I couldn't handle a little bullshitting from time to time, I wouldn't go drinking in military town.

Hah, whatever. So "exaggerations" is the new term for lying about his background and experience? There's another term for it - being a phony. It's not just 1 post from 5 years ago, otherwise he wouldn't have the rep. He wouldn't have guys convinced he was a combat vet with medals, and willing to post about it. He wouldn't have magazines writing about how high speed he is. So please, don't insult everyone's intelligence by making those claims. This is a pattern of behavior over several years, on various sites.

You've already stated your interest is zero, we get that. That doesn't negate that he made the claims and is hiding from taking responsibility from them.

I'll tell you what, I'll lock this thread, right now, if he's willing to come out and state that he lied about the Prosecutor telling him he'd be sentenced to Somalia. No equivocations, no dodging the statements, no other misdirection bullshit. Just a simple statement saying "I, Mick Strider, lied when I made the claims that I was to be sentenced to 1 years service in Somalia as punishment for my carjacking felony. This has no basis in fact, it is something I created to try to make myself look better."

That's what got me fired up and digging on this issue. So, if he's willing to let that go, I'll close this down.
You think he's willing to do so?

 

[Pete1977]

He has every right to carry a knife.

does a convicted felon have the right to carry a knife? I know in some states the law isn't felon in possession of a firearm, but of a deadly weapon, the weapon defined by that state's statutes and the person in possession's intent and criminal history.

I don't know though.

What I'm trying to understand is how long Mick was under supervised parole, and where was the parole officer? I just can't believe a PO would allow a person with a felony to enter the knifemaking trade, especially one that's geared at combat. PO's I've talked with have told me that they've busted guys who've simply had decorative Japanese swords hanging on the wall.

It must have been one hell of a mad dash for Mick to hide all his stuff every time the PO came knocking at his door!

I was under the impression that Mickey Ray Burger served his full sentence and was not under supervision upon release. again, i don't know though.

 

[DocArnie]

Maybe he is exaggerating, and posting tips from real operators as his own. Seriously man, one post from 5 years ago interests me in the amount of zero. If I couldn't handle a little bullshitting from time to time, I wouldn't go drinking in military town.

Am I hallucinating or are we actually making progress here?

We've come a long way around the barn until we got to the point, where his supporters admit that he's talking BS.