Modern Traditionals....;)

I'm not sure if this knife belongs here or not but I think it does. I thought I would try out one of these Swiza knives. This is the D02 model. I like the newer innovations that these offer but I'm still partial to the Alox Victorinox models.

The coolest things about this D02 are that I adore the color and the liner lock is released by pushing on the cross. Neat!

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who likes Dellana Dots on a blade?
Here's my first just completed . .Much thanks to Des Horn for some guidance on this.
This is my model Clarkdale slipjoint. 416 hardened Stainless angled integral bolster liner. Fossil ivory and ironwood. laminated forged Sumingashi blade. Fancy Ti pivot/screw and copper collar.
comments and criticism welcome

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Not really a traditionally styled knife, you might be better off in another forum!
 
I agree H HSC /// - It does have a futuristic look but except for those damnable torx :rolleyes: it is certainly a Modern Traditional. Nice lookin' too :thumbsup:

BTW - I really think Torx is the best version of screws ever invented. I use them every day.

Ray
 
Beautiful as usual HSC ///.
It's a modern traditional in my book, similar to the Lionsteel knives from CK. I have suggested before that we need a category for modern trads so we don't have to worry about upsetting the "old guard." There's a category for multitools, why not modern trads?
Posting here in traditional can create unnecessary conflicts.
So far it's fallen on deaf ears.
Anyway, I love the blade and the dots. I'd be happy to own it. Someday I'll be placing an order with you.
 
Good looking knife. I guess some day there can be a 600 page thread with a poll over what makes a knife "traditional". Many feel that it has to be on a frame made prior to 19xx. Many feel that it can't include any component invented since 1950. Personally I think it is silly to exclude a knife due to a type of pull, fastener, or material used - which is generally in line with the forum definitions. But for most things that people will argue exclude a knife, we can find examples from 70+ years ago that break the rule the same way. So, each person is allowed some slack to have their own definition.

I had a dear friend that was a machinist by trade, but after retirement worked on knives nearly all day. There are countless old Cattaraugus, Remington, Winchester, Camillus, Case, etc. that were released back into the wild with buffed screws holding the slabs on. They are a lot of folks out there today that will never know their 80-100 year old prized possession is actually a "modern" knife by some peoples definition.....
 
Pinemoon said:
Beautiful as usual HSC ///.
It's a modern traditional in my book, similar to the Lionsteel knives from CK. I have suggested before that we need a category for modern trads so we don't have to worry about upsetting the "old guard." There's a category for multitools, why not modern trads?
Posting here in traditional can create unnecessary conflicts.
So far it's fallen on deaf ears.
Anyway, I love the blade and the dots. I'd be happy to own it. Someday I'll be placing an order with you.
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I'm may be confused :confused: - I have been under the illusion that this thread IS dedicated to
MODERN Traditionals and so there was much more latitude allowed IN THIS THREAD. Pretty much the only broad unacceptable (I thought) was any knife with a pocket clip.

Pinemoon Pinemoon your comment leads me to believe that I may have missed the point of this thread. It isn't a thread about Modern Traditionals but rather a thread about Traditionals that are currently being manufactured but in ALL respects are still solidly in the Traditional camp. I may have violated the intent of the thread with my comments and a few photos. :(

Ray
 
RayseM said:
I'm may be confused :confused: - I have been under the illusion that this thread IS dedicated to
MODERN Traditionals and so there was much more latitude allowed IN THIS THREAD. Pretty much the only broad unacceptable (I thought) was any knife with a pocket clip.

Pinemoon Pinemoon your comment leads me to believe that I may have missed the point of this thread. It isn't a thread about Modern Traditionals but rather a thread about Traditionals that are currently being manufactured but in ALL respects are still solidly in the Traditional camp. I may have violated the intent of the thread with my comments and a few photos. :(

Ray
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Post 386 shows someone took offense that H HSC /// knife was posted here. And other instances of similar disparaging comments certainly exist here.
It's this kind of stuff that has me thinking the solution is a modern trad CATEGORY, not simply a thread. Anyone can create a thread.

A *category* would be sanctioned by BF staff and by default be an appropriate place to showcase, discuss and celebrate modern slipjoint / lockback innovation. Just like H HSC /// is doing.

This, Blade Forums, is the place we want this to happen, right?

As it stands now, modern trads are sort of permitted to post within the Traditional category, but they are open to attack from the old guard.

As I see it, one of two things need to happen. Either a moderator condemns a post like the one of #386, saying modern slipjoints / lockbacks are permitted here and to adjust... OR a new category for modern trads gets created by BF.

Otherwise everyone tiptoes posting moderns and the old guard are free to say take a hike "franken barlow."

It can work better.
 
Pinemoon said:
Post 386 shows someone took offense that H HSC /// knife was posted here. And other instances of similar disparaging comments certainly exist here.
It's this kind of stuff that has me thinking the solution is a modern trad CATEGORY, not simply a thread. Anyone can create a thread.

A *category* would be sanctioned by BF staff and by default be an appropriate place to showcase, discuss and celebrate modern slipjoint / lockback innovation. Just like H HSC /// is doing.

This, Blade Forums, is the place we want this to happen, right?

As it stands now, modern trads are sort of permitted to post within the Traditional category, but they are open to attack from the old guard.

As I see it, one of two things need to happen. Either a moderator condemns a post like the one of #386, saying modern slipjoints / lockbacks are permitted here and to adjust... OR a new category for modern trads gets created by BF.

Otherwise everyone tiptoes posting moderns and the old guard are free to say take a hike "franken barlow."

It can work better.
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thanks for your comments,
FWIW, I posted this originally under the main category of "Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades"
It was moved here to Modern Traditionals by a moderator (after #386), and I'm ok with that,
Honestly I did not know that this Modern thread even existed, :D
 
RayseM said:
I agree H HSC /// - It does have a futuristic look but except for those damnable torx :rolleyes: it is certainly a Modern Traditional. Nice lookin' too :thumbsup:

BTW - I really think Torx is the best version of screws ever invented. I use them every day.

Ray
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I've moved to screws for the pivot, away from a peened pin. Am curious what fastener you prefer (instead of the Torx)?
 
HSC /// said:
I've moved to screws for the pivot, away from a peened pin. Am curious what fastener you prefer (instead of the Torx)?
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I was serious about my preference for torx over all types of screws I have used. My "damnable" comment was an acknowledgement that these are frowned upon by the traditional purist, but to me in a "modern traditional" they are just a smart use of an improved technology.

Having said that - my favorite traditional knives have been put together with pins and even some straight slotted screws, which can add a great deal of simple esthetic appeal to a wooden clad folder.

My 2¢.

Ray
 
Pinemoon Pinemoon - still would require parameters - which leads to debate - which leads one not to try taking on this endeavor. :rolleyes:

I myself am a "modern traditional" and so I am less prone to apoplexy when the "line" is crossed.;)

Ray
 
RayseM said:
Pinemoon Pinemoon - still would require parameters - which leads to debate - which leads one not to try taking on this endeavor. :rolleyes:

I myself am a "modern traditional" and so I am less prone to apoplexy when the "line" is crossed.;)

Ray
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Yeah, I'm a "modern traditional," too :)
Parameters can be erected. Let's stop kicking the can down the road.
Nothing's perfect, but it can work better.
That's all...
 
Separating would only move said knives to a sub-forum that would eventually die and give anyone in this sub-forum an argument as to why they shouldn't be discussed here even though they meet the criteria of a traditional. I do not agree that it should be pursued.
 
Perhaps.
Earlier I said one of two things needed to happen.
Either a new category be created, or have a mod step in when someone disses a modern trad with the message "modern slipjoints / lockbacks are permitted here, you'll have to adjust."

Currently neither seems to be occurring.
 
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