Modified Wharncliff Sebenza Project

I have to agree. Making it somewhere inbetween what was posted in that heat colored example with the blade by Weiland and the original idea would make the knife far more interesting. I'd buy one. I find the current models old news and rather blan if not outright boring anymore. Chris needs to do something different and interesting IMO.

STR
 
Sure would be nice if CRK gives some kind of response, any kind whether negative or positive or just maybe.
 
oufti said:
They gave a response, It was a no :)
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Is this "no" definitive?!

CRK seems to be enough dynamic to make sometime this kind of special Sebenzas, and your project makes the adaptations to be made very minimal so where is exactly the problem?
 
Seems that the adaptations are not so minimal as they seems, a partial quote:


there is much more involved in such a modification than seems apparent at first. Essentially, this would require a complete redesign of the mechanics of the Sebenza and we are not in a position to offer such a project at this time.
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"complete redesign of the mechanics of the Sebenza"?!

it is not exactly what I understood from your plans...
 
There is no reason for a complete redesign. Some sculpting rather than anodizing, some heat treat, or mix of various beads to darken the finish during a bead blasting and a Wharny blade do wonders to make it more interesting. Even the model T, good as it was had to change with peoples tastes and interests.

STR
 
Other than just being a different blade design than the Standard and Calssic Sebenzas, why a Wharncliff blade? Or, modifried Wharncliff? What would be the advantage of that design?
I would really appreciate your opinions.

I have a couple of Strider WPs with, I think, Wharncliff blades. They are nice but I don't use them very often.

Thank you in advance. I'm not trying to be the t--- in the punchbowl. I really am here to learn.

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Rich
 
Several reasons some people enjoy the wharncliff blade shape or modified wharncliff

A lot of folks don't hunt, but use their knives for more utilitarian type uses where a
curved tip can be detrimental, in that it could run off the material you are cutting
especially on harder material such as plastics and wood. Sailors have long used the
sheepsfoot, a blunted wharncliff pattern, but mainly the same with it's straight edge
as when you go to cut through a rope, the straight edge comes in very handy.

The tip of the wharncliff can be applied more easily do work on a flat surface instead
of having to raise the knife up at an awkward angle to use the very tip to cut along
a line of material.

In fighting, one of the many choices of blade styles, see the links below

Antiquanova

History

Folder

When the fighters swung their straight edged swords, the blade didn't run off, but stayed
on the mark, cutting into it.

BUT, as with everything in life, there are choices, all these folks are asking/begging is to
see another variance in the Chris Reeve line up, I know Chris had made a spear point
folder a long time ago, even that would be a welcome change, of course for the Reeve's
it is more an industry than custom knife manufacturing, which they are the benchmark
of most all other folders, with good reason. So it makes sense that they haven't the
time or man power to take on something out of the ordinary as that puts in the proverbial
monkeywrench into their well run system.

You are more than welcome to enjoy your favourite blade shapes and those two you show
there are slick looking pieces too.
G2
 
Gary W. Graley said:
A lot of folks don't hunt, but use their knives for more utilitarian type uses where a curved tip can be detrimental,..
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Like... in a plate,.. the ceramic of the plate will always be thougher than any metal, whith a Wharncliff/mod. wharncliff only the tip of the blade touch the plate, all the rest is preserved for cutting.

With a more classic blade shape the blade gets dull very fast by the direct contact of the plate.
 
Thanks very much, Gary!

As Oufti mentioned, it is often the point a Wharncliff that is used. To me this means that before too long the point becomes rounded. I don't see the point of using the point of a nice, relatively expensive folder, like a Sebenza, if you need to use the point frequently. It would seem a better tool for the job would be a simple, cheap, box cutter. But, YMMV.

I like a knife with a good sized straight section in the edge. I like the Wharncliff style as work knife. But it just drives me crazy
rounding over that nice, sharp point. I guess one could keep re-grinding the forward part of the blade (still the spine?) to bring
back a Wharncliff's point.

For self defense a Wharncliff, like the ones in my pic (a couple of posts above), may be fine for slashing, but not very good for stabbing.

Sorry to say this, but I don't think a modified Wharncliff has much sex appeal. It's all work and no fun. :-)

Thanks again,
Rich
 
Of course that is just one use, against a plate is something I try to avoid
no matter where the point of the blade rests, glass is hard, so I tend to try
and cut the food just to the point of being severed and then cutting on itself
so as not to hit the plate. But yes, if you press the point down hard it will
need to be touched up, as would any other knife, just takes technique I suppose.

All depends on your use and needs, some people only use their knives to open the
mail, now a $400 plus folder for mail opening seems a bit steep ;) but, you do get
to open the mail in style :)

G2
 
Settling for this one for now ;) while it's not a frame lock...not a liner lock...hmmm not a pressure lock...
not an axis lock...not a mid lock...not a back lock...it still works nice :)
small modified wharncliff
G2
 
I've got the very same as my EDC (non locking for UK)
I'm not sure modding the scales for this project is helping it's chances. A simple blade swap wouls still mean they have costs in setting up a machine to cut the blades out and there might be issues with grinding a blade for a wharncliffe. Would you want a hollow grind as deep as a sebbi blade on this?
 
Andy_L said:
A simple blade swap wouls still mean they have costs in setting up a machine to cut the blades out
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My local laser cutting company ask me like 25$ for setting their machine to my needs...

and there might be issues with grinding a blade for a wharncliffe.
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Why ? As for myself I find easier to grind wharncliff than any other profile.


Would you want a hollow grind as deep as a sebbi blade on this?
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Full flat grind.
 
I was just thinking that if you wanted a full flat grind rather then the fairly deep hollow grind then they might not have machines spare to do it on.
I didn't know how much it cost to set up a machine to cut the blades out
 
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