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Do it brotha, perfect steel and with .165 inch stock, the modding opportunities are endless. You could classy them up, Armageddonize them, you name it.
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Monster Chopper that I can take to Hell and Back Knife
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Go Custom all the way
Holt sh#t!!! That is amazing. Almost like a Chinese War Sward with a backwoods "American" destruction theme. i like it!!! :thumbup:
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Maybe Andy at Fiddleback Forge could make you something nice. I still think the BK9 is a good bet though. I'm kinda skeptical of this claim about Bussekin being "undisputed king."
I mean heck, the little ole BK2 can do this:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ting-the-BK2-to-the-test-so-you-don-t-have-to
and this:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/839944-BK2-test-the-final-part-(LOTS-of-pictures)
Anyone want to put their Bussekin through the same kind of abuse? With a Becker, you can. Tell ya what. If someone puts their Busse chopper through serious destruction testing, I'll buy a BK9 straight up and match you test for test. How's that? You can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your Busse is the undisputed king. Of course, you ruin an 800+ dollar knife and you're gonna feel really bad. Just sayin...
I mean heck, the little ole BK2 can do this:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ting-the-BK2-to-the-test-so-you-don-t-have-to
and this:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/839944-BK2-test-the-final-part-(LOTS-of-pictures)
Anyone want to put their Bussekin through the same kind of abuse? With a Becker, you can. Tell ya what. If someone puts their Busse chopper through serious destruction testing, I'll buy a BK9 straight up and match you test for test. How's that? You can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your Busse is the undisputed king. Of course, you ruin an 800+ dollar knife and you're gonna feel really bad. Just sayin...
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Don't want to burst your bubble but plenty of destruction testing goes down in the Busse world.
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For the money you have you can find a Becker Brute(BK-1) somewhere online and well under your budget. But for about $75 you can get a Kershaw Outcast or a Condor Boomslang
and in the custom area you can get a ton of stuff, my latest chopper is from Mncees Custom knives and is about half your budget but worth every penny if need be. Its a 9" 2-1/4" wide and 1/4" thick beast!!! Its made from deferentially heat treated 1095 carbon steel and will cut or kill anything it comes into contact with. You should give him a call cuz he caa also make something to your own design for a great price as well. I've put the pics in the order I mentioned the knives and the bottom few are from custom makers:
Here's my Mcnees on the bottom
here's a Lamey Custom cleaver style
and in the custom area you can get a ton of stuff, my latest chopper is from Mncees Custom knives and is about half your budget but worth every penny if need be. Its a 9" 2-1/4" wide and 1/4" thick beast!!! Its made from deferentially heat treated 1095 carbon steel and will cut or kill anything it comes into contact with. You should give him a call cuz he caa also make something to your own design for a great price as well. I've put the pics in the order I mentioned the knives and the bottom few are from custom makers:
Here's my Mcnees on the bottom
here's a Lamey Custom cleaver style
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Hey Streaker!
First and foremost let me start by saying that;
-I am by and far NOT an expert, in any way shape or form, nor do I profess to be.
-There are MANY on this forum who are far more knowledgeable than I.
-There are many engineers who can explain all the subtleties far better than I of design and steel make up.
With this in mind, I generally do not often put too much opinion forth on these matters - I always find it better to sit back and soak up the great knowledge provided by the members here. In your case, I'm making a rare sort of exception becaue there is some thinking that might be slightly obtuse that I wanted to stress to you and have you consider.
You've been presented with some EXCELLANT choices. The Busse Battle mistress and the Becker BK-1 "brute" being two of the most outstanding in the department of "world ending toughness", though damn near any knife that has been mentioned here is a monster in their own right and should not be consiered "lesser" by any standard.
I get a very real sense that what you're really trying to get at is that you want a knife that you could literally survive off. For that to be true, the first and foremost thing is Knowledge - making a spear out of your knife and some wood is easy if you know how and have the skill. So I'm not trying to be confrontational but consider it realistically; Do you know how to use that tool effectively? This idea/tool might be useless in the hands of the guy who is an accountant and has never left his office and has no training [his idea of "roughing it" being that they were out of dijon and he is having to make due]. On teh other hand some former special forced operator could use that combo to kill his enemies and dinner in the dark on new years eve with a slight hangover. A truly well trained man could probably make due with a 3" blade buck knife folder - not because it is what he would choose, but because it is what he had on him AND he had the skill to make it work. So proper training would be the better priority to me.
That being said, the better tool is always the better tool, and no one would choose to go into a situation as you describe with such a small knife if they could help it. That being said, I would put forth that one of the things I often hear from guys who have bought such huge knives is that once the shine wears off the apple so to speak, it became a really cool but ultimately huge knife that they don't find comfortable to carry for any real great distances. If you've ever carried a large 15"-18" knife while trying to, oh I don't know, say climb a rocky steep angle hill, it quickly wears you out and gets in the way. Likewise, as another member said, a $30 ax chops better than any $1K knife. So think about what you will REALISTICALLY both NEED and also USE [having a knife made to survive the hurricanes just might be overbuilt for the guy who lives in surburbia right? You might clear a tree after a bad storm - true - but you'll probably also walk back to the house and grab an ax or chainsaw to do that]. Right tool for the job and all. It's nice when a tool CAN be pressed into other roles in an emergency, but it doesn't absolutely HAVE to. The freed up space/weight of a smaller knife that is better at the chores it will face most often might then allow you to pack a small ax or even an e-tool in your bag [which makes an excellant shovel/axe/seat/you name it multi-purpose tool into and unto themselves!].
For the average guy going camping, or conversely, the average guy who wants a true survival knife [meaning that it will have to prep food, make camp, be used for defense, and help with the fire] You can make due with a much smaller, lighter knife, that will be less fatiguing, take up less space, and work better for the every day use. Could a battle mistress chop down a whole tree? absolutely. But I can use a KA-BAR USMC knife to cutt branches, make fuzz sticks & Fluff, and make a stick to roast my hot dog on just fine - hell, bigger branches can just be broken with my foot! and I'd never need to cut down ANY tree for any of these things. So you might perhaps consider something more in that size?
Steel choice is also something to consider - Some stainless steels and alloys are easier to maintian, but then again, is it truly hard to find 10 seconds to wipe off a blade? The Ghurkas have been using high carbon spring steel on thier Kukris for war for hundreds of years! I'm really fond of CTS-XHP, a great steel that has the resistance of stainless but has amazing edge retention without being brittle. My Hinderer Fieldtac is an amazing knife for what you're looking at doing and features this steel. The Duratech 20cv steel is great too. That being said, the standard carbon steel USMC knife worked wonders thoughout WWII and Korea and Vietnam! D2 Tool steel and Spring steels have been making some amazing knives for years too!
If you're wanting a truly hard use knife, I'd probably recomend somethign full tang with side scale type handles in Micarta or G-10 - admitedly the stacked leather of the traditional KA-BAR can rot if kept wet for extremely long periods of time, but then again we are talking a LONG time.
All in all, I hope this gives you some thought. If I were to boil down my absolute top five recomendatons, I could recomend, in absolutely no particular order;
Rick Hinderer "Fieldtac"
Fehrman knives "First Strike"
Becker BKT-7
KA-BAR Synthetic handle USMC
Justin Ranger [pick one - they are all great, though I REALLY like the afghan]
I see you're in my neck of the woods, so If you'd ever like to come check out my Hinderer Fieldtac, let me know and we'll see what we can arrange. Hope that helps! Best of luck - the serach for teh "perfect knife" never really does end, so We'll be seeing plenty of you around!
First and foremost let me start by saying that;
-I am by and far NOT an expert, in any way shape or form, nor do I profess to be.
-There are MANY on this forum who are far more knowledgeable than I.
-There are many engineers who can explain all the subtleties far better than I of design and steel make up.
With this in mind, I generally do not often put too much opinion forth on these matters - I always find it better to sit back and soak up the great knowledge provided by the members here. In your case, I'm making a rare sort of exception becaue there is some thinking that might be slightly obtuse that I wanted to stress to you and have you consider.
You've been presented with some EXCELLANT choices. The Busse Battle mistress and the Becker BK-1 "brute" being two of the most outstanding in the department of "world ending toughness", though damn near any knife that has been mentioned here is a monster in their own right and should not be consiered "lesser" by any standard.
I get a very real sense that what you're really trying to get at is that you want a knife that you could literally survive off. For that to be true, the first and foremost thing is Knowledge - making a spear out of your knife and some wood is easy if you know how and have the skill. So I'm not trying to be confrontational but consider it realistically; Do you know how to use that tool effectively? This idea/tool might be useless in the hands of the guy who is an accountant and has never left his office and has no training [his idea of "roughing it" being that they were out of dijon and he is having to make due]. On teh other hand some former special forced operator could use that combo to kill his enemies and dinner in the dark on new years eve with a slight hangover. A truly well trained man could probably make due with a 3" blade buck knife folder - not because it is what he would choose, but because it is what he had on him AND he had the skill to make it work. So proper training would be the better priority to me.
That being said, the better tool is always the better tool, and no one would choose to go into a situation as you describe with such a small knife if they could help it. That being said, I would put forth that one of the things I often hear from guys who have bought such huge knives is that once the shine wears off the apple so to speak, it became a really cool but ultimately huge knife that they don't find comfortable to carry for any real great distances. If you've ever carried a large 15"-18" knife while trying to, oh I don't know, say climb a rocky steep angle hill, it quickly wears you out and gets in the way. Likewise, as another member said, a $30 ax chops better than any $1K knife. So think about what you will REALISTICALLY both NEED and also USE [having a knife made to survive the hurricanes just might be overbuilt for the guy who lives in surburbia right? You might clear a tree after a bad storm - true - but you'll probably also walk back to the house and grab an ax or chainsaw to do that]. Right tool for the job and all. It's nice when a tool CAN be pressed into other roles in an emergency, but it doesn't absolutely HAVE to. The freed up space/weight of a smaller knife that is better at the chores it will face most often might then allow you to pack a small ax or even an e-tool in your bag [which makes an excellant shovel/axe/seat/you name it multi-purpose tool into and unto themselves!].
For the average guy going camping, or conversely, the average guy who wants a true survival knife [meaning that it will have to prep food, make camp, be used for defense, and help with the fire] You can make due with a much smaller, lighter knife, that will be less fatiguing, take up less space, and work better for the every day use. Could a battle mistress chop down a whole tree? absolutely. But I can use a KA-BAR USMC knife to cutt branches, make fuzz sticks & Fluff, and make a stick to roast my hot dog on just fine - hell, bigger branches can just be broken with my foot! and I'd never need to cut down ANY tree for any of these things. So you might perhaps consider something more in that size?
Steel choice is also something to consider - Some stainless steels and alloys are easier to maintian, but then again, is it truly hard to find 10 seconds to wipe off a blade? The Ghurkas have been using high carbon spring steel on thier Kukris for war for hundreds of years! I'm really fond of CTS-XHP, a great steel that has the resistance of stainless but has amazing edge retention without being brittle. My Hinderer Fieldtac is an amazing knife for what you're looking at doing and features this steel. The Duratech 20cv steel is great too. That being said, the standard carbon steel USMC knife worked wonders thoughout WWII and Korea and Vietnam! D2 Tool steel and Spring steels have been making some amazing knives for years too!
If you're wanting a truly hard use knife, I'd probably recomend somethign full tang with side scale type handles in Micarta or G-10 - admitedly the stacked leather of the traditional KA-BAR can rot if kept wet for extremely long periods of time, but then again we are talking a LONG time.
All in all, I hope this gives you some thought. If I were to boil down my absolute top five recomendatons, I could recomend, in absolutely no particular order;
Rick Hinderer "Fieldtac"
Fehrman knives "First Strike"
Becker BKT-7
KA-BAR Synthetic handle USMC
Justin Ranger [pick one - they are all great, though I REALLY like the afghan]
I see you're in my neck of the woods, so If you'd ever like to come check out my Hinderer Fieldtac, let me know and we'll see what we can arrange. Hope that helps! Best of luck - the serach for teh "perfect knife" never really does end, so We'll be seeing plenty of you around!
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Hey, I'm happy to have my bubble burst. I'd love a link with something comparable. I just think that there's a lot of folks who would be very hesitant to take a Busse to the limits given the cost as compared to something that's a 10th the cost. My point wasn't that you couldn't do it or that it doesn't happen. Just that I'd be willing to bet that you're gonna feel a lot worse pounding on a knife that expensive than you would pounding on something that costs less than $100.
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I figured you wouldn't be too upset. Becker guys seem pretty down to earth and seem to LIKE using knives. Don't get me wrong, I have faith in my 20 dollar ontario machete I modded up and made micarta grips for. I don't need any of my Busse choppers to go out and have faith. My main user Busse for chopping is a FBMLE, and your right, I would not hit concrete or steel with it on purpose without a good reason. I wouldn't do it with a 20 dollar machete either.
As for links, of course you have visited knifetests.com, we all have right? Thats where the destruction mess got going in the first place???
Check out the Busse forum.
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Yep, definitely seen knifetests. I'm not a huge fan of the sorts of tests they do. I like the threads I posted because the guy still uses it more or less like a knife (you know, for cutting stuff, albeit stuff that really shouldn't be cut by a knife), rather than banging on it with sledgehammers, and in general trying to break it in ways that you would likely never do to a knife. I'll futz around on the Busse forum and see what I can see. I was kinda hoping you'd encourage my laziness and post your favorite destruction test thread from there, but oh well. If/when I find one, I'll link it here for others like myself.
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Thanks! I found the second one, but not the first. Sounds like the OP has all kinds of options for knives that can do whatever is needed.
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It's a great thread to keep going though... correct me if I'm wrong, and I don't have any personal experience with this bad boy, but one of the most iconic armageddon knives on this forum is the Gossman Tusker, and I don't think I've seen it mentioned yet.
Fällkniven A1, :thumbup: , use it to open the gates of hell from the inside out.
Suberb survival knife, VG10 core, easy to sharpen, almost indestructible.
Also original lefthanded sheath from Fällkniven.
http://www.fallkniven.com/en
Simply the best!
Suberb survival knife, VG10 core, easy to sharpen, almost indestructible.
Also original lefthanded sheath from Fällkniven.
http://www.fallkniven.com/en
Simply the best!
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I have several customs that would fit the bill! Scott Gossman Big Boar Tusker, Horton Camp 2, Daniel Fairly .36 thick chopper, Bruce culberson bowie, Trace Rinaldi modified Armageddon and Bill Siegle 5/16 thick Bull Dozer. I use all of these and there is nothing they can not do
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