Mora needs to pay more attention to their quality control nowadays! It's gettingworse

I can understand the OP not being happy if quality gets sloppy, but Mora made their reputation on inexpensive knives that held great edges, so I feel that the OP should go an use this new one, then report back on how it performs, not on what it looks like.
 
It's a tool, that is meant to cut. If you want a piece of art, buy a custom piece of art.
 
Mora's with the exception of like one or two models are all under $20 bucks right? What the heck do you expect, you know at the very least the materials or the workmanship have to sub standard are they couldn't sell em for that cheap to begin with. Really, what do you expect for these days to be quality to begin with let alone something that cost $20 bucks, your talking Harbor Freight quality.
 
jimh0220 said:
Oh no, my $10 knife isn't perfect!!!!!! Waaaaaaaaaaa! Please:(
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"Oh No, I'm jumping on the bandwagon of bashing the OP for expecting that a $30 knife is of passable quality. Oh crap I'm a insufferable."

Interestingly this is more or less the same reaction I saw when I posted that my Spydercoo Manix 2 had an unveven grind. That's a $80 dollar knife. I was told in effect I would have to pay real money if I wanted something nice.

This is quite simply nonsense. There are companies that provide excellent quality, and very good fit, finish and quality control in knives costing under $30.

I'm formulating a theory, posts like the one I quoted above are generally made by people who've spent many hundreds of dollars on a knife and are seeking to assure themselves that that is the price you have to pay for quality.
Any report of quality issues with a less expensive knife is therefore not a real problem, but simple a reinforcement of their desire to believe that the only worthwhile knives cost upwards of $200.
After all, if they didn't then why did they spend that much?

There is a word for these people. That word is: "Wrong"
 
Joben said:
"Oh No, I'm jumping on the bandwagon of bashing the OP for expecting that a $30 knife is of passable quality. Oh crap I'm a insufferable."

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There is a word for these people. That word is: "Wrong"
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I disagree. I think there is a phrase for those people. It is "I'm not gonna get bent outta shape about an incredibly functional 15 dollar knife whose aesthetics aren't perfect. I'm just gonna go cut things with it and not worry about it."

Is that Mora 2010 an excellent quality cutting tool? Yes. Worrying about it being perfect visually, is, as you say, "utter nonsense." I mean, why not complain about how ugly the handle is while you're at it?
 
Well, the Mora was supposed to be a great value. Certainly not a great value without a good grind. The $20 knife maybe has become a $20 value.
 
David Metzger said:
Well, the Mora was supposed to be a great value. Certainly not a great value without a good grind. The $20 knife maybe has become a $20 value.
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I think that the "Great value" was always in the cutting performance and not so much in the grind liens (which does not affect cutting performance.)
And honestly, after using them for over 30 years, I don't see how their QC is slipping, its always been like this.
 
*soap box*
I know I am a newbie on these here forums, but I am not sure that mocking the OP for his opinion should be the way to go. I strongly feel that mocking someone for their opinion is a great way to have them not listen to you. They will in fact resist your point of view MORE than they would have normally. It is one thing to disagree, but I think we should do it in a respectful manner.

*steps off soapbox*

I think that when it comes to knives meant to use, the primary concern should be...does it do the job it was designed to do, and how well does it do it. Am I satisfied with the job it does, based on the amount of money I spent on the product? If I am not satisfied, were my expectations too high for the level of product I purchased, or was the product actually sub-par.

That is how I approach all of my tools.
 
Joben said:
"Oh No, I'm jumping on the bandwagon of bashing the OP for expecting that a $30 knife is of passable quality. Oh crap I'm a insufferable."

Interestingly this is more or less the same reaction I saw when I posted that my Spydercoo Manix 2 had an unveven grind. That's a $80 dollar knife. I was told in effect I would have to pay real money if I wanted something nice.

This is quite simply nonsense. There are companies that provide excellent quality, and very good fit, finish and quality control in knives costing under $30.

I'm formulating a theory, posts like the one I quoted above are generally made by people who've spent many hundreds of dollars on a knife and are seeking to assure themselves that that is the price you have to pay for quality.
Any report of quality issues with a less expensive knife is therefore not a real problem, but simple a reinforcement of their desire to believe that the only worthwhile knives cost upwards of $200.
After all, if they didn't then why did they spend that much?

There is a word for these people. That word is: "Wrong"
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you can't expect every single, budget or high value production knife to be perfect. some imperfections (most that don't really effect performance) will slip through the cracks. if you are truly unhappy with your product, contact the company and see if they will be able to make you happy. also, by directly contacting the company, you could bring possible production problems to their attention and they might be able to take steps to correct those imperfections. most people here don't have sympathy for you or the OP's plight because you are expecting regular, high volume production models to all be perfect. that is simply not realistic. if the function of the knife is effected, contact the store you bought it from or the company. i own and have encountered many high value budget knives that have excellent fit and finish, but if i should run into one that is slightly off (like having an uneven edge) i can either fix the problem myself or contact the company to have them fix it (within reason).

people who spend high dollar on top-end knives rightfully expect perfection. the high price is because of expensive materials, tight tolerances and high levels of scrutiny. makers of high-end knives can pay people to go over every knife and adjust, correct and reject any knife that's doesn't meet their high standards. it's nice to have, but you can't expect that level from a company that is mass producing thousands of knives that are budget oriented/high value. some will slip through the cracks. when a knife does slip through the cracks, you have to give the company or even the store your bought it from a chance to step up to the plate before whining about it.
 
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sooo with the uneven grind , how does it affect the cutting performance ?

Im actually seriously interested to know how indepth this review is going to go , from the starts of it , it looks like its going to be good .

I recently bought my first mora clipper , and find it to be serious value for money . I expect that kind of out of the box shaving sharpness from a knife 4x the price , and in genral performance , the knife seriously outperforms a lot of others I have had .

I kind of expect tho a defect or two in a knife selling for this price , I suspect that the unusual high standard Mora has , has actually spoiled a few customers of theirs :)
 
The fact remains, that there is simply no justifiable reason for the grinds to be asymetrical. These knives are mass produced in a factory with a quality control department, which apparently is not doing an adequate job as of late. What is next, poor heat treatment or handles coming off? The manufacturing cost of the knife is already set factoring in a functional quality control dept.
If I were managing the company and were aware of this discussion, it would result in a general manager's meeting with serious overtones. It should never have been necessary to discuss in the first place, had Mora's QC manager done his job properly. It's what he/she gets paid for.
Price point or function of the item notwithstanding, they should never have left the factory.
Allow me to illuminate the bottom line here...if the quality of a manufactured item slips, so then does potential sales. This is a large company with responsibilites to many interested financial partners, including the people who earn thier daily bread there. Less quality = less product confidence by the fickle public = less sales = less profit = unhappy shareholders = company sells or closes = starving people.
Basically, without attention to detail people starve to death. It's a matter of survival... and aren't these considered survival knives they are making? How ironic.
 
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I'm going to weigh in with the tiny, mocked 5% on this thread who do believe that basic quality control in a product made in 2011 with modern manufacturing methods should be better, not worse than what was offered in the past.

My Kershaw Clash was very cheap and it's a folder which is more complex that a fixed blade yet the quality is there. Why should we expect less from Mora?

Lower your standards and all that happens is that the manufacturers know they can cut even more corners next time around.
 
Arakiel said:
The fact remains, that there is simply no justifiable reason for the grinds to be asymetrical. These knives are mass produced in a factory with a quality control department, which apparently is not doing an adequate job as of late. What is next, poor heat treatment or handles coming off? The manufacturing cost of the knife is already set factoring in a functional quality control dept.
If I were managing the comapny and were aware of this discussion, it would result in a general manager's meeting with serious overtones. It should never have been necessary to discuss in the first place, had Mora's QC manager done his job properly. It's what he/she gets paid for.
Price point or function of the item notwithstanding, they should never have left the factory.
Allow me to illuminate the bottom line here...if the quality of a manufactured item slips, so then does potential sales. This is a large comapany with responsibilites to many interested financial partners, including the people who earn thier daily bread there. Less quality = less product confidence by the fickle public = less sales = less money = unhappy shareholders = comapany sells or closes = starving people.
Basically, without attention to detail people starve to death.
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I agree. Low price notwithstanding, if I can get an $8 SanRenMu folder with excellent fit and finish, why should I not expect a $20 fixed blade to come at least as good? I think that we have become too accepting of mediocrity and I support the opinion of the OP.
 
Arakiel said:
The fact remains, that there is simply no justifiable reason for the grinds to be asymetrical. These knives are mass produced in a factory with a quality control department, which apparently is not doing an adequate job as of late. What is next, poor heat treatment or handles coming off? The manufacturing cost of the knife is already set factoring in a functional quality control dept.
If I were managing the company and were aware of this discussion, it would result in a general manager's meeting with serious overtones. It should never have been necessary to discuss in the first place, had Mora's QC manager done his job properly. It's what he/she gets paid for.
Price point or function of the item notwithstanding, they should never have left the factory.
Allow me to illuminate the bottom line here...if the quality of a manufactured item slips, so then does potential sales. This is a large comapany with responsibilites to many interested financial partners, including the people who earn thier daily bread there. Less quality = less product confidence by the fickle public = less sales = less profit = unhappy shareholders = comapany sells or closes = starving people.
Basically, without attention to detail people starve to death. It's a matter of survival... and aren't these considered survival knives they are making? How ironic.
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we represent only a very small percentage of knife buyers, and out us, only a few people are reporting imperfections in their mora knives. i think you are jumping to conclusions talking about bad heat treats and handles coming off. i can't remember a single post in the past few years that someone complained about either of those problems (correct me if im wrong). you have to accept some imperfections to slip through the cracks in high volume production, shit happens. if mora's QC is 99.9% effective, 1 out of every thousand will be imperfect. did the OP complain that his knife doesn't work as it was intended? it seems to me that the few cases we see are pretty much cosmetic. think about how many thousands of people all over the world are happy with their mora's? did the OP give the store he bought the knife from or the company a chance to correct his unhappiness?
 
A.P.F. said:
I agree. Low price notwithstanding, if I can get an $8 SanRenMu folder with excellent fit and finish, why should I not expect a $20 fixed blade to come at least as good? I think that we have become too accepting of mediocrity and I support the opinion of the OP.
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I want to know if the OP is going to review anything else than a 2mm error in the grind
 
Deviltooth said:
I'm going to weigh in with the tiny, mocked 5% on this thread who do believe that basic quality control in a product made in 2011 with modern manufacturing methods should be better, not worse than what was offered in the past.

My Kershaw Clash was very cheap and it's a folder which is more complex that a fixed blade yet the quality is there. Why should we expect less from Mora?

Lower your standards and all that happens is that the manufacturers know they can cut even more corners next time around.
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I agree! I don't really know the responsibilties of QC in a knife factory, but I feel it's not an effective one if 60-70% of their knife products come out with uneven grinding!
Some companies can do a great job with their cheap knives, why can't Mora?
 
All the pieces I've received have been flawless. Granted, I haven't stocked any of the 2000's or the 2010's (the ones with the extra grind at the point like the OP's) so I can't speak for those models. It's surprising that a European country is able to put out such a high quality product for such a low price. It's not typical for us to associate the word "European" with "inexpensive." ;)
 
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