Mora needs to pay more attention to their quality control nowadays! It's gettingworse

Honestly, do you think they even look for minute cosmetic defects like that? What you have is probably the result of a shift of less than 1 degree. I imagine that while cranking out knives, the tooling eventually gets loose, and they have to tighten things up once in a while.

Before this thread, I noticed the grind on my Mora 511 and Finnish Lauri are not perfectly symmetrical. It bugged me for a minute until I realized I would never feel anything unusual while using the knife.

I can understand why the OP was bothered by his discovery, but I have to agree with the majority of replies that place more emphasis on function than appearance.
 
More worrying than the grinds being asymmetrical, it looks as if the blade spine is 'pinched' just to the left of changgong's green markers. As if it's ground too thin from each side. Would this not create a structural weak point?

I don't have a Mora 2000 to compare, but yeah it sucks if you spend good money and not receive what you were expecting. And obviously the OP had certain expectations based on his previous Mora purchase. Has something changed significantly in the knife's production, particularly with regards to the length? Was his first knife an unusually good example, or his second an unusually poor example? Are both within the normal range of production standards?

Yes, it's an inexpensive knife. But it stops being a good deal if the product is undesirable.
 
Joben said:
"Oh No, I'm jumping on the bandwagon of bashing the OP for expecting that a $30 knife is of passable quality. Oh crap I'm a insufferable."

Interestingly this is more or less the same reaction I saw when I posted that my Spydercoo Manix 2 had an unveven grind. That's a $80 dollar knife. I was told in effect I would have to pay real money if I wanted something nice.

This is quite simply nonsense. There are companies that provide excellent quality, and very good fit, finish and quality control in knives costing under $30.

I'm formulating a theory, posts like the one I quoted above are generally made by people who've spent many hundreds of dollars on a knife and are seeking to assure themselves that that is the price you have to pay for quality.
Any report of quality issues with a less expensive knife is therefore not a real problem, but simple a reinforcement of their desire to believe that the only worthwhile knives cost upwards of $200.
After all, if they didn't then why did they spend that much?

There is a word for these people. That word is: "Wrong"
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Good to see your drugs are working.... Mora makes great knives, frankly much better than their price would make you expect. I wasn't jumping on any bandwagon, but who the hell nitpicks a cheap knife's tiny flaws. If you want to critique the quality of a knife, have reasonable expectations for what you get. BTW, the op is not insufferable, just unreasonable. You, on the other hand, are insufferable...
 
timbit said:
*soap box*
I know I am a newbie on these here forums, but I am not sure that mocking the OP for his opinion should be the way to go. I strongly feel that mocking someone for their opinion is a great way to have them not listen to you. They will in fact resist your point of view MORE than they would have normally. It is one thing to disagree, but I think we should do it in a respectful manner.
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Yep, you are a newbie here. You post something ridiculous, you are open to bashing. Otherwise, don't post, and noone will ever bash you.
 
Arakiel said:
The fact remains, that there is simply no justifiable reason for the grinds to be asymetrical. These knives are mass produced in a factory with a quality control department, which apparently is not doing an adequate job as of late. What is next, poor heat treatment or handles coming off? The manufacturing cost of the knife is already set factoring in a functional quality control dept.
If I were managing the company and were aware of this discussion, it would result in a general manager's meeting with serious overtones. It should never have been necessary to discuss in the first place, had Mora's QC manager done his job properly. It's what he/she gets paid for.
Price point or function of the item notwithstanding, they should never have left the factory.
Allow me to illuminate the bottom line here...if the quality of a manufactured item slips, so then does potential sales. This is a large company with responsibilites to many interested financial partners, including the people who earn thier daily bread there. Less quality = less product confidence by the fickle public = less sales = less profit = unhappy shareholders = company sells or closes = starving people.
Basically, without attention to detail people starve to death. It's a matter of survival... and aren't these considered survival knives they are making? How ironic.
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Yep, I'm sure Mora knife mfgrs are in danger of going out of bix soon. They've only been making that same style of afforable (and yes, probably in rare instances, with flaws)knives for over 100 years. Even QC folks are human, no matter what they make.

Jim
 
jimh0220 said:
Yep, you are a newbie here. You post something ridiculous, you are open to bashing. Otherwise, don't post, and noone will ever bash you.
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Doesn't mean I am not right though. Respect should be paramount, it keeps things light and fun.
 
Arakiel said:
Hey Changgong123, how would you like a position in my QC department?
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Depends on how much you are willing to pay. :)The salary for a QC in Swedish factory will be around 5000 US dollar/month, besides, 40-50 days holiday with payment, free medical care and free education for kids. How about it?
I would say their salary is way more worthy for that job. Just check more oftenly to make the knives appear better, it's not that hard.

Why even some Chinese QC can do that with 500 US dollar/month, but Mora QC can't with 10 times payment?
I got 3 sanrenmu with $10-15 for each, all of them came with acceptable finish, as well as the steel quality!
Also it's not a good excuse to say the finish sacrifice for the steel quality!
 
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changgong123 said:
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Why even some Chinese QC can do that with 500 US dollar/month, but Mora QC can't with 10 times payment?
I got 3 sanrenmu with $10-15 for each, all of them came with acceptable finish, as well as the steel quality!
Also it's not a good excuse to say the finish sacrifice for the steel quality!
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I got the feeling SanRenMu would turn up sooner or later.
 
changgong123 said:
Depends on how much you are willing to pay. :)The salary for a QC in Swedish factory will be around 5000 US dollar/month, besides, 40-50 days holiday with payment, free medical care and free education for kids. How about it?
I would say their salary is way more worthy for that job. Just check more oftenly to make the knives appear better, it's not that hard.

Why even some Chinese QC can do that with 500 US dollar/month, but Mora QC can't with 10 times payment?
I got 3 sanrenmu with $10-15 for each, all of them came with acceptable finish, as well as the steel quality!
Also it's not a good excuse to say the finish sacrifice for the steel quality!
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just because you got a few sanrenmu's that were correct, means nothing. every company has a blem slip through from time to time, granted some more than others, but that's what a warranty department is for. mora has great reputation all around the world and have been in business for over 100 years, do you know why? because they produce very good products. why not return the knife if you aren't happy and either choose another or buy from a different store?

why are some people on here dense? out of the tens of thousands of blades produced by mora, one or two reports of cosmetic flaws (please correct me if i'm wrong) and people act like the company is in the toilet :confused: some people on here are ridiculous and delusional and this might be my last post in this thread because i am allergic to stupidity.
 
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the OP reviewed ...
that 80% of the knives he had to choose from had the 2 mm grind error ... and he chose one with the error ?
and that a lot of the sheaths were unormaly lose ...

I was hoping for a better quality review ... like , was the unormal fitting sheaths a problem , did the knives slip out or just have that annoying plastic rattle ( photos of blades stuck thru foot would be good here )
Also the difference in grinds , how do the bad blades perform compared to the good ones he coulda picked .

But no , just product bashing was all .. disappointing , what is happening to the quality of knife reviewer these days ?? need better QC here :)

1/2 kidding ...

Mora make a better knife than I can be stuffed making for the money ... and better quality than I can get from anyone else I know for the same dollar , and it comes with a factory edge I can use out of the box , no farting around putting my own edge on before I can use it .

OK the OP found a couple serious , even life threatening potentially , QC faults with this one , and not just this one but the box he looked thru , a majority of the knives had these faults ( unormaly lose sheaths combined with a deadly sharp blade can be an issue )

Who else can I buy from tho who makes a comparable product for the same dollar ? Serious question .
 
VetPsychWars said:
Has anyone handled the "Swedish Military" Mora that Sportsman's Guide is selling? Is it ok?
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I've had one for a few years. Used it in the kitchen as a utility knife. Works great -- thin, sharp, easily cleaned. Price was right, too. It is actually an ordinary Mora "Clipper" model, just produced with green handle and sheath.
 
Deviltooth said:
I'm going to weigh in with the tiny, mocked 5% on this thread who do believe that basic quality control in a product made in 2011 with modern manufacturing methods should be better, not worse than what was offered in the past.

My Kershaw Clash was very cheap and it's a folder which is more complex that a fixed blade yet the quality is there. Why should we expect less from Mora?

Lower your standards and all that happens is that the manufacturers know they can cut even more corners next time around.
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one of the main reasons high F&F knives are expensive is low demand. most people don't realize or care. We should expect mora to have even grinds and clean finish.
 
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A grind like that is something QC probably catches just about every time. One slipped past, I'm sure if the op contacted Mora about it they would gladly swap the knife for one with out issues.
 
It's a $20 knife, and for that price cutting is about all you can expect. I bought a 748 a few months ago, and it is truly a perfect knife. AMAZING sharpness, perfect blade finish, spectacular fit in the hand, and a very solid feel of the knife and sheath. My friend also bought a #1 (or #2, can't remember which one has no guard), and it was just as perfect (except the handle didn't feel as good) as my 748. Their QC isn't diminishing, just the unlucky people are speaking up.
 
Many Moras are in $10-$15 range, those knives are ok as long as they don't break. However, with the Bushcraft line Mora knives are now pushing into $30-$40 range. It's not ridiculous to expect even grinds on a $30-$40 knife. If Victorinox can produce near perfect knives for just as cheap, there's no excuse.
 
jimnolimit said:
do you really believe that every knife that leaves the victorinox factory is flawless?
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No, that's why I said near perfect. I own many of their knives, and as cheap as they are, I haven't found an uneven one. Their manufacturing quality is so high that if you find one item with sloppy workmanship, people are not gonna accuse you of whining over a $20 "user" knife, they'll just point you to Vic's warranty department.

Switzerland is a developed country, so labor isn't cheap. Despite that, Victorinox is able to make high quality products at very low prices. Unless you sell below Vic price point, there's no excuse for substandard quality.
 
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