Mora needs to pay more attention to their quality control nowadays! It's gettingworse

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No, that's why I said near perfect. I own many of their knives, and as cheap as they are, I haven't found an uneven one. Their manufacturing quality is so high that if you find one item with sloppy workmanship, people are not gonna accuse you of whining over a $20 "user" knife, they'll just point you to Vic's warranty department.
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do you know how many mora complaints i have read about on bladeforums in the past 2 years? only the one, we are writing in it (correct me if im wrong). this since when does one cosmetically flawed knife, out of tens of thousands made each year equal unacceptable? so if you happen to get unlucky next year and get a flawed victorinox, does that mean the company going down the toilet and their QC is no good? the OP didn't send the knife back to the seller or contact the company, he just posted a thread about it. people like you just keep chiming in about how unacceptable one reported blemish is, then throw in your 2 cents about how another company has better quality control.
 
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Is this thread still going? :)

Don't waste time emailing Mora. Phone up the UN.

The real question which everyone is afraid to ask is, "why doesn't Mora make a Smatchet!?"


Edit: Shoot, I wasted my 1200th post on a Noob's crazy questions.
 
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Erasmus said:
Is this thread still going? :)

The real question which everyone is afraid to ask is, "why doesn't Mora make a Smatchet!?"
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some people just aren't paying attention and i'm in the mood to steer them back to reality.

lol, as long as every smatchet has a perfect grind ;).
 
Please, don't buy another Mora. Buy a smatchet instead, the grind quality will not be uneven.

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jimnolimit said:
do you know how many mora complaints i have read about on bladeforums in the past 2 years? only the one, we are writing in it (correct me if im wrong). this since when does one cosmetically flawed knife, out of tens of thousands made each year equal unacceptable? so if you happen to get unlucky next year and get a flawed victorinox, does that mean the company going down the toilet and their QC is no good? the OP didn't send the knife back to the seller or contact the company, he just posted a thread about it. people like you just keep chiming in about how unacceptable one reported blemish is, then throw in your 2 cents about how another company has better quality control.
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PLEASE read before you reply. I said in the store, I checked 2 and half boxes of mora 2000 and most of them have this issue! There could be something wrong with there model! I don't know if you have a mora 2000, but I guess you can go to a store and see them yourself. AND it's really wise to call someone stupid if they have some opinion than yours!
 
changgong123 said:
PLEASE read before you reply. I said in the store, I checked 2 and half boxes of mora 2000 and most of them have this issue! There could be something wrong with there model! I don't know if you have a mora 2000, but I guess you can go to a store and see them yourself. AND it's really wise to call someone stupid if they have some opinion than yours!
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These issues are completely inconsequential when compared to the overall practical quality of these knives compared to the price. Do the world a favor, but those 2 and half boxes and sell each one, individually on an auction site...or here if you can...refer to this thread if you like...and I guarantee they will all sell. Better yet, buy the two boxes and rid the world of the scourge by sending them to me for disposal...slow tortuous disposal by running the edges up against stuff that needs to be cut. I'll be set for life and since they are "flawed" I won't care:D

Seriously, my Mora 2000 is more or less as you describe and I love it. I paid $20 for it.
 
jimnolimit said:
do you know how many mora complaints i have read about on bladeforums in the past 2 years? only the one, we are writing in it (correct me if im wrong). this since when does one cosmetically flawed knife, out of tens of thousands made each year equal unacceptable? so if you happen to get unlucky next year and get a flawed victorinox, does that mean the company going down the toilet and their QC is no good? the OP didn't send the knife back to the seller or contact the company, he just posted a thread about it. people like you just keep chiming in about how unacceptable one reported blemish is, then throw in your 2 cents about how another company has better quality control.
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You are replying, but I don't think you bothered to read my reply. I'll start over again, maybe this time you'll read it.

For $10-$15 Mora, a little scratch here and uneven grind there is not an issue. When they start selling models for 2-3 times that price (and enter Victorinox's price range), it is reasonable to expect more quality because I highly doubt a Mora 2000 costs that much more to make than a Clipper. The OP specifically complains about the higher priced model, yet people here are quick to label him a whiner.

You should also read the OP again. He said that only a couple out of the whole box is somewhat OK.

Really, read before you write angrily in defense of your beloved Mora. I have Moras and mine are OK, but I'm not so fanatic about them to refuse to believe their QC can slip.
 
Sep said:
Really, read before you write angrily in defense of your beloved Mora. I have Moras and mine are OK, but I'm not so fanatic about them to refuse to believe their QC can slip.
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I am not whom you're addressing above but I am in this thread. I am not suggesting that Mora can do no wrong CQ-wise...I've gotten a couple that weren't very sharp, rather uncharacteristic...I can assure you they are sharp now. What I am suggesting is that given what their knives are (inexpensive users) and who they're made for (everybody which for some reason happens to also include everything from guys who throw them away when they get dull to bone fide knife nuts), the folks at Mora really don't need to expend a lot of energy (=$$$) on a lot of detailed QC. Design it right, use good steel, make sure you manufacturing standards are good and are followed, stick that plastic handle on there good, and ship the thing out for $15 a unit. Rick Hinderer? Now he needs QC. ESEE? Let's spend some cash on QC. Spyderco? Yep...QC. Mora...not so much.

Now of course they could slip too far and nobody wants to see that. I was in Florida and hit bait shops and marina chandler shops and they had boxes of these cheap knives that for all the world looked like Moras. Nope, some cheap plastic knives for Mora prices with no edge...junk. They get down there. Having that silly grind on the 2000 un-even, don't sweat it.

Mora make no pretense to being anything they are not...good knives at a very low price.
 
changgong123 said:
PLEASE read before you reply. I said in the store, I checked 2 and half boxes of mora 2000 and most of them have this issue! There could be something wrong with there model! I don't know if you have a mora 2000, but I guess you can go to a store and see them yourself. AND it's really wise to call someone stupid if they have some opinion than yours!
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let me see if i follow, at the store, you checked 10-20 mora 2000's? and all were flawed, but you purchased one anyway?

there is nothing wrong with reporting an issue as long as your not trying to throw a reputable company under the "bus" because you got a cosmetically flawed knife.

Sep said:
You are replying, but I don't think you bothered to read my reply. I'll start over again, maybe this time you'll read it.

For $10-$15 Mora, a little scratch here and uneven grind there is not an issue. When they start selling models for 2-3 times that price (and enter Victorinox's price range), it is reasonable to expect more quality because I highly doubt a Mora 2000 costs that much more to make than a Clipper. The OP specifically complains about the higher priced model, yet people here are quick to label him a whiner.

You should also read the OP again. He said that only a couple out of the whole box is somewhat OK.

Really, read before you write angrily in defense of your beloved Mora. I have Moras and mine are OK, but I'm not so fanatic about them to refuse to believe their QC can slip.
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i'm not a mora fan-boy nor do i work for or own the company. i just don't like when people make negative assumptions or generalize a whole company, a company with a very good reputation because one person found a cosmetically flawed knife. mora is not selling people their knives, retailers are and a mora 2000 can be had for $25-$35 which is cheap for a good knife, a knife that's primary function is to just work. the OP said he looked at two and a half boxes of mora 2000's (which i have to assume is 10-20 knives) and he said they are all "off". if that is the case, i wouldn't have bought a mora 2000 and both told the retailer and emailed mora about what i found.
 
jimnolimit said:
let me see if i follow, at the store, you checked 10-20 mora 2000's? and all were flawed, but you purchased one anyway?

there is nothing wrong with reporting an issue as long as your not trying to throw a reputable company under the "bus" because you got a cosmetically flawed knife.
i'm not a mora fan-boy nor do i work for or own the company. i just don't like when people make negative assumptions or generalize a whole company, a company with a very good reputation because one person found a cosmetically flawed knife. mora is not selling people their knives, retailers are and a mora 2000 can be had for $25-$35 which is cheap for a good knife, a knife that's primary function is to just work. the OP said he looked at two and a half boxes of mora 2000's (which i have to assume is 10-20 knives) and he said they are all "off". if that is the case, i wouldn't have bought a mora 2000 and both told the retailer and emailed mora about what i found.
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"a reputable company" does ensure they don't make mistake! There is no none-flaw God-liking company. Don't you think more people know Toyota than Mora? Doesn't T have a longer history than M? They still may produce some cars which would kill you! So it's better just believe the brand when you suspect, or imagine if you want to say so, some problems and just keep shut as you wish?
When does the society do not allow consumers suspecting something?
And I recommend you just go to the store to see the mora2000 on your own. At least you may get some idea, as a "cheap factory-made, screwdriver-liking knife", how big box they could have.
I don't like argue and I don't know how it comes up. I'm not bashing Mora here and I'm also a fan of mora. Just want you to see what I saw, you can choose ignoring what I said. I'm not trying to convince anybody to give up this brand, anyway it's only one brand, not like microsoft! Want treat it as God, help youself.
 
changgong123 said:
"a reputable company" does ensure they don't make mistake! There is no none-flaw God-liking company. Don't you think more people know Toyota than Mora? Doesn't T have a longer history than M? They still may produce some cars which would kill you! So it's better just believe the brand when you suspect, or imagine if you want to say so, some problems and just keep shut as you wish?
When does the society do not allow consumers suspecting something?
And I recommend you just go to the store to see the mora2000 on your own. At least you may get some idea, as a "cheap factory-made, screwdriver-liking knife", how big box they could have.
I don't like argue and I don't know how it comes up. I'm not bashing Mora here and I'm also a fan of mora. Just want you to see what I saw, you can choose ignoring what I said. I'm not trying to convince anybody to give up this brand, anyway it's only one brand, not like microsoft! Want treat it as God, help youself.
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first, i'm having a hard time understanding your point (probably a language/translation problem).

second, i have never heard someone describe a mora as a "cheap factory-made, screwdriver-liking knife".
 
I picked up my first Mora @ SMKW, while there on vacation. I thought quality was excellent for $34. I have even batoned with mine & it still looks brand new & shiny (after some WD-40 to take off the tree sap & stuff. I was actually thinking: how can they sell such a high quality knife, a world away, for only $34. We all want perfection & i do understand that. I have some fine blades that are not perfect as well. Made in the USA to boot. Mine are all users. As long as they take a wicked sharp edge & are not unserviceable or a 2nd or blem, that somebody tried to pass off as 1st quality, i'm good with it. Gives em character. If it is really bothering you, take it back or send it back.
 
I love Moras. Their simplicity is their strength. Mine is not perfect, but I would definitely buy more.

For the price, you can't beat that with a stick... actually, you can. ;)
 
t1r2u3s4t said:
Where do you see Mora in store? In the US that is...
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Only in marine supply stores (at least in Seattle area). Apparent the master knife for commercial fishermen: Sharp, great grip, and if it goes overboard, not a big loss.
 
I think the OP point was not to compare Mora vs other brands, but rather old vs new Moras. I love Moras and I would be sad if the QC has gone downhill since the Eriksson/Frost merge. In my opinion, while Eriksson Moras are more substantial and outdoorsy, Frost Moras cuts better and more home friendly (probably attributes to the lack of fingerguards...). That said, from my experience, the new MOS Moras are better made and more polished than the Frost ones. Just look at the new SS Craftline Allround, what a bargain: same ergo as the Clipper but nicer blade, soft and stickier grip, much better sheath. I'd be very surprised if the new Mora 2000 is not as good...
 
t1r2u3s4t said:
I think the OP point was not to compare Mora vs other brands, but rather old vs new Moras. I love Moras and I would be sad if the QC has gone downhill since the Eriksson/Frost merge. In my opinion, while Eriksson Moras are more substantial and outdoorsy, Frost Moras cuts better and more home friendly (probably attributes to the lack of fingerguards...). That said, from my experience, the new MOS Moras are better made and more polished than the Frost ones. Just look at the new SS Craftline Allround, what a bargain: same ergo as the Clipper but nicer blade, soft and stickier grip, much better sheath. I'd be very surprised if the new Mora 2000 is not as good...
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I think the overall quality has gone up as well. That being said, Mora used to make a selection of higher end knives that they no longer do. My first knife was an Erickson that belonged to my grandfather. He had given it to my dad and he kept it in his toolbox--where I found it and made it mine. It had a laminated blade, double guard, ferrule, curly birch handle, steel pommel cap, and a pommel nut that screwed on to the end of the tang to keep it all nice and tight. The sheath had steel reinforcements like the Hanwei Rock Creek fixed blades do. The sheath was ruined and the blade pitted after it was stored sheathed in a damp basement. Though I had to toss the sheath, I restored the knife and I still have it. :)

I wish they still made one like it, but alas--no longer.
 
My old Opinel was better than my new one. My micrometer, microscope, and stethoscope all confirmed my suspicions. I don't care if it cost 19.00, I WANT PERFECTION...
 
Icecream was sweeter when I was a boy. Grass greener and sun brighter when I was 10. Last 30-35 years everything was just going downhill!
 
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