Moran Auction

Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

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I'm on my way up to Maryland this afternoon to attend the Bill Moran estate auction. Hoping to pick up some neat Moran items.I don't expect there will be any bargains,since this auction will bring out every deep pocket collector in the USA.I'll try to take some photos and post them Sunday,when I get back.
The auction link is here: http://www.rwilsonauctioneer.com/
Stacy
 
I've thought long and hard about going to this auction. Even though I'm nearby, I never had the priveledge of meeting Mr. Moran. I know some folks who knew him though, and something one of them said struck me when I mentioned the upcoming auction to him. The gist of it was basically "it was just a priveledge to know him, I don't need to go to any auction". I started thinking of all the stories I've heard about Mr. Moran, and it occurred to me that even though I never met him, his memory would be better served by learning the lessons he would have taught me had I known him rather than by having some trinket of his.

So, I think that instead of going to auctions tomorrow and Saturday I'll try and squeeze an hour or two out of my busy schedule and work on one of the 5 blades sitting in my garage right now.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with collecting things from people whom you admire. If I were more collector and less aspiring maker I'd likely have ben socking pennies away since the annoucement of the auction. This is just a personal decision for me rather than anything else. I just figured I'd say something here since there are folks here more likely to understand than anywhere else.

Good luck at the auction to those who are attending. Take lots of pictures if you can, I'd be really interested in seeing them.

Thanks for listening,

-d
 
I was under the impression that everything in his shop (shop included) was being preserved as a national landmark. :confused: Who is benefiting from the proceeds of the auction since he has no surviving relatives?
Scott
 
My treasure...

I was at the hammer-in in Old Washington in May of 2001. At the banquet that night, they auctioned off a copy of "The Iron Mistress". They passed a can around and you put your name on a 5 dollar bill. It was my 5 dollar bill that was drawn, the first thing I ever won! After the banquet, I asked B.R. Hughes and Bill to sign the inside cover. It is something I will treasure for the rest of my life.

Craig
 
He sure did have some beautiful pieces of furniture , some of those antiques are incredible ! I won't even mention the Blades of his. Those are, IMHO,Priceless. How about the carving on those "High Back Chairs"? I would give my eye teeth for one of his "Time Pieces" or one of his "Walking Staffs". He sure loved his Cowboy Style Hats Eh ? I'll bet IG is just drooling over that "Teddy Bear" , I can see it now , right between Helen & him in bed. ;) I'll bet Ray R. or Bill B. scoped that "Double Bit Ax" , that is a beauty . OK , how can you not mention the Blades , the last 20 or so pics contain what litterally is a small fortune worth of Moran Blades. I would go to that auction in a heartbeat if I were closer . Oh yeh , I forgot , $$$$$ , like the man said : " I'm so poor I can't even pay attention " For some reason I can't get that image of IG with "Teddy" out of my mind :) I am surprised Razorback , no surviving relatives ??? Have fun Stacy , if you have a couple extra $1000,s on ya pick me up that Gents Longines or one of those Pocket watches eh ??
 
Just got back in. The auction was fantastic. It was a little sad to see many of the last physical traces of Bill's life sold off.I purchased a lot of Bill's personal stuff. I now wear his sheepskin coat,have one of his watches, his monogrammed whiskey flask,his fishing rod,and many other personal items. I got a couple of hundred pounds of mixed steel types, Lots of curly maple, walnut,lignum vita,boxes of handles he had cut out and not used yet,his moose antlers,his Caulking vise ( a foot operated post vise),some of his project samples,some of his hand tools,Oh yeah.... 8 of his blades to finish and mount. I have all the materials to do the entire knives with everything coming from Bill's shop.

Raymond and Butcher Block,email me your shipping address.

The estate was set up to make the Frederick County Historical Society the beneficiary and to have a museum set up for Bill Moran and his shop. After too many problems they backed out of the deal. Since then a foundation has been set up by Jay Hendrickson,B.R.Hughes, and several of the other principal movers in the ABS to perpetuate the Moran shop and establish a museum in the county.The entire proceeds of the auction and the subsequent sale of the house will fund this foundation. More info on this will come soon.All of Bill's good knives,his shop,the main tools,and many of his most personal objects have been kept to display when the museum opens.

It was an honor knowing Bill and will be an honor to help continue his memory. I shot a lot of photos,and will post them after editing. I'll post pics of some of my new treasures,too.
Stacy
 
It was a little sad to see many of the last physical traces of Bill's life sold off.

I know what you mean , I had to watch the same thing happen with my wifes Grandfather ( my Buddy , my cross country skiing partner(into his late 80's) , local historian , and just plain old good guy )


bladsmth said:
I now wear his sheepskin coat,have one of his watches, his monogrammed whiskey flask,his fishing rod,and many other personal items. I got a couple of hundred pounds of mixed steel types, Lots of curly maple, walnut,lignum vita,boxes of handles he had cut out and not used yet,his moose antlers,his Caulking vise ( a foot operated post vise),some of his project samples,some of his hand tools,Oh yeah.... 8 of his blades to finish and mount. I have all the materials to do the entire knives with everything coming from Bill's shop.

Sounds like there were some good deals to be had.Was it like many had thought it would be "every deep pocket collector in the USA" ? Now lets talk about that watch :) Will you please post a pic of that ? I am seriously jealous of you on that catch ;) It sounds to me like you could almost start your own "Moran exhibit" with all the booty you brought home.Boy I sure wish I had lived a little closer for that one.Make sure you go out and catch at least one more fish with that pole too eh ?




bladsmth said:
It was an honor knowing Bill

Most Definitely !!! I'll bet it was !!! :thumbup:
 
The watch was one of Bill's day wear watches.Just a Timex. It was given to me by the person who bought several of Bill's better watches. I had given the lady a handle that bill had cut out and marked for drilling for a small Moran knife. She had purchased one of the unmounted blades (her husband will mount and finish the knife).I will clean the movement and put it in the case with the other Moran items.Over the past several years I have assembled a nice Moran collection of things he made,his original price sheets and catalogs,lots of photos,and other things. I have them in two display display cases that I take to shows and hammer-ins.They will be at the Dixie Classic Hammer-in in two weeks (Winston-Salem,NC)
There were some deep pocket people there. I sat next to one person who must have spent $30,000.00,maybe more. There was so much stuff for sale that there was something for everyone. Some items (even a box of items) went for $1,many for $5-15,Average lot was around $45. There was big money spent on the finished knives,from $1000 for a poor kitchen knife to $6500+ for a nice knife,The unmarked finished knives were better deals,ranging from $200 to $1000.The unfinished blades were the real deal. They went form $100 to $400,most around $200.
There were a couple of Ebay sellers there who bought every odd lot of "junk" stuff available (and some better things).Keep a check on Ebay for some Moran items to come up.
The trailer load of metal,some not made anymore, was sold in batches. The selling price was probably $.10 on the dollar or less of actual value.(But there was a ton of steel ). The wood took up half of a big auction tent. It was the best deal of the auction. You could get a 2-3" thick plank ,five feet long and one foot wide of Bill's select curly maple for $100. A shorter plank for $40. There were four HUGE planks of basswood for carving decoys.They were 6'X 10"X6" and went for $15 each.Bill wrote notes on lots of his wood,like - "cut here","very good", and dated most all of his planks as to when he put them up for drying (July 1985,etc.) He had drawn out the handle shapes he was going to cut on many smaller pieces.
A box of about 30-40 prime sambar stag crowns went for $300,all had been pre-worked by Bill and were ready to mount the blades.
There was a pallet of leather.Shoulder hides of tooling leather went for $40. Kudu hides for about the same.Boxes of leather pieces went for $10. Sharkskin hides for $50.
Unfinished walking sticks went for as cheap as $10-20,some nice ones a little more ,the finished and signed sticks brought $1000.
Bill had enough guns, ammunition, and reloading supplies to start his own army. I did purchase an antique long gun he was working on - I'll finish the restoration. I paid $25.It was found stuck up in the overhead rafters of the shop. I bough a box lot of misc. muzzle loader parts. In it was a cigar box that appears to be all the hardware for this gun ,paid $15 for the whole box. The cigar box was found tucked away in a niche,and hadn't been touched in many years. Kismet was that I bought the box of parts on Friday at the shop,and the gun on Saturday at the house.I think the reason it went so cheap was that the hardware was missing.).The prime guns brought $1000 or so. There were deals to be had,also - a nice double BBL damascus percussion shotgun went for $110. One weekend of cleanup and that buyer will have the keepsake wall-hanger of a lifetime.
Bill also had enough snuff ,pipe tobacco, and cigars to keep a small county in West Virginia supplied for a year (apologies to any WV readers).There were eight to ten unopened cases of Scotch Snuff, Two big cases of Borkun Riff pipe tobacco,Ten pound bags of pipe tobacco, boxes of cigars,etc.Also were several spittoons half filled with Bill Moran DNA .
I'll edit the photos this afternoon and post some later.
Stacy
 
Thanks for a great review Stacy.
It sounds like the auction of a lifetime for us knife knutts. I met Bill in Atlanta and took a short elevator ride with him. Great Man.
I would love to have his damascus shotgun.
 
I was going to wait a day or so, but what the heck.There are a lot of you that would like a little memento of Bill Moran.
I brought back a small box of Bill's coal (for the pot belly stove,not forging coal).
I also am going to cut a batch of his steel into foot long bars and give it away to those who would like to make a knife from some of Bill's steel.Yes it will be just steel,no different than anybody else's,but I would guess the finished products will be a matter of pride for those who make a knife from it.I will provide a provenance certificate with each piece.I have about twenty pieces of coal and I am going to cut twenty bars.Each bar will have a piece of coal with it.
Raymond,David,Bruce,Craig,Decker, and Butcher block get the first sets. I will send the rest to the first who post for them.I'll contact you for shipping addresses.This is my Christmas present to twenty of you.Bill always had the time to share and teach.This is a very small way I can return Bill's kindness and sharing.
Stacy
 
Stacy, I'm a perfectly green newbie, but I would be absolutely honored if you would include me in your offer.
-Mark
 
Stacy,

If you still have room on the list, please add me. Let me know what I need to send you for it.

I think you got an extremely neat haul. Wish I could have gone, quite a peice of history there.

Thanks,
--Carl
 
Stacy, I'd love to get a piece of that steel.
My best friend and I stopped by to see Bill a few years back and spent a delightful time learning wire inlay first hand. Bill even let us use, and then trace, his personal tools.
I would like to make myself, and my buddy,a small trout knife with wire inlay as a reminder of our visit. Thanks for the opportunity.
regards Donald Bell
 
Stacy, I hope I am on your list. I would love to make a knife from Bills steel. Ive been practicing my silver wire inlays too. Youre so generous!
 
A friend of mine went down....I couldnt go....but he asked if there was anything I wanted. I just got off the phone with him a little while ago. He got the item at the top of my list.........some curly maple. Then he told me he got some N.S. and some steel. So I got a knife kit from Bill's shop.:D Then he told me he got me a small box of Bill's fishing lures. I will for sure catch one more fish with those.;) I didn't know Bill very long, but I will never forget the conversations we had. I never got the chance to tell him how much he changed my life.....I wonder if he knew.
Mace
 
Stacy,
To many this may seem silly, but I'd like a piece of History to. I am a wood handle nut and any 1 piece of Bill Morans handle wood you could spair would go on a knife that I would add to my own collection.
Thanks
 
Mace, Bill probably knew how many people he influenced.His humility would not allow him to think about it though. He was just plain ol' Bill to everyone he met.There is a good lesson here - If someone has influenced your life,tell them now.You may not get the chance later.

I talked at length with an old time friend of Bill's (He was a few years younger than Bill,his brother went to grade school with Bill ). He told some stories of Bill and his "gang of ne'er-do-wells" and of all the trouble they could get into.Seems Bill was a pretty wild guy in his younger years. One of them made a cannon as a school project,Bill said ,"Let's see if it will really shoot." Bill got a can of black powder and loaded the thing. It went off like a bomb. It was a miracle that no one was killed.

Bill told me a great story about how the kind of hi jinx he and his buddies could get into. The three of then skipped school and went to play down in the woods and along the creek (and to check Bill's trap line ) Along the way they found an "unlocked" explosives shed.They took one short stick of black powder dynamite and a couple of feet of fuse. They went off to see what they could blow up.On the way they came upon one of Bill's traps that had a vulture caught in it. The thought struck Bill as to how interesting it would be to tie the dynamite to the vulture and let it fly away. They wrestled the bird down and released its mangled leg. Bill tied the dynamite to a piece of string and tied the other end to the birds leg. They set the fuse and light it,releasing the bird. All the poor beast did was squawk around on the ground in front of them.They started chasing the bird and finally it got airborne.With the weight and the bad leg it couldn't gain much height. Then they noticed that it was setting a course directly for one of the nearby houses,probably to roost and chew off the string.To make it worse, a woman was hanging laundry in the back yard. They couldn't decide what to do,so they did what boys do best - they hid in the grass in the field, and watched.Just as the bird came near the house the woman went inside,the dynamite exploded,the bird was vaporized,and the laundry was covered in red goo.No one ever figured out what caused that strange occurrence! Someone said that a vulture might have picked up a stick of dynamite and flew off with it. I wonder who came up with that theory?
Stacy
 
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