Most Massive Super Strong Folder?

precisionshootist said:
I'd love to have a T3. If I did I likely would not have posed this question. The ones I see for sale are usually in the $400 plus range and that's too high for a production knife. I actually want a super folder to use not for collecting or looking at. I'm pretty sure I will start with the Ontario Hossom Retribution 1. It seems to meet the strength requirements and has the opening hole which is a big plus since my EDC is always Spyderco. If I can find an Extrema Ratio RAO for a reasonable price I may go that route. I'm really liking the AD-10 if I could get one in a reasonable time and with a much bigger blade that may be the final solution.

Thanks for all the replies and feel free to keep them coming. As I said in my original post "am I missing something?". Clearly I was !! Thanks again.

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The Ontario Retribution 1 is a sweet folder! I have one and really like it. The thing is it doesn't come equipped with a pocket clip, and you have to use a sheath. There is a sheath supplied which is quite nice and heavy duty. The ends of the handles flare out in an east/west direction, sorta hard to tell from the straight on pics you see online, and this is why a clip will not fit this knife.

If you do not want sheath carry, and are handy with some simple tools, you can convert it to pocket clip carry. I did, and if I can, I figure most other "modders" can. Just a matter of sanding the grips relativity flat, getting rid of those handle flare really, and then installing a clip, which is what I did. At the time I did not have the drill bits (cobalt or carbide) and taps to put a pocket clip on, so just drilled the holes into the micarta, and filled the holes with JB Weld to hold the clip screws in. Been 3 years ago and it hasn't budged one iota! Pics are not too good, but here they are anyway;

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The most beastly, massive knife I own is my R Flaherty Model 1 frame lock. Makes the strider, or Umnumzaan I have look tiny! Best of all is his price, you could buy a few model 1's compared to a CRK or Strider! You can get one off the exchange here under custom knife makers if you are very quick and lucky! Lotts of times they sell the same minute they are listed!
 
I agree with Cutter 17, for the money its difficult to beat the Ontario Hossom Retribution 1. I've used mine for several years just as you would a fixed blade with zero trouble and it works as well today as the day it arrived. Great knife that never got the attention it should have.
 
I wouldn't say it's the most massive, but it definitely is super strong ::
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And as someone has already mentioned, check out Peter R. He's making some pretty beastly folders
 
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second direware, kincda obscenley strong.

hortons folders look pretty bombproof as well.

the extrema ration RAO was already mentioned.

grayman SATU

and the zt 301 is the budget beast

i really got nothing to add
 
Someone on here put a clip on their Hossom...I can't find that thread...but I swear it's on here.Lol really where did you get the clip?
 
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Here it is... Demko custom. You can't argue with the TriAd lock. Go Gators!

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singularity35 said:
So would you rank a ladybug to be the same strength as a ZT 301?
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For purposes of cutting, yes. Anything that a ladybug can't cut is suited for a fixed blade or a different tool (ladybug here is just an example, you can replace it with any reasonable folder like BM grip). I am not denying that a thick blade has more material strength, but my experience shows thicker blades are more prone to abuse (since you put it on a job it is not supposed to handle, like prying, or apply large amount of pressure you might not have applied on a BM Grip, or plain illusion!). Two pieces of steel can never be as strong as a single piece, no matter how strong the locking mechanism is. For me, if a job requires a blade thickness of more than 3mm, I use a fixed blade. But that's just me. :-)
 
singularity35 said:
So would you rank a ladybug to be the same strength as a ZT 301?
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So which is stronger? They can't be both equally strong.

choombak said:
For purposes of cutting, yes. Anything that a ladybug can't cut is suited for a fixed blade or a different tool (ladybug here is just an example, you can replace it with any reasonable folder like BM grip).
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Nah, that's just plain silly. It is obvious even just using your Mark 1, Mod 1 eyeballs which is more massive and stronger. While no folder is as strong as a fixed blade of the same dimensions, some folders are stronger than some fixed blades. You're just grasping at straws to justify an indefensible position. How can you even stand there and say a ladybug is as strong as a ZT 301?

Your argument that anything not suited to cut with a ladybug calls for a fixed blade is irrelevant because my point is that A ZT301 IS STRONGER THAN A LADYBUG. No matter how you look at that statement there are no two ways about that. Bringing a fixed blade into the discussion is just evading the issue.


choombak said:
I am not denying that a thick blade has more material strength, but my experience shows thicker blades are more prone to abuse (since you put it on a job it is not supposed to handle, like prying, or apply large amount of pressure you might not have applied on a BM Grip, or plain illusion!).
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That's not the fault of the knife, that operator error or Darwinism(you can take your pick). Besides prone to abuse or not is also irrelevant. The question the OP posed is " Most Massive Super Strong Folder?"

Some folders by build alone have got to me stronger that a ladybug. Again, the can't all be equally strong, some have got to be stronger than others.

Therefore is some folders are stronger than others, some have got to be the strongest.Which will therefore be the answer to the OP's question.


choombak said:
Two pieces of steel can never be as strong as a single piece, no matter how strong the locking mechanism is. For me, if a job requires a blade thickness of more than 3mm, I use a fixed blade. But that's just me. :-)
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all dimensions being equal a fixed blade is stronger but you can't just make a sweeping conclusion because for sure a Demko AD-1 custom would be stronger than your steak knife.
 
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Maddogg774 said:
Someone on here put a clip on their Hossom...I can't find that thread...but I swear it's on here.
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Maddogg. I did it. Look at post #42 of this thread and see the blurry pics of it. I did make a thread but it's way back I guess. Same blurry pics as you see here.
 
I think the " get a fixed blade" people need to stay out of these threads period.
 
I think that when you mention super strong/massive/huge/best lock and apply that to a folder, you get a particular reaction. You get names, descriptions, pics of some nice folders, and you get the "use a fixed blade" responses. I think it is just human nature to get both responses. But I agree that it should be about folders as the op asked, and if you cannot respond with a folder suggestion, it might be best to just read, and not respond.
 
andybglr said:
I've got a Lone Wolf T3, and that is a big, solid folder. I really like it, but they are a little hard to find, though. The Benchmade Rukus is about the same size. The Grayman Satu seems like a good option, too.
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I completely forgot about the Rukus and you are correct, incredibly strong folders and at one time you could purchase these for less than $200.00
 
Three Sisters Forge are pretty darn chunky and bullet proof. I like TSF because they have a classic pocket knife look... but with all the bells and whistles of modern materials and design.


Here is a pic of a custom double textured Superbeast I got coming from Jim this week...

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