Most over-rated production knife brand?

Bronze Age Man said:
Grohmann knives make the D.H.Russell belt knife along with others. I visited their factory and bought 3 knives. The belt knife is really a rounded steak knife worth $10 they charge $100.
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Mine had a sharp edge and a point...no rounded steak knives to be had when I was buying...
 
lemonslush said:
Chris Reeves! (hey we got $400 knives, but you cant flick them open cause they will break....cause they are $400....and flicking them open breaks them...cause they are fragile...cause $30 knives are find but our superior $400 knives cant take it.)
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Do they actually tell you no flicking
 
lemonslush said:
Chris Reeves! (hey we got $400 knives, but you cant flick them open cause they will break....cause they are $400....and flicking them open breaks them...cause they are fragile...cause $30 knives are find but our superior $400 knives cant take it.)
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Are you seriously that ignorant or are you trolling?

First of all, it's Reeve, not Reeves. More to the point, he never said flicking will break them. What he said was, if you send one in for warranty work and he sees the knife has been repeatedly slammed open, with hard inertial force, to the point it damages the metal, he won't consider it covered. If you can't tell the difference, you have a lot to learn.
 
No kidding, and the Chris Reeve unboxing threads!

Look, look, I have a new Sebenza; it's grey too but a different new grey than the others that doesn't show up in pictures.

It's like a live stream of a convention of Ned Flanders cosplayers with around table on drinking warm water thrown in for good measure.
 
mogmz said:
Emerson. I've owned a couple- love the blade shapes, love the grinds, love the wave, love the handle ergos, hate hate hate their weak liner lock they use being "The #1 hard use knives in the world".
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They're titanium liners... I don't think its even possible for a human being to break a well made titanium liner. Hell, we don't even have the strength to break a steel liner thats made correctly. I don't know what the huff is about liner locks not being strong. If they're made correctly it takes incredible pressures to cause them to fail.

just my 2cents.
 
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stonproject said:
They're titanium liners... I don't think its even possible for a human being to break a wrll made titanium liner. Hell, we don't even have the strength to break a steel liner thays made correctly. I don't knoe what the huff is about liner locks not being strong. If they're made correctly it takes incredible pressures to cause them to fail.

just my 2cents.
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Please define incredible pressures. In all of the testing I've seen liner locks have consistently failed at forces achievable with a vice and bare hands.
 
lemonslush said:
Chris Reeves! (hey we got $400 knives, but you cant flick them open cause they will break....cause they are $400....and flicking them open breaks them...cause they are fragile...cause $30 knives are find but our superior $400 knives cant take it.)
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DPC said:
Steel kills them, and I can't understand why they dont change it, because Bill Harsey is a damn good designer and an otherwise 9/10 (at least) knife like the Pacific goes to waste.

Also I'm guilty of using a CR mainly, despite its flaws.

I only have fixed blades though.
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Danke42 said:
No kidding, and the Chris Reeve unboxing threads!

Look, look, I have a new Sebenza; it's grey too but a different new grey than the others that doesn't show up in pictures.

It's like a live stream of a convention of Ned Flanders cosplayers with around table on drinking warm water thrown in for good measure.
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And so it begins...
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Please define incredible pressures. In all of the testing I've seen liner locks have consistently failed at forces achievable with a vice and bare hands.
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Well, some support 200 pounds.
That's a fair bit of pressure...I weigh 180 these days, so I couldn't defeat a well-made one with full body weight.

300 pound muscle-monsters may require a stouter lock. :D
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Please define incredible pressures. In all of the testing I've seen liner locks have consistently failed at forces achievable with a vice and bare hands.
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Using a vice grip to aid in the failure. Is it possible to achieve that type of force in a normal situation that you'd be using a knife in?

by incredible pressures, I mean in terms of what a knife should be used for.
 
^Andrew demko has designed more than one good lock. Watch vinninull testing videos and see what holds up and what doesn't.

Granted he abuses the hell out of knives, I consider it informative and entertaining. I like seeing where the limits are on "hard use" knives.


Edit to add: Damn it too slow and now the post is lost in the sauce lol
 
stabman said:
Well, some support 200 pounds.
That's a fair bit of pressure...I weigh 180 these days, so I couldn't defeat a well-made one with full body weight.

300 pound muscle-monsters may require a stouter lock. :D
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Weight vs torque, though. I'm betting at 180 you can still apply far, far more pressure than that, even with a bad back.

Honestly, I think a well done liner lock is plenty strong enough, but to say it will withstand incredible pressure is a bit of a crock.
 
stonproject said:
Using a vice grip to aid in the failure. Is it possible to achieve that type of force in a normal situation that you'd be using a knife in?

by incredible pressures, I mean in terms of what a knife should be used for.
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So normal pressures. Which, by definition, aren't incredible.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Weight vs torque, though. I'm betting at 180 you can still apply far, far more pressure than that, even with a bad back.

Honestly, I think a well done liner lock is plenty strong enough, but to say it will withstand incredible pressure is a bit of a crock.
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See my follow up post, incredible pressure in terms of what a knife is used for :)
 
ebidis said:
And so it begins...
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Well there's not much more to say that what has already been said time and time again, but it isnt less true for that.

I speak from experience (not just from two famous tests) when I state I dont think their steel matches their name. For such a big name in the industry I wisn they used a better steel or just a better treatment, because my Chris Reeves dont perform as well as other knives I own under stress, which leaves at least one of them (my Pacific) behind other similar knives in its category, which is a shame because it's a solid design.

Quite honestly, if I didnt like them so much I wouldnt comment on them because I wouldnt care.

Relative to this thread though, I honestly think Chris Reeve knives are not as overpriced as other brands in relation with what you get, because finish is perfect and Gunkote excellent.
 
In that case a knife doesn't even need a lock, does it?

Slip joints are used for cutting(what knives are used for) and require no lock at all.

Liner locks, especially thin ones slip under shock more than other lock types. When a company markets a knife as a self defense tool more than just cutting comes in to play, and the stronger the lock the better your fingers will be.

While scuffling with an attacker negative pressure may come from a variety of ways. The ability of the lock to take these unforseen pressures is key.
stonproject said:
See my follow up post, incredible pressure in terms of what a knife is used for :)
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