Moved from General Knife Discussion: Gil Hibben is selling his latest Rambo knife.

Well, Monocrom discovered that when you show pictures of a knife that was designed to look homemade to the ignorant, they think it looks homemade. Of course everybody knew that in the first place.... :rolleyes:
 
I have to say, I have seen some of the most narrow minded, short sighted, ignorant posts that I have encountered on Bladeforums, posted in this thread. It has been a real eye opener.
 
Guys, if you follow the link Monocrom posted please do not post anything rude on CPF. The forum that thread is in is much more civilized than TGB&U and they didn't know what Monocrom's agenda was. Please don't embarrass me and Bladeforums.
 
Cougar Allen said:
Well, Monocrom discovered that when you show pictures of a knife that was designed to look homemade to the ignorant, they think it looks homemade. Of course everybody knew that in the first place.... :rolleyes:
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Wow. Who would have thought such a conclusion would come about from an established group of knife collectors. We are the presence of obvious brilliance and knowledge. So much so that they think they know the best design and source for a movie knife and so much so that they know how an established knifemaker with a sterling reputation should conduct business. :eek:

Next idiot please. This one has made his point. He stands on water.
 
Cougar Allen said:
Guys, if you follow the link Monocrom posted please do not post anything rude on CPF. The forum that thread is in is much more civilized than TGB&U and they didn't know what Monocrom's agenda was. Please don't embarrass me and Bladeforums.
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My agenda was to prove that, even to a blind man, it looks like a well-used machete. I believe I was successful in that endeavor. And wow! .... The members of that "other" forum had fun. Go fig. :D

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To: MisterSat-

If the pic is indeed copyrighted, I will be happy to remove it. (After all, it's not like I can't replace it with a pic of an actual, used machete). But, until then; all I owe you is a mention in the thread that you were the one who took the pic. When I followed the link in the very first post, there was no indication of copyright on the small pic, or on the larger one after clicking on the small pic. I only covered up Mr. Hibben's name because I wanted comments on the knife before revealing who made it. In the process, I covered up your name as well. Sorry about that. Like I said PM me the proof that it's copyrighted, and I'll remove it.
 
Bastid said:
Next idiot please. This one has made his point....
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Oh sorry folks, I almost logged out before giving Bastid the attention he so desperately needs.

So.... Cheap shot formally acknowledged.

Feel better? I thought you would.;)
 
Monocrom said:
To: MisterSat-

If the pic is indeed copyrighted, I will be happy to remove it. (After all, it's not like I can't replace it with a pic of an actual, used machete). But, until then; all I owe you is a mention in the thread that you were the one who took the pic. When I followed the link in the very first post, there was no indication of copyright on the small pic, or on the larger one after clicking on the small pic. I only covered up Mr. Hibben's name because I wanted comments on the knife before revealing who made it. In the process, I covered up your name as well. Sorry about that. Like I said PM me the proof that it's copyrighted, and I'll remove it.
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Monocrom, I see you need to do a little more homework. I suggest you look up copyright. Every original work (art, photographs, writing, music) created since April 1, 1989 is automatically copyrighted by the author and/or owner. Copyright notice is not required since it is to be assumed. Copyright holders can further protect their work and make prosecution of violation easier by registering their copyrights, which I do on a regular basis. Nor does giving the author credit have any bearing on the matter if the author/owner has not granted you permission to use the material. The only time I need to prove ownership is in court. It seems that ImageShack understands that.
You might want to read this: http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

Sorry to go off topic folks.
 
Monocrom said:
Well..... Here are the results of the promise I made to ask others on a completely different forum, what they thought of Mr. Hibben's movie knife. (Without mentioning price, or the fact that it was indeed made by a Master BladeSmith).

The results were rather interesting. With the most interesting aspect being that, unlike this one, everyone actually had fun with the thread! (What a concept)! :D

Those of you would like to check out the results, here you go....
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=181321
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An absolute classic act of TROLLING!!!

I loved the comments like "I could make one like that". Heck, there are many knife makers that can make a knife to look exactly like Loveless made it or Scagel made it. The only small problems I see is that those who could "make one like that" could only sell their knife for peanuts compared to what the two mentioned could get.

Why go to a flashlight forum and spew crap like the opinion should be based on human observation when your intent was to get as many folks as you can to agree with you that the knife looks like a POS? Humans make human observations so maybe to get a more validated set of opinions you should have asked they give troll like opinions. Gil was asked to make it look homemade, that point has been made over and over again. Yet, you felt the need to go to CPF to get the opinion of flashlightknuts about a knife? What's next, you going to visit the senior citizens Bingo players forum and ask them? Their opinions would certainly be gospel, huh. :rolleyes:

The thread at CPF was fun because for you; Trolling is fun, that's why.
 
i followed the link, and read that thread.

monocrom, gil hibben didnt make the first two rambo knives, jimmy lile did. it lends to credibility to have and give the correct information.

it might not be trolling to start the thread there in the other forum. but it is trolling to post the link in this forum.

why would you ask flashlight afficionados to give their opinion of a knife? especially after all that has gone on here regarding said knife. you can claim you had no agenda, but it would seem clearly you do.

"see....these other guys say it looks like a lawnmower blade too..."


most of the posters in that thread admittedly know little about knives, and asked honest questions. only a couple "had fun" with it, making jokes.
 
Truth is, I honestly don't care what you guys think of me.

When I first came to BF, this was a fun place where you could speak openly & honestly. And it was cool because no one took cheap shots at you for doing so. Sometimes the discussions got a bit heated. But nothing too extreme. You knew what to expect, and you gave as good as you got.

That was then.... But when the nonsense and the egos started overflowing, it became a bit much. To put it mildly.

To those who think I'm a troll, meh; I couldn't possibly care less. And I truly mean that. I've been on CPF long enough to have earned the respect of the Regulars on that site. Not exactly something that a troll would be capable of. It's a great community that, ironically, a significant number of BFers belong to as well. But, I guess it really wasn't fair of me to shatter the delusions that other BFers had. Who was I to point out that Mr. Hibbens knife looks like a used machete. I guess I should have played pretend too, and said that it looked like the $1250 custom knife that some said it is.... Yeah, I'm a bit too old to play pretend.

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To: MisterSat-

It's funny, had you just mentioned the pic is copyrighted and politely told me you wanted it removed; I would have done so. I really am a nice guy. Thing is, we both know you were "less" than polite when you came to CPF. And I tend to act like a mirror, reflecting people's behavior. The pic from the thread was removed, but took a bit of effort of your part, didn't it? That could have been avoided. Still, I have no ill will towards you. I just hope you don't act like an ass on a regular basis.
 
We are in the midst of brilliance. (That was not a cheap shot it was reflective of what you have posted here.)

Wow. Who would have thought such a conclusion would come about from an established group of knife collectors. We are the presence of obvious brilliance and knowledge. So much so that they think they know the best design and source for a movie knife and so much so that they know how an established knifemaker with a sterling reputation should conduct business.

Next idiot please. This one has made his point. He stands on water.
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Let me review your ignorant findings.

1. The knife is ugly.
2. You know what a movie knife should be.
3. You know how a maker with decades of a sterling reputation should conduct business.

My hero of ignorance. You are being treated here the way you are due to your actions and what you have posted which malign the work of a good man.
(Of course I do not expect you to be able to understand that.)
 
BTW.
Quit fooling yourself. There is nothing "nice" or "intelligent" that you have posted in this thread. There is a lot of ignorance and trolling on your part.
You can take that as a cheap shot, those who know better can take it as the truth and you are standing on nothing but your ignorance and willingness to wallow in it.
 
monocrom, lets see what kind of knife you can come up with if you arent happy with what gil made. i'm sure you can make one that will fetch $12.50 easily :D. lets see you make one that will sell for $1.200:p
 
Monocrom, as I have stated previously, there is nothing wrong with thinking that the knife does not meet your expectations of a $1250.00 knife. I personally wouldn't spend anywhere near that kind of money on it either. However, there is no need for anyone that doesn't know the least bit about Gil Hibben, or why the knife was made the way it was, to voice ignorant opinions about the maker himself. People that do that are just looking to try to tear the maker down, because they have fun doing so. That is the kind of fun that makes the people doing so look like idiots.
 
Well, I just read the thread on the "completely different forum".

It's good to know that Monochrom does not behave rudely only on Bladeforums, it seems rather a general practice of his.

Let me see if I can sum this up: Monochrom is busy posting (wherever he can) his opinion that Gil Hibben should have turned down this commision---and has made an inferior product (at least, inferior-looking)--simply for money. The implication is that Gil Hibben has sold out.

Since this idea was met with derision here on Bladeforums, Monochrom has decided to make a fool out of himself on a site that he still regards as a "fun" place.

Considering the lack of civility of your behavior, Monochrom, coupled with your oft-stated opinion that Bladeforums is no longer any fun for you--allow me to offer the the suggestion that you find a place that is still fun for you. We wouldn't wish you to be unhappy. I could also express the hope that the door doesn't bang you in the ass on the way out, but that would be rude.
 
I don't know what Monocrom is referring to when he calls Mr. Hibben a Master Bladesmith. It can't be that he is an ABS Mastersmith, because he isn't. My guess would be that it is a reference to Gil being an accomplished knifemaker.
 
i finally went to the other site since i needed a good laugh and read some of what was posted. i have to agree with shaldag 100% on monocrum being rude no matter where he is. i also agree 100% with wolfmann601 on him being a troll. i could see posting a pick of a "light sabre" in a flashlight forum but a knife? get real :rolleyes:. :thumbup: to cougar for informing the uninformed of what was going on.
 
Monocrom said:
(Without mentioning price, or the fact that it was indeed made by a Master BladeSmith).
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And by concealing that, you slanted the results enough to make it useless.

What makes this knife valuable is not the steel or the design, it's the combination of the collector desire for of works made by that maker, the tie-in to an EXTREMELY popular movie franchise, their limited edition status and association with the name of the star and the character.

Remove any/all of that information from the mix, and the results are not valid.

A Colt 1873 SAA may be worth 2,000, a 1 of 100 Limited Edition exact replica of the 1873 SAA carried by John Wayne in many of his movies may be worth 5,000, while THE actual 1873 SAA carried by John Wayne in most of his movies may be worth 100,000.
 
Flaunting your ignorance and useless points about this knife and the maker convinced many of us long ago that you did not care what was thought about you.

Like I said. Next idiot please. This one would rather wallow in arrogance and ignorance while maligning a maker and a knife made for a movie. Reason and logic are no match for a desire to remain arrogant and ignorant.

Not a cheap shot, just a fact that you have lived up to.
 
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