Moved from General Knife Discussion: Gil Hibben is selling his latest Rambo knife.

Hard H2O said:
Has a maker ever declined a custom order or a customer request due to the materials requested, style requested, design criteria...?
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I've had two occasions where a maker declined my request to make a knife. one was because he wasn't comfortable with the style I wanted, and the other was because of the materials that I requested.
 
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I have some suggestions for the DVD edition. (Lucas is changing his old movies all around for the DVD edition, why can't Sly....)

Insert some extra scenes after Rambo finishes making the knife. First, he is dissatisfied with the wrapped handle, so whatever plot is going on gets put on hold while he goes on a quest for the most beeeaaauuutyyyyyyyful wood in the jungle. First he cuts down a tree (the original handle is good enough for that), chops it to pieces, carves it, polishes it, looks at it -- not beautiful enough. So he cuts down a different kind of tree ... weeks go by ... he cuts down one of every kind of tree in Burma ... finally he finds the most beeeaaauuutyyyyyyyful wood in all Burma and makes a handle out of it.

Then he builds a live trap and catches a gerbil alive. He sets the gerbil to run on a wheel that turns a pulley that turns a buffer. He buffs the blade of his knife until it's all shiiiiiiinnnnneeeeyyyyy.

There will have to be a new tie-in knife. Don't have Gil Hibben make this one; he charges too much. Find somebody who's willing to work for minimum wage. It doesn't matter if the knife is any good, as long as it's shiiiiiiinnnnneeeeyyyyy and doesn't cost too much the experts who have posted in this thread will be happy to buy it.
 
Just to add a bit of perspective to the thread; I was in a Movie/music collectible store in Downtown Disney back in october. This place had autographed guitars, records, autographed Sgt. Pepper Jackets, etc. There was a prop from the Harry Potter movie on the wall. It was the knife used by "Wormtail", came with a cert. of auth, a nice frame and poster. The knife was WOOD. Not steel, not metal, not even plastic, but WOOD. It wasn't even nicely finished wood, it looked like a branch I'd find in my yard, shaped with a rock, and painted with whatever was in my garage.

Asking price, $1750. Thats for a piece (maybe POS is better)that has NO real world use, no real labor to make, and doesn't even carry the value of the materials used. Hibbens piece could be used, and probably used very hard if one so desired. If things collapsed in the world, it would be usable or at the least worth whatever the steel is worth. A peice of wood on the other hand, is good for about 5 minutes of small flame.

SO why should Mr. Hibben's work no be worth at LEAST what a hunk of wood is being sold for?

I can throw paint at canvas and call it art, and be lucky to get $5 for it. If Jackson Pollock does it however.....
 
SO why should Mr. Hibben's work no be worth at LEAST what a hunk of wood is being sold for?
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Because the ignorant say so and stand by what they say. :D.
 
Why did they need a real knife maker for this?

Why didn't they just use a propmaker?

I wish I had the deep pockets of Hollwood. I would run my business and not worry about the price of materials and labor.

I am sorry. I should have selected a better descriptor than POS.
 
Who figgin' cares.

I am just glad a maker the likes of Gil has positioned himself to be able to do it and I do not understand how anyone with a clue could feel otherwise.

Just does not make sense, but the clueless are everywhere.
 
Hard H2O said:
Why did they need a real knife maker for this?

Why didn't they just use a propmaker?
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My guess is if Stallone weren't a knife knut he probably would have just had the prop department come up with something. It wouldn't have saved any significant amount of money, though. Propmakers are not cheap, anything handmade to $pecification$ co$t$ money, and a couple of hundred buck$ more or less for one of the props is not going to make the difference between making a profit on the movie and going broke.
 
I would bet my socks that if it had gone the other way a lot of these same people would be laughing at what ever the prop people came up with and saying "why didn't they get a real knifemaker?"

The knife has always been an integral part of the Rambo movies and part of the character. It is important to Stallone at least. (Rambo did not have a knife in the original book written by David Morrell.) So it follows that Stallone, who knows knives, and want's his character to have a really special knife, would seek a top knifemaker.
 
I think the knife is I practical design for the move setting. (jungle) I think that is the problem most people are having with it they wanted more fantasy and less practical like the knives on the previous Rambo movies.Is it work $1250 well I am no expert but I would think that knife in that steel made by another lesser known maker would run at least $500 add in it being made by a legend and the Rambo tie in yeah I think it would be worth it to certain collectors as an investment.
 
BaliLover said:
**Snipped Just to add a bit of perspective to the thread;

I can throw paint at canvas and call it art, and be lucky to get $5 for it. If Jackson Pollock does it however.....
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Picasso can throw paint at canvas and it would sell for 5 million. Wm. Scagel could have made a knife with a deformed blade and it would sell for 5 figures.

You could throw paint and all it would be is thrown paint at a piece of cloth

Gil Hibben is an artist. Like Picasso, some people find it ugly and no where near what it is worth while others pay a premium.

It is up to the eye of the collector
 
wolfmann601 said:
Picasso can throw paint at canvas and it would sell for 5 million. Wm. Scagel could have made a knife with a deformed blade and it would sell for 5 figures.

You could throw paint and all it would be is thrown paint at a piece of cloth

Gil Hibben is an artist. Like Picasso, some people find it ugly and no where near what it is worth while others pay a premium.

It is up to the eye of the collector
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I hope you didn't interpret my post as an insult, it merely stated what you just stated in a shorter form. For those that don't know, Jackson Pollock was a famous artist who's work really was him throwing paint at a canvas. You can see examples here: http://www.jacksonpollock.com/art.shtml

The work of an artist, master, or even celebrity will always be worth more simply due to the collectability of the item in question.
 
BaliLover said:
I hope you didn't interpret my post as an insult, it merely stated what you just stated in a shorter form. For those that don't know, Jackson Pollock was a famous artist who's work really was him throwing paint at a canvas. You can see examples here: http://www.jacksonpollock.com/art.shtml

The work of an artist, master, or even celebrity will always be worth more simply due to the collectability of the item in question.
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He didn't just throw the paint. He artfully dripped it as well.
 
Me insult you?


It is OK for you to chuck insults, why would it be wrong for others

NOW, stop reading into my posts, if I am going to insult you there will be no freaking question........NONE!!!!!
 
I can't believe people here suggested Stallone should have gotten the prop department to make the knife!?!? The knife IS Rambo! And have you all forgotten all of the amazing knives Gil has made for Star Trek? Unbelievable.
 
Well..... Here are the results of the promise I made to ask others on a completely different forum, what they thought of Mr. Hibben's movie knife. (Without mentioning price, or the fact that it was indeed made by a Master BladeSmith).

The results were rather interesting. With the most interesting aspect being that, unlike this one, everyone actually had fun with the thread! (What a concept)! :D

Those of you would like to check out the results, here you go....
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=181321
 
Monocrom said:
Well..... Here are the results of the promise I made to ask others on a completely different forum, what they thought of Mr. Hibben's movie knife. (Without mentioning price, or the fact that it was indeed made by a Master BladeSmith).

The results were rather interesting. With the most interesting aspect being that, unlike this one, everyone actually had fun with the thread! (What a concept)! :D

Those of you would like to check out the results, here you go....
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=181321
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First, why should I bother reading your posts in another forum when you obvoiusly never bothered to read the posts in this one.

Secondly, I don't recall giving you permission to alter and/or post my copyrighted photograph in another forum and I suggest you remove it.
 
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