My Grail has arrived!(Para2 in S90V and CBF)

May I ask where you got it? I have one on order from knife center, and I'm dying to get it. They claim that I ordered in time, but who knows if Spyderco will be able to fill all their orders, or when that could be. I hate this part of the game.
 
grizzled gizzard said:
May I ask where you got it? I have one on order from knife center, and I'm dying to get it. They claim that I ordered in time, but who knows if Spyderco will be able to fill all their orders, or when that could be. I hate this part of the game.
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I hope KC get's their order in, I have a preorder as well. I think I read that Spyderco shipped more out this past week (Wednesday I believe). KC should be shipping early next week that is if the sprint is included in there. One other person stated in another thread that KC charged their card for this one.
 
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vicious00machete said:
S90V and carbon fiber handle sound nice on paper , but in reality it means nothing
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I just gotta call you onto the carpet over that statement, VM. Why do S90V and carbon fiber mean nothing? I think that a lot of owners of S90V CF Military knives may have a different opinion.
 
Congratulations man! That is one beautiful knife. I'm in for two of the CTS-20P versions. I hope the performance is close to that of S90V. I own a Manix 2 in the XHP steel and love it so I am highly optimistic ;)
 
JNewell said:
You need to spend some more time with knives before you can say "S90V . . . in reality it means nothing." :foot:
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I don't know about that , I probably been using knives before you even born , and I don't use them to cut toilet papers or open letters , I actually put real use on them

S90V , and all the other "super\uber steels" are massively overrated
 
vicious00machete said:
I don't know about that , I probably been using knives before you even born , and I don't use them to cut toilet papers or open letters , I actually put real use on them

S90V , and all the other "super\uber steels" are massively overrated
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Ok, since you are convinced that you have so much experience, please enlighten us. What do you base your opinions on? Anyone can say something is junk, but what evidence can you contribute to this discussion to prove your point? A condescending attitude and snarky comments really are not required by someone with such experience are they?
 
vicious00machete said:
I don't know about that , I probably been using knives before you even born , and I don't use them to cut toilet papers or open letters , I actually put real use on them

S90V , and all the other "super\uber steels" are massively overrated
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I would like to hear your justification also. I am always open to new information. Please tell us what you consider to be "real use".
 
I was trying not to get into this, but this thread has been helpful (no other thread has discussed weight of the CF version, for instance), and I'd rather not see it go in the direction it is clearly heading. Of his 31 posts, 17 discuss price and 14 are insulting or derogatory. It would be for the benefit of everyone just to move on. (I didn't realize that before I posted and apologize for contributing.)
 
kreole said:
I was trying not to get into this, but this thread has been helpful (no other thread has discussed weight of the CF version, for instance), and I'd rather not see it go in the direction it is clearly heading. Of his 31 posts, 17 discuss price and 14 are insulting or derogatory. It would be for the benefit of everyone just to move on. (I didn't realize that before I posted and apologize for contributing.)
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Good advice. :thumbup:
 
grizzled gizzard said:
May I ask where you got it? I have one on order from knife center, and I'm dying to get it. They claim that I ordered in time, but who knows if Spyderco will be able to fill all their orders, or when that could be. I hate this part of the game.
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I got in from KC as well. However, I believe I was one of the first to put in the pre-order.
gottahaveit27 said:
Congratulations man! That is one beautiful knife. I'm in for two of the CTS-20P versions. I hope the performance is close to that of S90V. I own a Manix 2 in the XHP steel and love it so I am highly optimistic ;)
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IIRC, CTS-20CP ought to be Carpenter's own version of S90V, but with a touch more vanadium. It ought to make a cheaper alternative of S90V:thumbup:.

And yes, I ordered that one as well:D.
vicious00machete said:
I don't know about that , I probably been using knives before you even born , and I don't use them to cut toilet papers or open letters , I actually put real use on them

S90V , and all the other "super\uber steels" are massively overrated
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Perhaps the problem is that you're using the wrong steel for the task. I thought CTS-XHP was overrated when I dulled the blade cutting a few cases of corn. Then I later looked up the steel datasheet and noticed that "wear resistance" is not one of its selling points. It has good toughness(didn't find any chipping), it takes a razor edge and mirror finish easily, and it is very hard.

S90V is the opposite with average hardness, exceptionally high wear resistance, and reduced toughness due to the high carbide volume. So if you're batoning wood, chopping things, or carelessly running it through cardboard without making any effort to avoid the staples, I can see why you would be disappointed with it.

That being said, I really hope you actually USED the steel before commenting upon it.
 
I agree with Vicious on CF, but S90V, which I admittedly have not tried, sounds awesome.

I recall Yablanowitz with his S90V Mili testimony-if that's not "real use" nothing is.
 
kreole said:
I was trying not to get into this, but this thread has been helpful (no other thread has discussed weight of the CF version, for instance), and I'd rather not see it go in the direction it is clearly heading. Of his 31 posts, 17 discuss price and 14 are insulting or derogatory. It would be for the benefit of everyone just to move on. (I didn't realize that before I posted and apologize for contributing.)
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No need to apologize, Kreole. Sometimes we old cats just like to bat around a mouse. ;)
 
Not unless you were born in a decade that began with a "4," and if you were, you need to hit the rewind button, try to learn something about what you're speaking about, and maybe start acting your age rather than tossing off counterfactual nuggets of nonsense. At any rate, it's clear that you've obviously never used a knife with an S90V blade. :rolleyes:

vicious00machete said:
I don't know about that , I probably been using knives before you even born , and I don't use them to cut toilet papers or open letters , I actually put real use on them

S90V , and all the other "super\uber steels" are massively overrated
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One of the interesting notes in the Crucible datasheets is their cautions on S90V and 110V that only experienced knifemakers should use these materials. The cost and difficulty of running off high quality blades is almost certainly why we see so very few blades using either of these materials.

wongKI said:
I agree with Vicious on CF, but S90V, which I admittedly have not tried, sounds awesome.

I recall Yablanowitz with his S90V Mili testimony-if that's not "real use" nothing is.
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Oh, and to those who have ordered from KC as I have. I sent an email out last week and got this response.



Good morning,
I recently did a pre-pay on a couple of Spyderco Paramilitary's. I was wondering if you had any type of ETA as to when they might be in your possession and able to ship? I have heard several dates ranging from a few weeks to late December. Just curious. Thanks for your help.

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That's the same information we've been hearing as well.

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Thank you,

Alexandra

Then I got this the other day:

PLEASE NOTE: We are still waiting for your backordered item/items. When ALL items are ready to ship, we will ship your entire order in one shipment.

We will email you with any updates as they become available.
 
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