My Knife Spooked My Co-worker

[DoctaD]

I don't think he did anything wrong either. I think the coworker overreacted and imposed herself where she should not have. Or, at least, in the wrong way.

Maybe he snapped back and added fuel to the fire, so to speak (Proverbs says: ..."A gentle answer turns away wrath".
But, I know I would have probably reacted the same way.

 

[Luis G.]

irrational reaction is no excuse to restrict the rights of others. generally the laws are based on the responses of rational people - otherwise a significant portion of the population would lose the right to vote, own property, etc due to irrational aversion.

I'm going to get myself one of these ninja death machines

So screw the rights of others to a safe environment because you want to carry a knife. :thumbup: Your rights end where my rights begin, just to let you know buddy.

Typical human, inconsiderate and far too emotionally attached to their "rights" that they fail to see they have NO natural rights (just as bunny has no rights to live when a wolf is hungry) that have NOT been given by society.

Personally if I was asked to put away my knife, I would do so out of consideration for the other human being regardless of how bitchy or illogical their request if I was carrying a utility tool.

Out of the comments above most that are pro-telling the "nosy woman" to "shut the f* up" (if I am not mistaken some said to even hurt her?) and mind her business are probably the kind of people to have quick tempers and exactly the candidate for using that knife on others or perhaps just for intimidation. After all they are upset she was "nosy", imagine if the aggressive people had been fired due to her.

So in the end. :jerkit: We have majority rule.

Edit: Exactly, rational people. Not people who become aggressive when their "right" to carry a knife becomes threatened. Seriously.

 

[stabman]

So screw the rights of others to a safe environment because you want to carry a knife.

How does a 3-4 inch knife make an environment "unsafe"?
(some of the people in this thread might make an environment unsafe though...)

 

[hardheart]

So screw the rights of others to a safe environment because you want to carry a knife.

1. What makes the environment unsafe?
2. Why did you even register on a website called Bladeforums if you were so against the idea that knives are tools used by reasonable people for benign purposes? Did you really just want to jump in and tell us to all go f*** ourselves because the law, the policies of the places we work and play, and our own abilities & desires are all meaningless in the face of any single individual without authority who wants to restrict what we can do?

 

[Luis G.]

How does a 3-4 inch knife make an environment "unsafe"?

I have seen a gruesome video of a human being killed due to the Mexican drug war by a 4"-5" knife (probably closer to 5 inch blade tbh, not sure if this would qualify), however that would really not be something I'd do in a public community nor through PM, it's really not pretty. :barf:

Some readily accessible arteries can easily be reached by a 3-4 inch blade. Cut to the arm, leg (well perhaps not ALL legs, iirc it can vary greatly), groin, neck (like a 1" would be enough) =you'd bleed out pretty quickly). Luckily now a days infections can be taken care of pretty easily but back in the day infections could and have meant death before for many.
Stomach wise your relatively safe for more body types, however some people's organs be reached by a 3-4 inch blade. It's been a while since I took
a light course of anatomy.

The amount of "kill" stabs are very limited but they are possible with a 3-4 inch folder. More then likely though permanent damage perhaps to hands, and other parts of the body could easily occur with a 3"-4" blade.

1. What makes the environment unsafe?
2. Why did you even register on a website called Bladeforums if you were so against the idea that knives are tools used by reasonable people for benign purposes? Did you really just want to jump in and tell us to all go f*** ourselves because the law, the policies of the places we work and play, and our own abilities & desires are all meaningless in the face of any single individual without authority who wants to restrict what we can do?

1. Accessible weapon that can easily be used by anyone.
2. I am not against the idea that knives are tools, just as I know that even simple knowledge can be used as a weapon. Perhaps you shouldn't come up with assumptions, makes you look desperate.
Nice wording but: A single individual without authority requesting self-restraint which is obviously lacking to another single individual whom has no rights, yes I believe that would be called consideration in most circumstances. Same way one can ask a smoker to stop smoking in front of them. Does the smoker have law by his side? Yes. However we live in a civilized society were we respect each other.

I joined this forum because I love blades, and swords. Why, I am not sure but I do know I enjoy them very much, however I won't let that enjoyment become discomfort for others. That is self restraint.

 

[RubiconSS]

Did someone actuall say Some people are too emotionally attached to their rights? Really? How dare. Some of us have actually served fought sacrificed and lost people we cared about to protect those rights that some obviously take for granted. I thank God their is a Constitution and a Bill of Rights to protect us from people like that.

 

[stabman]

I have seen a gruesome video of a human being killed due to the Mexican drug war by a 4"-5" knife

No, you saw a human being killed by another human.
Knives don't make an environment unsafe any more than cars do...but humans sure can.
I have over 20 knives around me right now, and I'm quite safe.
I'd be more concerned about 20 humans around me. Seriously.

 

[ElectrikHellfire]

So screw the rights of others to a safe environment because you want to carry a knife.

Yeah, I think that pretty well sums up my opinion.

It's really a good thing for some people that we have "nerfed" society. 500 years ago, they would have never made it to age 12.

 

[DoctaD]

So screw the rights of others to a safe environment because you want to carry a knife. :thumbup: Your rights end where my rights begin, just to let you know buddy.

Typical human, inconsiderate and far too emotionally attached to their "rights" that they fail to see they have NO natural rights (just as bunny has no rights to live when a wolf is hungry) that have NOT been given by society.

Personally if I was asked to put away my knife, I would do so out of consideration for the other human being regardless of how bitchy or illogical their request if I was carrying a utility tool.

Out of the comments above most that are pro-telling the "nosy woman" to "shut the f* up" (if I am not mistaken some said to even hurt her?) and mind her business are probably the kind of people to have quick tempers and exactly the candidate for using that knife on others or perhaps just for intimidation. After all they are upset she was "nosy", imagine if the aggressive people had been fired due to her.

So in the end. :jerkit: We have majority rule.

Edit: Exactly, rational people. Not people who become aggressive when their "right" to carry a knife becomes threatened. Seriously.

Good grief....the guy was showing another person a new "toy". He was not brandishing it at her, just got seen by someone else who has some sort of fear. It seems as though she was the one wanting to "screw the rights of others".
I understand that it could have probably been defused by a less defensive reaction, but I bet he was incredulous at her over reaction and just reacted like a wolf that had it's tail grabbed while eating its just(ly) captured bunny.

 

[Luis G.]

Good grief....the guy was showing another person a new "toy". He was not brandishing it at her, just got seen by someone else who has some sort of fear. It seems as though she was the one wanting to "screw the rights of others".
I understand that it could have probably been defused by a less defensive reaction, but I bet he was incredulous at her over reaction and just reacted like a wolf that had it's tail grabbed while eating its just(ly) captured bunny.

Except his knife isn't a necessity as the bunny is to the wolf.

Did someone actuall say Some people are too emotionally attached to their rights? Really? How dare. Some of us have actually served fought sacrificed and lost people we cared about to protect those rights that some obviously take for granted. I thank God their is a Constitution and a Bill of Rights to protect us from people like that.

The same statement can be used to indirectly answer your how dare.

No, you saw a human being killed by another human.
Knives don't make an environment unsafe any more than cars do...but humans sure can.
I have over 20 knives around me right now, and I'm quite safe.
I'd be more concerned about 20 humans around me. Seriously.

A human kill a human due to the circumstances they were in, correctly. However the weapon used to kill was a knife.
Absolutely true, however cars are necessary for many people's very livelihood, a knife in an office setting to cut evil boxes of doom is not. As my dad said when my sister kept saying she didn't want to risk driving: Everything we do is a risk to our very lives, walking out the door, even staying in home however that doesn't mean one should cower in fear and not to anything with their lives because even doing nothing is a risk. His statement was more towards having to put one's self in risk to live, like crossing a street or driving.

 

[DoctaD]

Define necessity. You have NO knowledge or insight into his situation. You do NOT know where he works, what kind of work he does, where he goes, or what his hobbies and activities are. It seems as though you, through elitist judgement, are the one wanting to "screw the rights of others".
Perhaps he is the bunny, and would like to have a fighting chance against the wolf... I don't know.

 

[hardheart]

Luis, your posts are becoming a discomfort, please show some self restraint to maintain our civilized society.

 

[Folderguy]

Luis, your posts are becoming a discomfort, please show some self restraint to maintain our civilized society.

+1 :thumbup:

 

[Charlie Mike]

Define necessity. You have NO knowledge or insight into his situation. You do NOT know where he works, what kind of work he does, where he goes, or what his hobbies and activities are. It seems as though you, through elitist judgement, are the one wanting to "screw the rights of others".
Perhaps he is the bunny, and would like to have a fighting chance against the wolf... I don't know.

:thumbup:
I believe a knife IS a NECESSITY!

God gave almost every land dwelling critter fangs and/or claws. God gave humans intellect so that we could make fangs/claws of our own. In advance, I will not apologize.

 

[stabman]

Time to chill, folks.

Just think what an outside observer would think of knife enthusiasts reading this thread...

 

[Luis G.]

Define necessity. You have NO knowledge or insight into his situation. You do NOT know where he works, what kind of work he does, where he goes, or what his hobbies and activities are. It seems as though you, through elitist judgement, are the one wanting to "screw the rights of others".
Perhaps he is the bunny, and would like to have a fighting chance against the wolf... I don't know.

Except his company is providing him an alternative for whatever he uses his knife for, but he does not want to use the snap-on blades, which by are quite handy at cutting boxes just a massive problem when they dull/you have to change them out, not to mention a bit uncomfortable/flimsy most of the time.

Hardly the case, I never said he should stop carrying I impled the OP should not be pulling the knife out needlessly (perhaps in front of her). I am for carrying of knives as a utility tool.

Perhaps so, but I don't think snap on blades would really classify as protection from the wolf considering that he is using his folder to replace those snap on blades.
Also if the bunny defends itself with kung fu ninja sneak sneaky moves, then wouldn't the wolf just use an automatic high powered assault rifle? Bring a knife, they'll bring a gun. Bring a gun, they'll bring a cannon. Bring a cannon, they will bring Chuck Norris. No need to add to the amount of weapons in a fight, because remember your knife is also his to use in a defense situation.

Sorry but I had to bring humor, this thread is getting to be a bit aggressive.

 

[Folderguy]

Time to chill, folks.

Just think what an outside observer would think of knife enthusiasts reading this thread...

+1 :thumbup:

 

[hardheart]

They would think even knife enthusiasts viewed knives as weapons no matter who was holding one, and for what reason. They would think any fear of knives was well founded, because even those who collect them think it is reasonable for someone to perceive a threat when no malicious act is committed. They would think the legal right to own and carry a knife is meaningless, because a polite society does not allow knives to be used in public out of fear of offense or impending acts of violence.

None of that sounds right to me, but it is exactly what some have stated.

 

[Folderguy]

Before long, this thread might be moved over to Practical Tactical.

I don't like the way this is all developing.

 

[Folderguy]

So screw the rights of others to a safe environment because you want to carry a knife. :thumbup: Your rights end where my rights begin, just to let you know buddy.

A "safe environment" where I come from is one where those who can legally possess a handgun, and are allowed to carry it -- either concealed or open carry, depending on the state -- do so.

There's a very interesting book that shows it's safer to have more guns around, as less crime is the result:

I like "safe environments" as much as the next person. The "safe environment" argument is typically used by those who would have us all be without any means of self-defense.

While we're on the topic, it wouldn't surprise me one whit to find out the lady mentioned in the original post had more than one object in her purse that might make someone else feel "uncomfortable." Just because someone is uncomfortable should not mean that everyone else must only use plastic forks and knives, which by the way, can also be dangerous, if someone wants to use them in a dangerous way. Etc., etc., etc....