Need advice on transaction Please!

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Peter Hartwig said:
Dealers often ship cheaply. They use envelopes and they don't insure. They will come out ahead in the end even if they loose a few items(they also have the advantage of buying wholesale, making profits and writing off losses). Small time exchange sellers need to take extra precautions. One loss is devastating. On hind site I wish I had never insured packages. It could have saved me a lot of money, but I never knew where that one loss might come.
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Does CRK still ship via 2 day priority in a small box with the company name on the return label?
I wonder how many customers had their knife stolen while in transit due to this "steal me" packing method.

And dealers ship cheaply unless it ends up costing them money.
Even a single loss eats into profit. If it happens, it gets changed (at least for a well-run business).
 
stonesell said:
Now I wonder about the ease of opening those paper envelopes. I read that one sign of mail tampering is excessive glue, which the thief would use to effectively reseal the envelope. If both the seller and buyer are honest in this case, it had to have been opened somehow. We will know more when the check clears, and if the OP was dishonest, he would not have started this thread.
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The cardboard envelopes are nearly impossible to open without showing some signs of damage, and the OP has it all taped up as well. No one at the Postal Service took the knives out of the envelope. Looks like the OP sent the package in C/O someone other then the actual buyer, has the buyer looked at this person? I would NEVER send a knife addressed in C/O anyone other then the original buyer.

This entire thing is a scam from start to finish. It will come down to one persons word against another, and neither can prove what was or what wasn't in the package. The one thing I do not like about Flat Rate shipping is that there is no weight on the receipt, or on any of the tracking info.
 
robgmn said:
Does CRK still ship via 2 day priority in a small box with the company name on the return label?
I wonder how many customers had their knife stolen while in transit due to this "steal me" packing method.

And dealers ship cheaply unless it ends up costing them money.
Even a single loss eats into profit. If it happens, it gets changed (at least for a well-run business).
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If a dealer ships 100 knives and does not insure them, and one is lost they are still ahead of the game. They ship thousands of knives per year, and if a few go missing they still saved money by not using insurance.
 
robgmn said:
Does CRK still ship via 2 day priority in a small box with the company name on the return label?
I wonder how many customers had their knife stolen while in transit due to this "steal me" packing method.

And dealers ship cheaply unless it ends up costing them money.
Even a single loss eats into profit. If it happens, it gets changed (at least for a well-run business).
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It's been awhile since I got a CRK package. I don't believe they use USPS(UPS or FedEx). Most makers don't advertise there shipments for thieves. For instance Strider might use SKI.
 
robgmn said:
Does CRK still ship via 2 day priority in a small box with the company name on the return label?
I wonder how many customers had their knife stolen while in transit due to this "steal me" packing method.

And dealers ship cheaply unless it ends up costing them money.
Even a single loss eats into profit. If it happens, it gets changed (at least for a well-run business).
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I just received a UPS package from CRK, on Monday. They shipped it out on Friday; Angela, from customer service, actually called me prior to shipping, & asked if I would like, signature confirmation (which I accepted).

My awesome, CRK arrived in a very large BOX, with lot's of packing paper; along with my zaan being carefully wrapped with a very soft non abrasive type paper. First class, exceptional service, from a very professional businessman/woman!

IMO- Chris & Anne, are as good as it get's, when it comes to warranty, & customer service! :thumbup:

FYI: the box that my Zaan was shipped in, measured in at: 14"LongX6"WideX4 1/2" Deep, & was taped up with with a red caution seal tape that reads " STOP" "IF SEAL IS BROKEN" "Check contents before accepting"

Edit: AND, my Zaan, was inside the box...in case anyone was wondering.

CRK- should do a promotional video, which could hopefully teach some the people who struggle with this concept; how to properly/safely, ship a knife!

You don't think with the ten's of thousands of knives, that CRK has sold, that they haven't dealt with this very issue before?
 
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knifehunt said:
Does he actually have the banks info? I'd be willing to bet if it is legit, it was drawn on the Chase bank in the buyers building.
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That's my thought. I'm not convinced this is a scam yet. It may be a case of the buyer not getting what he paid for, just like he says.
 
Lone_Wolfe said:
That's my thought. I'm not convinced this is a scam yet. It may be a case of the buyer not getting what he paid for, just like he says.
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This buying trading thing is getting harder all the time. One thing sure caught my eye though in what the buyer said, and I know for a fact it's not true. I will not say anything regarding it on the open forum though.
 
knifehunt said:
This buying trading thing is getting harder all the time. One thing sure caught my eye though in what the buyer said, and I know for a fact it's not true. I will not say anything regarding it on the open forum though.
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PM me, please.
 
Im just gonna say one thing. My brother in law took a cashiers check from someone on a craigslist deal through registered mail. When he took it to the bank the teller told him to wait at least 30 days to send item because the scammers are so good the check will clear the first round of the bank and then about three weeks later the check will turn up as a bad check and they will debit your account. Check was good they deposited money and then about two or three weeks later the check bounced and they debited his account. Luckily he waited even though the buyer was pressuring him to send out x box even threatening legal action. Im not saying the buyer is scamming you but i would definitely wait to see if the check clears all the process before making a decision to return money.
 
grailhunter78 said:
Im just gonna say one thing. My brother in law took a cashiers check from someone on a craigslist deal through registered mail. When he took it to the bank the teller told him to wait at least 30 days to send item because the scammers are so good the check will clear the first round of the bank and then about three weeks later the check will turn up as a bad check and they will debit your account. Check was good they deposited money and then about two or three weeks later the check bounced and they debited his account. Luckily he waited even though the buyer was pressuring him to send out x box even threatening legal action. Im not saying the buyer is scamming you but i would definitely wait to see if the check clears all the process before making a decision to return money.
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This is good information to know.
 
Yeah I was shocked by how good they have the scams down. My brother in law would have sent the x box and spent the money before he even knew he got scammed if it wasnt for the teller at the bank.
 
KELAMA said:
Have you ever stopped to wonder "why" we've never done a transaction, Craytab? I too, make prudent decisions, whom I deal with here.

BTW- you seem much more agitated, & hostile, since you've become a regular in the W&C. FWIW: you really should consider spending more of your free time in there, it suits your personality better.

Back on topic.
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I was under the impression that W&C stuff was supposed to stay there.
 
robgmn said:
Does CRK still ship via 2 day priority in a small box with the company name on the return label?
I wonder how many customers had their knife stolen while in transit due to this "steal me" packing method.

And dealers ship cheaply unless it ends up costing them money.
Even a single loss eats into profit. If it happens, it gets changed (at least for a well-run business).
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How many mail carrriers/employees do you think are going to stop and steal one box out of the thousands of pieces of mail they see whiz by on the conveyor belts and in the giant carts? Not every USPS employee is a knife enthusiast, or would care to go through all the trouble of stealing every package they encounter with that name. If they did they would get fired and possible go to jail. Stealing mail is a federal offense. If you are going to go t jail and get fired for stealing something from work, it better be something worth a hell of a lot more than a Sebenza or any other knife. Chances are you will be caught on video as well.

Most stores that claim "Free Shipping" actually use those words as triggers to help you spend your money, it's a value added term. The cost of shipping is already calculated into the price. Ain't nothing in this world "free", shipping, screws, clips, or otherwise. The same goes for manufacturers that ship directly, they often charge $10-$15 to ship items via UPS or FedEx. They (manufacturers) have a set profit margin for the retailers, that allows them to offer the "free shipping".
 
I thought he was leaving by June or something?!? Dude has a chip on his shoulder for whine and cheese and anyone who posts in it.

Dude should take a hike like he said he would.
marcinek said:
I was under the impression that W&C stuff was supposed to stay there.
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Gastonknife said:
Shipping expensive knives in an envelope is just poor practice. I can see a low cost one; but not anything of value. It just does not offer the same amount of protection a box does. I think this has been discussed here many time in the past. Shipping plus insurance etc., is not worth the minimal cost savings to do the envelope.

If the check clears and the buyer has some pics of the pkg and label.............then it's possible this story could due a U-turn.
We'll see.
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I've shipped a few Mora's in the USPS padded flat rate envelope, and other inexpensive fixed blades. At 9 x 12 they fit most small and medium size fixed blades where a small flat rate box will not. If I ship anything over a few bucks, I'll always use a box and tape every edge. I've never been burned, but here is one precaution I take that might help.

Once the box is sealed, I take a few pics. A couple of the box with it taped up. One with the box on my postal scale to show the weight (and you can see the imperfections in the tape to show it's the same box). One of the label when I print it. And finally one with the label taped on the box while it's on the scale to show that it's all the same item. I guess a scammer could say that I filled the box with the appropriate amount of rocks but that's a stretch. I guess I've been lucky but I try to follow all the advice from countless members here who have posted endlessly about what NOT to do. Sound advice.
 
knifehunt said:
This buying trading thing is getting harder all the time. One thing sure caught my eye though in what the buyer said, and I know for a fact it's not true. I will not say anything regarding it on the open forum though.
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The only thing the I saw suspicious, in what the buyer said, was that he had a "police friend". It was probably meant to scare the OP. Hell, you can buy a police friend, because many private investigators are ex law enforcement, and once they get your check or credit card, they treat you pretty friendly. They have inside departmental contacts, have access to IP addresses, and these days they work mostly from a computer terminal.
 
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