New Buck Made Remington's?

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2018 Bullet Knives at Knife Center. Pre-Order, look like 501"s. Don't like that Remington is etched on the blade.
 
I'm not interested in a Buck pattern with Remington on it. I don't collect Remington but I would collect Buck made Remington patterns if they appeal to me.
 
The two that Buck has made and called "Bullet Knives" don't look like any Bullet knives that I remember.

I'll wait for the REAL Bullet Knives.......the memorable classics.

Blades should be stamped rather than "etched" (or whatever the cheap process they're now using is called).

Why do I get the impression that Buck is going do the Remington thing cheap rather than right?

I'm sure the quality will be there, but if they don't look like the original Bullet Knives......what's the point?
 
Just a guess but I'd bet that Buck is going to build the Remington pattern to Remington specifications. If so then perhaps there's a reason Remington doesn't want an exact reproduction/copy/clone of an earlier pattern and it's not Bucks call.

Same with how they're built. Remington must have decided on what they are going to sell them for then contracted Buck to make them. Buck or anyone else would look at their manufacturing cost and what Remington would pay then decide if they could give them the product as specified at the quality level required and make a profit.

If the designs produced aren't to our liking I'd hang that on Remington, not Buck.
 
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That's possible, but it's also possible that Buck has decided not to do the retooling that would allow them to do the Bullet Knives correctly to match the old Bullet Knives.

Anyway, so far they don't match and whoever is at fault in that bad decision will bear the responsibility for a lot of lost sales.......because who wants a Bullet that's not a Bullet.......but instead some kind of FrankenRemingBuck??

I hope they do the right thing and match the originals in the future.
 
My understanding is that the two bullet knives are barehead 500's. Two flavors, one fancy with Elk handles and sterling inlay, the other red wood with nickel silver inlay.

Gee whiz.... so much negativity.... give it a chance and see what transpires.....
Personally I'm excited, my order is in for the Elk and can't wait to get it.
 
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VorpalRain said:
That's possible, but it's also possible that Buck has decided not to do the retooling that would allow them to do the Bullet Knives correctly to match the old Bullet Knives ...
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If that were the case then Buck would have lost the contract with Remington, and would be liable for damages for of breach of contract.

Buck is making the knives Remington wants, to the specifications and quality required by Remington.
 
I hope there are other versions coming as the ones I see don't do anything for me. Seem like Bucks with the Remington name on them at a premium. Would love to see other patterns which are not currently in the Buck line up, hope that comes down the road.
 
DeSotoSky said:
My understanding is that the two bullet knives are barehead 500's. Two flavors, one fancy with Elk handles and sterling inlay, the other red wood with nickel silver inlay.

Gee whiz.... so much negativity.... give it a chance and see what transpires.....
Personally I'm excited, my order is in for the Elk and can't wait to get it.
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I'm giving it a chance, but this inauspicious start does not bode well for the future.

I have zero interest in the first two.

If all we get is existing Buck knives now marked "Remington" and a raft of Buck knives made in China and marked "Remington".......what's the point?

They must think we'll buy ANYTHING.

Wrong.
 
From the conversations I've had at Buck. This is the version. Maybe we will see something else as time goes on.
 
VorpalRain said:
I'm giving it a chance, but this inauspicious start does not bode well for the future.

I have zero interest in the first two.

If all we get is existing Buck knives now marked "Remington" and a raft of Buck knives made in China and marked "Remington".......what's the point?

They must think we'll buy ANYTHING.

Wrong.
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I think you missing the obvious. Buck is building knives for Remington. It's Remington that wants people to buy them. If Buck makes 1,000,000 knives for Remington and no one buys them that's on Remington. Buck, as the subcontractor still gets paid.

Folks act like these are Buck knives being made. They aren't. They're Remington knives made by Buck. Complain to Remington.
 
DeSotoSky said:
My understanding is that the two bullet knives are barehead 500's. Two flavors, one fancy with Elk handles and sterling inlay, the other red wood with nickel silver inlay.

Gee whiz.... so much negativity.... give it a chance and see what transpires.....
Personally I'm excited, my order is in for the Elk and can't wait to get it.
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I'm a Duke 500 collector, so to me this is a unique version of that knife. It's made by Buck and a barehead Elk handle with a silver bullet inlay at a Reminton set price that will be half what Buck is currently charging us for the same style LEs. This is a great value for a US made Buck knife, I can't wait for them to be shipped.

JB
 
Badhammer said:
I think you missing the obvious. Buck is building knives for Remington. It's Remington that wants people to buy them. If Buck makes 1,000,000 knives for Remington and no one buys them that's on Remington. Buck, as the subcontractor still gets paid.

Folks act like these are Buck knives being made. They aren't. They're Remington knives made by Buck. Complain to Remington.
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I completely agree
 
Badhammer said:
I think you missing the obvious. Buck is building knives for Remington. It's Remington that wants people to buy them. If Buck makes 1,000,000 knives for Remington and no one buys them that's on Remington. Buck, as the subcontractor still gets paid.
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Aren't you missing the obvious fact that if the knives flop Remington and Buck both lose money and if the knives were a hit both Remington and Buck would make a lot of money?

We may not know who's making the decisions, but we know that, so far, they're bad choices for everybody except the 500 collectors.

:)
 
No, if Buck is under contract they get paid for what they make. If they aren't popular Remington won't extend or renew the contract. Maybe business works different in your neck of the woods.
 
Badhammer said:
No, if Buck is under contract they get paid for what they make. If they aren't popular Remington won't extend or renew the contract. Maybe business works different in your neck of the woods.
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It works the same way everywhere.

Just like I said.
 
VorpalRain said:
Aren't you missing the obvious fact that if the knives flop Remington and Buck both lose money and if the knives were a hit both Remington and Buck would make a lot of money?

We may not know who's making the decisions, but we know that, so far, they're bad choices for everybody except the 500 collectors.

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To most consumers, the company that made the knife is the company that is on the blade.
I don't see Buck suffering a mark against them if the Remington knives are not big sellers.
If the Remington knives are not big sellers, that is on Remington, not Buck. Remington calls all the shots on the knives made for them by Buck, just as they did with whatever companies it was that made their knives before Buck got the contract.
It is my understanding that Remington stopped making knives in house sometime during the 1920's.
I have no idea who all the companies were that have made them since.
 
BuckShack said:
I want a knife that looks like a bullet. A bullet with a blade in it.
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How about a box of them? :D

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