Thanks for the kind words Man, I appreciate it. I'm just so surprised how much exposure I have gotten on here in one day.WOW! So glad I signed up. Well, fall by my page from time to time http://www.survive-gear.com or drop me an email to get updates. This being my first run, I'm really taking all of this feedback to heart. I want to make the very best products I can, that give people a lifetime of good service. The first run will be limited so I know they'll go fast.I looked at the MSO 6 wrongly I think a 1/4" gap would more than suffice and create a small choil as well.
For the GSO 4 a thick blade doesn't bother me at all as I am used to Scrapyard knives which are generally a very thick blade.
The designs and ideas you have are nice and have piqued my interest. I would be a highly potential buyer funds permitting.
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One of the biggest factors you have to look at in this market is affordability. Especially with being a new start-up company, you may want to start with a line of cheaper (materials-wise) knives to accompany your seemingly more expensive fixed blades you showed (I couldn't see any prices). Maybe offer the lower ones in a 440 series steel, and a sub 1095 carbon steel. All you have to worry about is a good heat treatment, and those steels would work fine for a cheaper line.
I like the GSO-4 design. It wouldn't be my place to comment on its practicality as I'm not an outdoorsman. I just like the asymmetry of the blade/handle width, aesthetically. I look forward to seeing the finished knife
Thank you for the compliment.
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3/16" is more than thick enough for most of us will use that type of knife for. If you did a poll on favored thickness for a bushcraft knife, the winner would be either 1/8" or 5/32", guaranteed. I've got a couple of knives that are 1/8" thick that I use to baton. Unless the wood is REALLY knotty, there is no issue with a thinner full tang blade.
You would sell some of the .215" thick blades without a doubt. There are many people out there who like a 4"-5" blade that is thick.
Welcome to BF.
The GSO-4 Bushcraft...as others have said...too thick. Bushcraft is fine work, not chopping. I'm not sure what that extra finger ridge is for nor am I sure why the blade and handle meet at an angle. Not a bad looking knife at all though.
The GSO-5 Survival...I'm not sure what "survival" means....no one has really given me a definition. So I don't know what that one is supposed to do. But! Its got "Survival" in its name so it should sell like donuts at a fat guy convention. That one is good to go as is.
The GSO-6 Combat...Again...not sure what "combat" means. Knife fighting? But...just like "Survival"....."Combat" sells. Slap some pointy bits on it, make it even thicker, camo coat it, stencil a skull on it, and put some NATO phonetic alphabet stuff it its name along with "Spec" or "Ops" like GSO-6 Spec Charlie and you wont be able to make them fast enough.
If you are only going to put coating on the "non working" parts....why bother? Save everybody a few bucks and skip it.
Best of luck to you! I'm looking forward to seeing how it all works out for you.
The GSO-4 Bushcraft...as others have said...too thick. Bushcraft is fine work, not chopping. I'm not sure what that extra finger ridge is for nor am I sure why the blade and handle meet at an angle. Not a bad looking knife at all though.
The GSO-5 Survival...I'm not sure what "survival" means....no one has really given me a definition. So I don't know what that one is supposed to do. But! Its got "Survival" in its name so it should sell like donuts at a fat guy convention. That one is good to go as is.
The GSO-6 Combat...Again...not sure what "combat" means. Knife fighting? But...just like "Survival"....."Combat" sells. Slap some pointy bits on it, make it even thicker, camo coat it, stencil a skull on it, and put some NATO phonetic alphabet stuff it its name along with "Spec" or "Ops" like GSO-6 Spec Charlie and you wont be able to make them fast enough.
If you are only going to put coating on the "non working" parts....why bother? Save everybody a few bucks and skip it.
Best of luck to you! I'm looking forward to seeing how it all works out for you.
Hahaha! You have by far been the best feedback yet. Outstanding!
Yeah, based on the general feedback I have gotten I am going to knock the thickness of the GSO-4 down to 3/16" I do want it to be a stout, thick little knife though so that's probably about as thin as it's going to get. The rest is just my styling; from the blade meeting the handle at an angle to the tall and short blade. I have always preferred a bigger blade when I'm out in the woods but hated the weight. I have always been able to build shelters, traps, improvised litters, and bow drills for starting fire with a big blade. This is my attempt at compressing the package a bit. My styles spawned from me using lots of different production knives and eventually giving them away. I know that they won't be for everyone. With all of the people so far who have preordered my stuff without even knowing the price, I know they'll work great for at least some people.
As far as the names go, well, you got me there. I just figured I had to call them something other than little, medium and large knife. The GSO-4 name seems pretty obvious in it's styling. It's not a traditional style of bushcraft knife so I guess I could have gone with utility or EDC knife. Campcraft and bushcrafting are more what I saw the knife doing. It would make a great EDC knive though for those who don't like a folder.
The GSO-5 Survival knife is just that. I designed this as a well balanced(really, it's balanced) field knife. When I think of the word "survival", I think of being stuck in a less than ideal situation but knowing I have the mental and physical tools to overcome it. On the mental part, you are on your own. For the physical portion, I designed this knife. The two finger grooves, contouring and palm swelling for an instinctive and secure grip, even in pitch dark. The 5.25" blade that is small enough to handle most any chore but large and thick enough to be used as an improvised spear point. If you should need it as a weapon to defend your life, the blade is long enough and has enough of a point to easily pierce vital organs. Enabling one to quickly dispatch an aggressor, thus increasing your own chances of survival. A breaker pommel to quickly break glass should you need to quickly get you or someone else out of a wrecked vehicle. It also keeps you from needing to find a brick or stone if you need to break the window of a building to gain quick access.
Since joining this forum, thanks to the feedback of many, I will also be offering the same models with a flat pommel for those users who need the pommel to achieve different things. Finally just top notch, quality heat treating, materials and construction so the knife will hold a good edge
and not fail you when you might need it most. Yeah, that pretty much sums up my inspiration behind the design features of my knife.
The GSO-6 was of a similar inspiration as the GSO-5 but with a longer 6" blade and more aggressive point, I saw it being more of an offensive tool. That's why I titled it a Combat knife. That's not to say any of my two larger models won't be a great camping knife if someone likes the feel and enjoys carrying a more substantial knife. I designed them for all of the reasons I mentioned above. Anything less than that is cake.
My reason for wanting to offer coatings on some knives and keep the coating off of the working surfaces of the blade is this. Coatings on the working portion of the blade for one wear off unevenly and look terrible. Also they inhibit the penetration potential of the blade and create drag. Having coating on the tang under the handle area I believed would protect the steel from the elements and keep away any potential corrosion under and around the handle slabs for those who don't maintain their knife that often. Also, it would keep the knife more subdued while sheathed but that's more of a tacticool feature.
I hope this maybe at least sort of answered a few of your questions. Thanks for the well wishes!
Thanks! I do think they will sell...especially the larger ones. They nicely tap into what is "sexy." The trusty 5-7 inch "do it all anywhere" survival knife...everybody and his brother wants one. Read all the "what one knife" threads here and elsewhere.
The "bushcraft" one might be a little tougher. It's all about "miminal" and "scandi" right now with the folks who practice "bushcraft".
BTW....About the spear point....don't do that. Especially in a "survival" situation (whatever that means). You don't throw your most important tool. Sharpen a stick and fire-harden it. Throw that. That's a little "survival" tip!
Haha! You know what survival means. Well, what it means to me anyway.
Yeah, I really like my bushcraft knife design but wasn't sure how it might be received. It has been getting a really positive response so far other than the worries of it being too thick. Time and some video reviews will tell the story I suppose. We shall see. Seriously though, thanks so much for the interactions. I appreciate the feedback.
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This whole thread bothers me.
First. It is a violation of the rules you agreed to when you signed up here to be using a company name as an ID.
Second. This thread is way to self promotional I.E. SPAM.
Third. letting this go on is not fair to the members, dealers and manufacturos that support this site so that it can stay open.
First. It is a violation of the rules you agreed to when you signed up here to be using a company name as an ID.
Second. This thread is way to self promotional I.E. SPAM.
Third. letting this go on is not fair to the members, dealers and manufacturos that support this site so that it can stay open.
I am just trying to bounce ideas and opinions off of people before beginning my very first ever production of my designs. I just want to get things right, that's all.
These posts and interactions here have been invaluable to me. It has been simply great.
I paid money for my dues here. What am I doing wrong? As far as the name, my only excuse is that I saw the name wasn't taken and got excited. That's why I added my real name after it. If I can change my user name now I certainly will.
To anyone else reading this, please give me your thoughts and opinions. If I don't use them now, I know they'll certainly help me tailor future models.
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Let me repeat myself. Here is a list of things that are wrong.
First. It is a violation of the rules you agreed to when you signed up here to be using a company name as an ID. (This can be changed by following the instructions in the Service and Support forum.
Second. This thread is way to self promotional I.E. SPAM.
Third. letting this go on is not fair to the members, dealers and manufacturers that support this site so that it can stay open. (Basic membership does not allow you promote your business for that you would need a maker, manufacturer or dealer membership.)
Yea, Bastid's right. I didn't want to be the bearer of bad news. The part about not using a manufacturer name is new to me, however. I just assumed you had a maker or manufacturer membership and had issues changing the "color" of your user name (which has happened in the past).
It was an honest attempt for feedback. Rules are rules though.
It was an honest attempt for feedback. Rules are rules though.
I purchased a Knifemaker Membership Sunday Morning. I have the email transaction notification for $60 from onestopknifeshop.com in my email inbox. What can I do? This is is distracting from the point of my thread now. I paid for a subscription to be able to do this so how do I get this fixed?
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To me it means learning to do without, not having a bunch of gear.
But I'm more of an Edward Abbey than a Rambo... And that's why I must say that the military-esque appearance of your designs doesn't appeal to me as something I'd actually use or carry. I do buy some knives of that style though, and the model of yours that I find the most appealing (based on the aesthetic 'flow' of the outline) is the GSO-6. I do wish it didn't have the pointed butt though. I'd be most interested if it came with an uncoated blade, natural handle material (not exotic or expensive, good grip, durable. walnut maybe), and priced competitively with the Becker and ESEE products.
Since you asked. Especially since you paid to ask.
Well, you are going to get your wish Sir.:thumbup: I am offering both the GSO-5 and 6 with a rounded pommel as well as the breaker pommel. I have decided to make the first run in A2, with coated and uncoated models. I am probably going to be making the handles from micarta on this run. They will still be 3D contoured just like my solidworks videos illustrate. The fit and finish will still be excellent, dare I say a step or two ahead of the becker and ESEE you mentioned.To me it means learning to do without, not having a bunch of gear.
But I'm more of an Edward Abbey than a Rambo... And that's why I must say that the military-esque appearance of your designs doesn't appeal to me as something I'd actually use or carry. I do buy some knives of that style though, and the model of yours that I find the most appealing (based on the aesthetic 'flow' of the outline) is the GSO-6. I do wish it didn't have the pointed butt though. I'd be most interested if it came with an uncoated blade, natural handle material (not exotic or expensive, good grip, durable. walnut maybe), and priced competitively with the Becker and ESEE products.
Since you asked. Especially since you paid to ask.
The price will be in the $140-160 range for these first A2 models. They will still come complete with a molle compatible kydex sheath. This approach will help get some great knives into people's hands for a lot less money than if I were to offer my initial run in something like CPM3V. More exotic materials will be coming down the line, just after people have a chance to see what my knives are all about.- Status