New fun game...find the knifekit that R. Weber custom knives built

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I believe after reading that your intentions are honerable. This is my interpretation ,CUSTOM = KNIFE MADE FROM SCRATCH WITH VERY LITTLE OUSTSOURCE. CUSTOMIZED= KNIFE MADE BY ANOTHER MAKER OR COMPANY AND ALTERED BY SAY FILLING OR ENGRAVING OR WHAT EVER TO MAKE IT NICER. I am not trying to step on toes just to clarify from all the other contaversy ive read this is the way the majority of the people say. I believe honesty is the best policy.
 
jingles1952 said:
I personally have several Weber knives in my collection and I think they are wonderful craftsmanship. I have never seen a kit knife that had all the work and or detail that Mr. Weber knives have as a finished product. I have several "custom " knives in my collection that will not hold a candle to Mr. Weber's knives. To me you look at the end result and the craftsmanship in a knife and decide if YOU want to own it or not ! I have even taken the time to visit Mr. Weber's shop and found him to be a stand-up guy .That being said I will continue to buy knives from Mr. Weber. Maybe we should check out some of the knives made by the people attacking his knives and see how their workmanship stacks up ! P.S. I have also seen his service records and he is a career veteran just for those who have doubts.
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Two posts?

Anyone else smell fish?
 
I don't know about them being the same person. Bacustomknives' writing style is consistent in his post, and on his website (no spaces after commas, little or no punctuation, disregard for rules of capitalism). Rweber's writing style is different both on his website and in his post. The IP's both come back to Godaddy, so nothing can be inferred there, but the images are hosted differently. Maybe bacustomkives is truly just trying to play peacemaker... just saying. (the jingles guy on the otherhand... )
 
From day one,i said this was gonna lead into a racket,this is now an official racket,i tryed to keep peace through out this whole episode,and now im a guy who i have never met?and now im the guy who is getting the threatining emails from sticky,this guy needs to take his meds he is crazy
 
bacustomknives said:
your so right ,when the truth comes out stickys accusations are going to make him look like the troublemaker he really is,dont accuse and till you know the facts
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If you aren't who people are saying you are then how about giving everyone your contact info. Name, address, phone number. Shouldn't be a problem. Every other knife maker on this website has that info available and if you are a reputable maker then it is just some free advertisement.
 
flamtnbkr said:
if you aren't who people are saying you are then how about giving everyone your contact info. Name, address, phone number. Shouldn't be a problem. Every other knife maker on this website has that info available and if you are a reputable maker then it is just some free advertisement.
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you hava point i just dont think that would be a good idea this far into a thread like this,every human being out there would have my personal info,whats you number and name ill call you,i have a way to prove it privatly to you,so you can verify it? Sound good?
 
its also interesting that since this debacle has come up
"Special: 01/23/10 10% off to all Repeat customers & Blade Forum Members on Knives & Sheaths"
has appeared on rwebers website.
i imagine he'd have to give a greater than 10% discount

and while you're updating "availble knives", its spelt available
and "gound" is spelt ground
 
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This thread is in the General Knife Discussion. The topic is the knives of R.Weber. Attacks on each other and whining about the unfairness of life that anyone's work should be criticized are out of bounds.

Sticky, speculation about multiple usernames may be premature here, and isn't really suited to this subforum. I am going to move this to FEEDBACK.

jingles1952, you haven't been here long enough to know your way around. Read the FAQ and figure it out. I will not allow another outburst from you. Insulting a moderator for trying to keep the peace is a quick ticket out of here.

bacustomknives, quit moaning and groaning. This is an internet forum. We discuss knives and the knife business. If someone's work is questioned, a calm answer wins the day. We have heard from a variety of members here and opinions were far from all negative. Accusations of the discussion getting out of hand are themselves out of line.

I am moving this to the FEEDBACK/Good, Bad, & Ugly forum.
 
'Spelt' is an old alternate spelling. It's also an irrelevant and unwelcome distraction in a thread that's getting out of hand anyway. Help me out here: keep the poking to a minimum.
 
Sticky said:
I think i have it all now. Jingles, bacustom knives richard weber...all one in the same with different web sites. wheres your website jingles? Are you in alto Indiana too?

here's weber's low end stuf(still high for a kit)
http://www.rweberknives.com/CONTACT_INFO.html

here is his other alias bacustom knives:his high end stuff over a grand!!!!
http://www.backwoodscustomknives.com/main.sc

*****note how the contact information isnt there in this one but instead a form. very clever! wouldnt want to see the same alto indiana location!


Bacustoms has been privately messaging trying to get me to lock the thread since day one, his weber clone was threatening me and has since been quiet. he has new fans springing up daily who own his wonderful knives and can vouch for his creds.

This dude appears to have scammed THOUSANDS(well maybe just a thousand) of ebay consumers for HUGE amounts of money. Indiana's attorney general would love this.
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Stinky. I give up you figured it out!!! IT A CONSPIRACY To take over the knife world. Got to hand to you-you are one smart guy. And to all those other folks posting on this thread glad some have alot of common sense and other well just like this guy. This is a constructive forum, I would hate say stinky wears girls panties. But I dont know that maybe he does?

I can only say one thing Stinky, you better start buying up all the other knives out ther before all three of me take over.

I just quit for the day and had a few emails from others about this forum. Enough with the personal attacks Stinky. I Guarantee YOU are heading into uncharted waters. I would hate to have to set condition 1SQ ON YOU!

If you would like to visit me at my shop I'll send you directions, then we could be friends. Your only live 5 hours from me. OPEN INVITE... If not heck I WILL come see you.
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rweber, you just blew right past my post of ten minutes ago. Not good. You also ended your last post with what looks a lot like a threat. Back off, calm down, state your case for the work you do, and stop playing keyboard commando here.

It isn't necessary. You had a number of people here willing to accept your viewpoint. Don't alienate them by personal arguments.
 
As long as they are stated from the outset.

Hi Robert. You've probably seen my work from long ago. I'm still a moderator on the quiet Knife Kits forum on another forum.

I'll be the first one to wave the flag that kits are a damn good item, and that there is STILL a respectable amount of handwork in them to make for an artistic and personal presentation.

Let me show that I know what I am talking about:
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In the past, we've talked over this aspect of misrepresentation till my fingers hurt from typing. It always boils down to one final thing: Accountability.

You can't wait for someone to ask first about source of production. The clients you are attracting are neophyte buyers of
'handmade custom knives'. that said, once they explore this world even further (as they will), the answers to questions never asked or answers never offered will be readily apparent.

The gripe isn't that you are making great quality kits and selling them. It's that they share blade markings (reserved for true handmades) and deceptively vague qualifiers about the origins.

Dennis Greenbaum doesn't make his upper level kits any more, but he made plenty and sold a few at the thousand dollar range, too. Here is how he set up at a show:

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It didn't seem to hurt his credibility one iota. He still sold his kits, before moving on to full handmades.

I see you getting defensive about personal attacks, but by the actions of deception, you are impacting every single handmade maker out there.

Yes.

They are vying for the same clients you are, and you may have driven potential collectors away at best. At worst, your work damns all of them in their eyes.

Mannlicher said:
There are, in my humble opinion, two things a knife maker needs to do, to be 'ethical'.
Be up front in your advertising, about your material, methods, and the extent to which you 'make' the knives you sell.
Second, answer any questions by customers honestly.

Other than that, how an individual 'makes' his knives is his own business.
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Such a great statement it needs to be repeated. :thumbup:

You can relieve a lot of this pressure by simply calling them what they are.

Coop
 
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