New owners of Schrade

Since we're on the subjuct of now Schrades, has anyone been able to get their hands on either the Uncle Henry 2202UH or 2203UH? Full tang D2 blades and what they are claiming as stag handles. That 2.75" blade is really catching my eye.
 
Thanks, Jeff. I mean more of the actual blades themselves being almost bendable, for lack of a better word, not wobble or a loose joint.
 
Ramrodmb said:
Thanks, Jeff. I mean more of the actual blades themselves being almost bendable, for lack of a better word, not wobble or a loose joint.
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I can flex my blades with some effort, this does not surprise me however. These blades are nicely ground, the primary grind leaves a thin blade that slices very well. They are not overly thin but seem to me a well thought out design. I can flex the blades on some of my Older US made Scrades, and a couple of my GEC knives too, so don't really see where that line of thinking is going?

The sharpening grinds are even, and all three blades on my sample are good cutters right out of the box. For twenty bucks, this is a great work knife that is ready to go when you get it, and can be used for those of things you don't want to put a favorite through, mine will be a shed knife, cutting rags, opening potting soil and manure bags, etc.

I was impressed with the knife overall, ( same model as Black Mamba got), my only nits are a gap between a spring and a liner, and the spring that the sheepsfoot and Spey ride on sits a few thousandths of an inch proud when each blade is in the open position. Good snap and action all around, so functionally, the knife is flawless, for a twenty dollar beater, I feel this was a steal. I'll be looking at a smaller stockman at some point in the future to check out as well. Seems Taylor has upped their game on these knives, at least from my one sample experience.
 
Misplaced Hillbilly said:
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Ok so I stopped in the wally world in another town close to me, a friend said they had a better sporting goods section. Well they did have a bigger variety of knives, mostly moderns. But they had this combo for $19.95, bout 21 bucks plus tax. Fit and finish is pretty darn good, with a couple minor things "off". On the trapper scales were just a bit to square for my taste, that's mostly a personal preference. The clip blade is very slightly out of center, but doesn't rub. On the little one the center pin is struck off center on one side. Instead of a domed head it is 1/2 a dome with a ridge. Otherwise nice walk and talk, snaps open and closed good. No half stops. Blades are a shallow full width hollow ground, very slicey. Absolutely no gaps. I'd say every bit as good as a RR. Maybe better in some regards. I will point out I bought the display ones. Girl behind the counter said they was on order but it'd be 2 weeks, said they sold out quick and offered me the displays.
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I put this in the newest addition thread, thought I'd just quote that post here. Also will add I chamfered the covers a bit and smoothed them to a slightly rounded edge on the trapper, made a world of difference.
 
black mamba said:
My Taylor-Schrade 858OTB (Old Timer Bone) arrived today, and I'm impressed. As I said, some 10 years ago I couldn't find a keeper out of 2-3 dozen Taylor-Schrade knives I inspected in person, but this one, ordered sight unseen off the web, is terrific. First the pics, then the report.

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This is a jumbo stockman, measuring 4.56" closed and weighing 4.3 oz. I wanted to see if the extra size brought any benefits, so I compared it to a 1990s vintage S&M extra-large stockman at 4.29" closed and 3.8 oz.

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The S&M's clip main is 3.28", while the Taylor-Schrade's is 3.39", so you get an eighth inch more blade for a quarter inch more frame. Next I compared the Fit & Finish: gaps, bone to bolster fit, bone and jigging quality, blade grinds and finish. The S&M won out for gaps and bone quality and finish, while the T-S was better (near perfect, in fact!) in bone to bolster fit and edge grinds (look at how even they are!). Remember, this is comparing a $20 knife of today with a $100 knife of 25 years ago. Depending on what you place more importance on . . . I call it a wash.

Walk & Talk: Very good on both, but I slightly prefer the T-S. All three pulls are very consistent, firm and smooth at about a 6, with excellent snap. The S&M pulls are a little firmer, 6½-7, with a slight increase in resistance at the halfway point. I prefer the smoother pull of the Taylor-Schrade. One negative of the T-S is that the nick on the spey blade is shallow enough that it all but ensures you will leave a rub mark when opening it, unless you first open both the other blades. You have to push quite hard on it to keep from slipping out of the nick.

For a work knife I am thoroughly impressed with this 858OTB. Very well made, smooth functioning, it lacks some of the cache of the more expensive S&M, but for the money is a terrific value. Highly recommended!
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Glad you like it !I love mine
 
sitflyer said:
I can flex my blades with some effort, this does not surprise me however. These blades are nicely ground, the primary grind leaves a thin blade that slices very well. They are not overly thin but seem to me a well thought out design. I can flex the blades on some of my Older US made Scrades, and a couple of my GEC knives too, so don't really see where that line of thinking is going?

The sharpening grinds are even, and all three blades on my sample are good cutters right out of the box. For twenty bucks, this is a great work knife that is ready to go when you get it, and can be used for those of things you don't want to put a favorite through, mine will be a shed knife, cutting rags, opening potting soil and manure bags, etc.

I was impressed with the knife overall, ( same model as Black Mamba got), my only nits are a gap between a spring and a liner, and the spring that the sheepsfoot and Spey ride on sits a few thousandths of an inch proud when each blade is in the open position. Good snap and action all around, so functionally, the knife is flawless, for a twenty dollar beater, I feel this was a steal. I'll be looking at a smaller stockman at some point in the future to check out as well. Seems Taylor has upped their game on these knives, at least from my one sample experience.
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It's interesting how this thread is going. Some long time collectors claim that the China made Schrades in no way match or compare to the older USA made Schrades while other long time collectors have given the newer Schrades a fair shake/try out and have reported that they compare favorably to the older USA Schrades.

I have not bought any China made Schrades or RR knives; however, for the last few years, I've given one of my nephews China made Colt brand knives for his birthday and Christmas and he's been quite satisfied with them. The fit and finish on the Colt knives is quite good and he has had no problems with the knives both in use and in sharpening. He's the assistant manager of a large tire chain company and can give a knife a pretty good workout over the span of a day.

Since Jeff @black mamba and Duane sitflyer sitflyer have given some China made knives a go, I think I just might give them a go for myself.
 
Modoc ED said:
It's interesting how this thread is going. Some long time collectors claim that the China made Schrades in no way match or compare to the older USA made Schrades while other long time collectors have given the newer Schrades a fair shake/try out and have reported that they compare favorably to the older USA Schrades.

I have not bought any China made Schrades or RR knives; however, for the last few years, I've given one of my nephews China made Colt brand knives for his birthday and Christmas and he's been quite satisfied with them. The fit and finish on the Colt knives is quite good and he has had no problems with the knives both in use and in sharpening. He's the assistant manager of a large tire chain company and can give a knife a pretty good workout over the span of a day.

Since Jeff @black mamba and Duane sitflyer sitflyer have given some China made knives a go, I think I just might give them a go for myself.
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You just might be pleasantly surprised, I believe you will examine them with an open mind Ed, and I'll bet they would fair better with your tin roof test than a carbon steel GEC would :p
 
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So far I'm really liking the OT trapper, the full width hollow grind makes it nice and thin behind the edge. Slices wonderfully imo, takes a wicked edge. Neither of these knives have even the tinniest bit of gaps, and no movement to the blades. The uncle henry blade rides nice and center, good lockup on the liner lock. If your thinkin twice bout buying one, don't over think it. Buy one,use the crap outta it. They can take it.
 
sitflyer said:
You just might be pleasantly surprised, I believe you will examine them with an open mind Ed, and I'll bet they would fair better with your tin roof test than a carbon steel GEC would :p
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I just dug out the catlouge for the Back East Store and will hit their site tomorrow. The tin roof always has a welcoming surface.:rolleyes:
 
TheChunk91 said:
If we are going to talk about edge retention let me ask you this, how did you base your edge retention comparison?
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Sorry for the delay in answering.

I based the edge retention on the only thing that really matters.
Real world use over a period of years.

As for blade geometry ... That does make a difference. However, both my US made and Taylor Made were sharpened on the same Smith's guided rod sharpener, using the 20° slots.
So the geometry on both is the same.

(1095 of the US Old Timer vs Stainless of the Taylor Made:
Irrelevant in this case.
My US Made 6OT and and 7OT both have "Schrade +" tang stamps, so have Schrade's 440A(?) stainless.
My two Taylor Made 7OT's have "440A" etched on the blade.)
 
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BladeHQ has the blade steel listed as 7Cr17MoV. I personally don't know how that compares to any of the 440 series steels. Haven't had the trapper long enough to say anything about long term edge holding ability. But I did have to use it to clean and scrape my battery terminals yesterday. Didn't seem to affect it in any way. I'm probably not a good tester of long term edge holding anyways. I have a worn almost completely out diamond sharpener, that's more like a hone than an abrasive. If I used a blade much at all during the day, I usually give each side 3-4 passes follows by about as many on a strop. I do this regardless of steel type,again this is more a honing process than material removal. I'm a user but not an abuser, but in my work sometimes they'll see some tough use. That's where I see these knives shine, especially the sawcut delrin ones. Good tough working knives. I can cut open a bag of mulch and not worry about grit in it hurting my knife. Edit: I'll add the box my trapper and 120t came in was marked BTI tools,which bought out Taylor .
 
The Taylor Schrade Bone handles series use either 9cr... or 44C depending on who you believe.Have three of them and IMHO they take and hold a good edge . IMHO they are just as good as the older Schrades.
Rich
 
It's telling that you can't get a straight answer on what materials they are made of. IMHO.

I'll bite my lip on the latter part of your post.
 
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