New Rules for the Exchange forum - Feedback thread.

Yeah, re-read the rules - notice what has a line through it now. I think with the new sorting option, things will be a lot less strict.
 
Spark, on the new system I see a lot of first page space being taken up by locked threads already. Is there any way for you folks to delete these? Giving that space back to active threads.
--Bill
 
Good question. I'm loathe to just prune out threads since people back out of deals all the time, but I do like to see people locking their threads when they are sold now. Much nicer.
 
Spark said:
Good question. I'm loathe to just prune out threads since people back out of deals all the time, but I do like to see people locking their threads when they are sold now. Much nicer.
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is there a way to make it (without modding) so that it only displays unlocked threads in that particular forum?
 
Kiah, Really ? See, i am confused. So Thank You for setting me straight. Now i have no objections and feel happy again.
roland
 
Spark said:
Good question. I'm loathe to just prune out threads since people back out of deals all the time
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Couldnt they just start another thread if that happens? I think the slowly moving locked threads are the only downfall (not a big one) to this new system. Other than that, Im really liking it :thumbup:
 
In a way, it's a non-issue. Locked or unlocked, all or none of the items sold, the thread isn't going anywhere in the sort order and will only get pushed off the first page by new threads. Still, clearing out the completed sales threads would help keep the unsold stuff higher on the list and make the wait time to relist a little more palatable. Maybe it could be done weekly just to tidy thing up for the threads created within that seven day period.
 
I haven't used the raw BF view on any forum for so long I don't know what the issue is. I use an Google's RSS reader to tell me what threads are new. I rarely look at the site itself anymore in terms of FS items. I'm glad there's more discussion on the dealer side.
 
dericdesmond said:
Couldnt they just start another thread if that happens? I think the slowly moving locked threads are the only downfall (not a big one) to this new system. Other than that, Im really liking it :thumbup:
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:thumbup: me too. I really thought I'd hate it, but I actually think I like it a lot. we'll have to see if my stuff actually sells now! :D
 
Fascion said:
No, I don't believe there is. :(
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BUT, someone could easily make a script that runs through the MySQL database, checks each thread listed in the exchange to see if it's closed, and then it could just delete that entry. the script doesn't have to be a part of the actual vBulletin of the forums, it could be entirely independent, then there won't be any downtime. or maybe instead of deleting the threads, the script could change the post time appropriately so that it doesn't get displayed. all of the closed threads could just have their post date pushed back 100-200 years.
 
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OK, so you can click on sort threads by last post to return the system to the way it was, but do I have to do that every single time I log in? Or can I just set preferences once? Would be a pain in the neck if each time I move into one of the for sale forums I have to go down and click that sorting option again
 
Balislinger said:
I have to say I don't like the new rules change. Suspending rules on comments in for sale threads? The last thing I want is some NooB crapping on my thread because he doesn't like the price or the knife. Separating knives into individual threads? Not a good idea, grouping them into a single thread is best. Some guys are selling 20 knives at a time. And not being able to bump the post with a price change is just bad news for all of us who sell regularly on this forum. What's the point of a platinum membership if us collectors can't sell effectively? Sure, I like to support BFC as well, but if buying and selling starts to suck, the value of this site goes way down IMHO. A seller needs to be able to bump his thread to the top where others will readily see something has changed when he updates the price or critical info on the product. Leaving a knife you're trying to sell (especially when you need the money!) on page 3 or 4 for 2 weeks will be madenning as hell and I'll look for alternative places to spend my time on that make it easier to get visibility. In my opinion, you should immediately return to the previous rules before the last two rules changes. They worked fine for several years and this is a very successful site, partly based on those rules. If you can't, then at least allow bumping based on price or info changes, don't encourage listing knives separately, and still police stupid comments unrelated to the sale. Thanks
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I agree, do not like the new rules. Started selling here because of the additional exposure. I think that being able to bump for a modification of the thread should be permitted every 72 hours.I understand the problem of the seller who bumps just to get his item back on the front page is not fair and I agree, also those that bump because a comment was added by another member. I think that threads that are updated with critical info. about pricing or avaliablity should be permitted to bump up every 72 hours. 14 days is too long.
 
shaving sharp said:
I agree, do not like the new rules. Started selling here because of the additional exposure. I think that being able to bump for a modification of the thread should be permitted every 72 hours.I understand the problem of the seller who bumps just to get his item back on the front page is not fair and I agree, also those that bump because a comment was added by another member. I think that threads that are updated with critical info. about pricing or avaliablity should be permitted to bump up every 72 hours. 14 days is too long.
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Unfortunately there is no way to do what you are asking.
Not in a way which Spark is open to at the moment, anyway.

Okay, I lie. There is one way... but implementing it would instantly destroy The Exchange and probably even create a wormhole.



The beauty of the new system is that you no longer need to bump for exposure.

Before, it was very easy to miss new threads, especially if you only checked in every couple of days. That was because each and every new reply posted (on any thread, be it 30 minutes old or 30 days old) would mix up the thread listing. Bumping may have given you some quick and dirty exposure, but it didn't last long and came at the cost of pushing someone else off the first page.

Now everyone is given equal exposure. Perhaps even more importantly, no thread should ever again be lost in the chaos. Whether you are advertising an abused Buck Bantam with a snapped off tip or a handful of Striders that went through a fire in Afganastan, but you fixed up and pimped out... it doesn't matter! Each thread will get the same amount of exposure as the other; no tedious bumping and rules-following required.
 
I have been watching the number of views on my for sale thread in the Custom Knives For Sale sub-forum since the default view on the forum was changed and it is down significantly from the number of views that were occurring before the change with a price change and the 72 hour bump.

I still think that 2 weeks to be able to re-list the item is too long. It should be one week. In addition, any thread that has a reasonable price change should be allowed to be re-listed since this is actually a new thread by changing a material element in the offer to sell.

This particular thread has been relegated to page four and is not getting hardly any views even though I have changed the price twice. I think that many members are not aware of the change and do not know that you can change the view to last post date rather than the original post date.

I have noticed that the threads are not getting bumped down as quickly. However, this is no solace for items that were already bumped down before the change and are not allowed to be re-listed. These threads are stuck in the "no views limbo". Any thread that was already posted prior to the change should be allowed to be re-listed.

In summary, this change has been beneficial in reducing the superfluous bumping of threads with BS posts. I still think that is does a disservice to members trying to sell their knives by reducing the price to gauge the market price. The seller does not always know what the market price is for a particular knife when listing the knife for sale. In many cases, members do not visit every day or even every three days and they will not see the threads unless they know to manually change the view hierarchy on the forum. Much of selling a particular knife is getting the right buyer to see the thread at the right time. Exposure sells knives as well as the pricing and the photos.

As far as this being like other forums or classified sections. I am unable to locate even one that prevents you from re-listing the item in a new thread or classified ad.
 
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I have to say once more that the new system is awesome :thumbup:

You actually get more exposure on the first and second page which before your for sale thread would have ended up on page 3,4, or even 5 by the end of the night with everyone bumping and adding new posts.

I say keep the new system :)

I'm batosai117 and I approve this message :D
 
Can't read all this thread so I don't know if it's been mentioned- but the WTB is gonna be tough to use like this. You have a day or two to get your thread spotted then you're off to the depths.

We need a more time depending on the knife- you want something rare and it will be impossible.
 
Just curious. Is there a setting that will change the amount of threads shown per page? If so, bumping it to 50, 75, even 100 instead of 25 in the exchange should make everybody happy.
 
Spark said:
Good question. I'm loathe to just prune out threads since people back out of deals all the time, but I do like to see people locking their threads when they are sold now. Much nicer.
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Spark, would it be possible to move all locked X threads to a forum in the Archives where they could still be searched but out of the way of the active threads? ...Or maybe a new sub-forum inside the X for these threads??
 
In Edit Options in your User CP, there is a setting Number of Posts to Show Per Page. I have mine adjusted to the highest available now, 40. I would be happy with the forum default as high as 100.
 
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