New Strider failure

darkestthicket said:
Why does everyone that defends strider have to be a spook, spook wannabe, socom wannabe or a huckster?
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For the same reason anyone who says they have a problem with them supposedly has an agenda most likely?

And it seems funny that no one has said anything about being junk until a Die Hard brings it up like someone else said it. Take this thread for example, the main person who keeps saying/hinting that they are junk is you when, in reality, none of the non die hards have said the same. Making the leap from "I have a Strider with some issues" to "Striders are Junk" always seem to come from the die hards. In fact, when I had my issues, which never mentioned anything being junk at all, Mick himself started saying that they were junk and inferring that I was the one who said it. I guess when you can't win a debate with the truth you have to resort to deflection?

oil

ps. In agreeance with dt I would change the "none of the non die hards have said the same" to "most of the non die hards don't say the same".:)
 
I do not have an agenda, I have seen posted pictures on strider complain threads that could have been fixed easily with a spanner. I like Strider, I like Busse, I like Chris Reeve (though i dont own any of these, but ill be the first to say that his one piece hollow knives are top notch), I like any knife that can be used for what I need.
I asked for the original poster to put up pictures, which is a common request for any knife problem here with people who can very easily diagnose a problem and reccomend solutions or to send it for replacement/refurbishing.

After I understood what the poster was saying, i totally agree that it was FUBAR and needed to be fixed or replaced. I never questioned him specificly other than asking for pictures, and asking if he got it from a licensed Strider dealer and not just an "internet company" that may or may not have sold it as new and it wasnt. capiche?
Oil, are you seriously saying that the posts previously all say Striders are great, they just have some Q/C issues and if you send it to them they will fix it and return it to you and everything will be fine? And that no one other than myself insinuated that they are junk?

Yeah they are junk, now send all of them to me. thanks.


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"I have seen posted pictures on strider complain threads that could have been fixed easily with a spanner." - i did not mean by saying this that every problem posted on BF could be fixed this way as is obvious to anyone that looks at the SLCC fixed blade. Just meant that SOME are easily fixed by this.
 
darkestthicket said:
Oil, are you seriously saying that the posts previously all say Striders are great, they just have some Q/C issues and if you send it to them they will fix it and return it to you and everything will be fine? And that no one other than myself insinuated that they are junk?
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"Great" is personal preference. Why can't it just be I bought a Strider the other day and it has some issues? Here are the factual issues I'm having. Not, I bought a Strider the other day and it's utter junk. One has facts, one has opinions.

And as far as someone just tightening the pivot themselves, how many people have spanner wrenches sitting around? You can buy a SpannerBaby for IIRC around $60 or try to make one yourself I spose but it ain't as easy as you state for people without specialized tools.

And I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, you seem to be an intellegent person willing to at least hear the other side of an argument. I'm just saying that the Junk comments are coming from you putting words in other posters mouths. (And don't get me totally wrong, some non Die Hards say they are junk too, IMHO it just seems like the Die Hards throw it out there a little more. (Not that they are junk but that that's what someone else has said.)(Even though they didn't.)) And this is my "opinion", and you know what they say about them.:)

oil
 
you know how it goes in these threads most of the time, and until I break a Strider, and get crappy customer service from them, I'll defend them. I am in no way saying that some people have made up their problems, this would be a rediculous statment for me to make, any knife can come with a defect.

After reviewing the SLCC that somone had previously posted problems with (somehow i missed that thread) I can understand that persons complaint entirely because he posted Pictures and everyone could see the problem immediatly.
I did not intend to question the integrity of this threads original poster, only that pictures do go farther than words in diagnosing the problem. I agree that he needs the knife fixed and if he chooses to lok tite the thumbstuds and fix it himself that is entirely up to him.

here is a hint for making a spanner, get a spark plug gap gauge (available at any automotive store or wal-mart), mark the width of the of the lugs recession with a magic marker and use a file to make it the right size, that will save you about 60-75$ right there. This takes maybe 15 minutes. you can replace the file with a dremel tool if you have one. at 3$ for a file or 50+$ for a dremel this is a very cost effective method that ANYONE with the use of their arms can do themselves.

I realize there are going to be problems, and of course they need to be shown on bladeforums for any knife to encourage the maker to higher feats of quality control, however it should be the same of all knifemakers. you see suggestions of "lock this thread" on other knife problem posts, this is usually not done, but you dont see ME stating "lock this thread its irrelevant" in any case.
 
darkestthicket said:
I realize there are going to be problems, and of course they need to be shown on bladeforums for any knife to encourage the maker to higher feats of quality control, however it should be the same of all knifemakers. you see suggestions of "lock this thread" on other knife problem posts, this is usually not done, but you dont see ME stating "lock this thread its irrelevant" in any case.
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Well said but I would add that if another maker had as many issues with their knives they would be talked about just as much. We don't discriminate even though some would have you believe we do. And if they didn't tighten their QC they would be talked about longer. Such is the case here.

oil
 
WadeF said:
So a higher price doesn't automatically mean the knife will be closer to perfect. People pay $500,000 to $1,000,000 for specialized sports cars that break down all the time while I'm cruising around in my $30,000 vehicle with no problems. However, my vehicle isn't going to perform like the high end sports car.
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I tried hardly but I can't easily distinguish performance advantage of (as, but not limited to, Strider) these. Titanium is the same, G10 is the same, S30V is the same. So instead of performance be it marketing more likely?
 
I have seen posted pictures on strider complain threads that could have been fixed easily with a spanner.
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Um ... do you ever read Bladeforums at all? There are posts complaining about problems that can be fixed by adjusting the pivot for every knife that has an adjustable pivot, and some that don't. Strangely enough, though, they don't usually provoke tirades. The usual response is people quite calmly telling the newbie to get a Torx wrench....
 
Oil, what you are saying may be true entirely but the posters who like to hose strider down at every available opportunity tend to get a little more vehement and personal about it, especially when they start insinuating every Strider carrier or enthusiast has to be an Airsofter, spook wanabe, armchair comando, mall ninja or LOTR fan. none of these are the case with me so i can only state what experiences I have had with strider :


1 Custom SMF nightmare - I broke the framelock, apparently from flicking it open way to hard/to often. It was fixed and returned in under a month, it was not my EDC so no big deal.
2 AR - no flaws at all.
3 Sng - Ditto, lockup is great, came sharper than any other knife i have save microtech
4 GB - I love the knife, its my edc rotation #1 choice on almost all occasions
5 AR Custom - The knife is perfect. Period. I would put it up against any CR in fit and finish.
6 - i have another AR on the way, when it gets here if its not pretty much perfect, ill be surprised, and ill be sure and post if its not.

Out of 5 that I have, only one had problems and it was fixed professionally and expediently. What more can I ask?

Again with the sillyness, No I never read Bladeforums at all. In fact I'm blind and have a seeing/typing Eye dog. And a torx wrench is not a spanner the last time i checked and as you state there are many posts with similar problems, me pointing out that this is easily fixed with a spanner for striders has what to do with me not reading BF posts?
 
huugh said:
I tried hardly but I can't easily distinguish performance advantage of (as, but not limited to, Strider) these. Titanium is the same, G10 is the same, S30V is the same. So instead of performance be it marketing more likely?
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Well, the point I was trying to make is if you want a Strider because you like the way it looks, the way it's built, etc, then you are going to pay more for it because it's a specialty item.
 
darkestthicket said:
1 Custom SMF nightmare - I broke the framelock, apparently from flicking it open way to hard/to often. It was fixed and returned in under a month, it was not my EDC so no big deal.
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Please explain: broke the framelock

And I agree with someone else who posted in this thread that I'd rather have the worst warranty in the biz and never need it as opposed to the best in the biz and have to use it more than once in my life.

oil
 
why explain? so i can be riddled with bullets immediatly and be told how stupid i am for paying so much for a knife that i had to send back to the strider spa after about 6 months?
 
It's sad that you feel you can't tell the truth about your experience with a product but I do understand.:(

oil
 
I sent you a PM about it. check your in box.if anyone wants to know how/why ill be glad to explain it, but not in this thread.

And i did tell the truth, i broke a strider framelock, i just dont feel the need to explain how without it being in a pm.
 
darkestthicket said:
I sent you a PM about it. check your in box.if anyone wants to know how/why ill be glad to explain it, but not in this thread.

And i did tell the truth, i broke a strider framelock, i just dont feel the need to explain how without it being in a pm.
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Out of curiosity and not because it is Strider, but because I would like to see where the lock bar broke and how the fracture looked like, could you please send me a pic of it to email? Thanks.
 
Dont have a pic, this was around octoberish I think, I, in my own stupidity didnt take a picture. After speaking with Oilman, I agree that it was probably a piece of the tang ramp that i either erroded from flipping open or snapped a small piece off of for those of you who are interested.

The deal was, I like flipping open anything that I can, in doing so I inadvertantly caused my knife to not lock up UNLESS you flicked it open, and then later, to not lock up solidly at all. I was told that either the framelock was to short (Oilman noted that they are CNC machined so this was probably not the case) or that I had eroded or snapped off a piece of the tang ramp (it was a very steep ramp). but it must have been on the backside because I couldnt see the break. I bought this from a reputable dealer, and it did lock up pretty snugly when i got it (though not as tight as some i have) so i dont blame the dealer, It was sent to Strider and fixed. problem solved. I didnt post this on BF as I was in MD for about a month straight without to much free time.

Edit to clarify, it was an SMF

if anyone has questions about this or how Strider was to deal with ill be glad to answer them via email.
 
DT,

I'd like to find out about it too, if you don't mind. Please PM me about what happened to your SnG framelock.

Thanks and happy holdiays!!!
 
Nope not so much. in an emergency probably. I bought a zero tolerance to have for flipping.

I crank my pivot down pretty good so that they wont open in my pocket so naturally I had to have a good strong flip to open the blade, as it turns out that is a bad combination. lol.

Nor do I think there is a framelock that I wouldnt have done this to overtime. Using the logic that its all steel vs Ti, no mythical "my strider can stop a mack truck or a 30-.06 shell" rhetoric here.
Also not that i have stated a few times that flipping is bad for knives, though not to many listen, I know this first hand. lol.

It was surprising that it happened but I can break just about anything.
 
thanks for the info.

At the risk of taking this thread in a new direction, I remember previous threads about whether flipping the blade open was abusive or not, and if knives where built purposely to take that or not.
 
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