New Strider failure

[Boats]

Hey Boats,



Boy, you sure hit the nail on the head! :jerkit::jerkit::jerkit:

I'm guessing that you're the "real deal" and not just a wannabe, hence, you're able to generalize a lot of Strider buyers with that statement you just made.:yawn:

Just the same, go buy whatever rocks your boat, but don't presume that most people who buy Striders are wannabes. I don't know who you are, but you sure as heck don't know who I am, so for you to make such an irresponsible statement, you must be a regular G.I. Joe - couch commando, that is!:barf:

Interesting that I never mentioned any attribute that is solely Strider's, but I get a gushing response worthy of an emotionally damaged teenage girl.

I could have just as easily been rattling off the attributes of an Ontario XM1 with the camo paint. Wait, maybe this one isn't overpriced?

Boats wrote:

People who overpay for poor ergonomics, too thick by half blunted edges, and fancy paint jobs, are paying for the privilege of becoming part of a marketing tall tale that impresses mostly the wannabes out there.

 

[EDCeeker]

$400 dosent get you a perfect knife. it just generally gets you a better knife than $100 would. (most times)

Really? You're kidding, right? The tounge-sticking-out smily implies you're joking.

I've got a $50 Spyderco, a $100 CRKT (that cost me $25), a $35 Camillus, and a $150 Fallkniven that are each perfect in fit, finish and function.

Oh, wait... Okay, the grind's a bit uneven on the CRKT, come to think of it.

If somebody sold me a freakin' $400 knife that wasn't at least perfect in fit, finish and function, it'd go back toute de suite and that's the last of me that maker or seller would ever see.

 

[darkestthicket]

The fighting man would probably love another mag of ammo or two as opposed to resorting to the use of any knife in combat.

Thats one thing you and I can agree on. But to reiterate, Strider's though some consider them bulky (not me, i like the feel), dull (again not me, they shave my arm, thats good enough) and the recipient of a fancy paint scheme (dude, they are stripes, you might like satin, mirror, DLC or god knows what but i like stripes!)

I still think that
A ) they are high quality, high durability folders and fixed blades, up to most any task.

B ) they are priced reasonably compared to other comparative knives in the market today.

C) fit and finish may not be up to your refined tastes, but I like a crude tank like appearance in my knives. It makes me more likely to use them vs keeping them a safe queen that has only cut up envelopes.
(here is an example of the above, I had a really nice Z McCarty Custom that I used for NOTHING because it was to pretty to use, ill never have that problem with a strider )

Edit : Boats, no need to call somone a gushing girl... even if it was funny.

 

[hardheart]

meh, I've seen a Ranger captain carrying a CRKT Desert Cruiser, an E7 with SF/airborne tabs whose favorite folders were a pair of G10 handled CS Recon 1s, an E5 with a CS mini pal on his lbe, and an E4 97E using a Spyderco civilian to cut up rags for weapons cleaning. Got a buddy in Iraq who bought himself a S&W tanto boot knife at the PX cause it looked cool.

 

[EDCeeker]

As has been noted before, their customer base actually takes a sort of perverse pride in having to have their knives fixed.

Ah, kinda like Harley owners of days gone by?

 

[hardheart]

heck, the only way to know your motor is running is if it's vibrating the mounts loose.

 

[EDCeeker]

Im just pointing out what many other people, and moderators have said, whether mick is a good or bad guy he makes a hell of a knife.

Isn't that the point of contention this thread's all about?

To insult him or his products without fear of him responding is kind of cowardly if you ask me.

Word is he still has an account here, what's preventing him responding here?

edit : was the internet company selling directly from strider or were they repurchased?

You really don't want to believe this knife was defective fromthe manufacturer, do you?

 

[3Guardsmen]

Whether right or wrong, somones Armed Forces history should not be drug onto a forum, EVER.

Even after the very person, themself, has posted statements somewhat referencing it?
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1233848&postcount=16
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1231694&postcount=27


Edited to add: I don't like the companies alleged to have been involved with the public background trashing, and I would never consider purchasing their products again. However, if a manufacturer posts on a public, primarily consumer populated forum, referencing their "experience" or "service", I do think it is fair for a consumer to research the validity of any claims made.

Regards,
3G

 

[EDCeeker]

(just like anyone who defends Strider's on a forum where Strider's are thought of as overpriced junk by the majority of the forum).

Criticising a maker for poor QC doesn't automatically equate to asserting the maker's products are all "junk." It just means the writer believes the maker's QC is poor. This seems to the the criticism of Strider I see most often. Being as I have seen this criticism several times, ISTM there's likely something to it.

Tell me: Would you be reacting so negatively to criticism of a maker's QC if it were anybody but Strider? Could it be that Strider fans are perhaps a bit overly sensitive to criticism of Strider's QC?

 

[n00b3r]

Well, I for one wouldn't be defending BUCK knives, as I never had the chance to own one. However, if someone decideds to attack emerson or CRK, then I'll be making a few defensive posts.
Just got this a while ago:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/peterliu511990/Custom Knives/IMG_0049.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/peterliu511990/Custom Knives/IMG_0051.jpg
Looks fine to me.


Well, the blade could be a little more centered ;-)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/peterliu511990/Custom Knives/IMG_0053.jpg

 

[roughedges]

Once a person makes a claim then the door has been opened to discussing that claim especially when there is much evidence disputing it. This is true whether on the internet or in real life and is not directed specifically at any one person or manufacturer.

Might be hard for some to handle but its the truth.

 

[punisher_nbi45]

Interesting that I never mentioned any attribute that is solely Strider's, but I get a gushing response worthy of an emotionally damaged teenage girl.

I could have just as easily been rattling off the attributes of an Ontario XM1 with the camo paint. Wait, maybe this one isn't overpriced?

Yeah, boats, you're not really attacking strider, you're just making a general statement that just happens to be in a Strider-related thread.

WHATEVER...................

Oh, and btw, nice mention about the emotionally damaged teenage girl bit. It just so happens that my division investigates sexual abuse and other related crimes, and with that, here's what I got to say to you:

"IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE!"

 

[darkestthicket]

Edceeker - Yes, Striders ARE a hell of a knife.

Yes, Mick still has an active account that last posted in 2005. He doesnt post here because he could give a sh1t less what some of you think, period.

I dont know if it was made deffective by Strider or after it left Strider, either is possible, I was asking a question that never really was answered. I am not in denial that Strider never makes mistakes, I had one custom come to me that had to be returned, but im not b1tching about it because I realize that with any maker this can happen. It was fixed and returned in a timely manner and I recieved courteous attention. I was satisfied, hence I will continue to buy, carry, sell and trade striders.

3Guardsmen - I can understand researching the validity of publicly made claims, Mick explained his side of the story which was slightly different than some of his more hardcore followers made it out to be, but his statement was still not entirely false, truthfully, i could give a sh1t if he was a ranger or not, he CAN make a knife that works.

Edceeker - Again, the majority of this forum are Busse, Spyderco and Benchmade fans, and Strider is slammed for every little thing anyone finds wrong with their knives, even one reported blade with terrible blade wobble that could easily be fixed with a spanner (not the one that started this post) and some like myself get tired of hearing b.s. crybabying.

And no, If this was about cold steel, chris reeve etc I wouldnt react so much, though i would kick in a comment or two in a Chris Reeve thread defending them if i thought the accusations were silly. That should tell you something.

Ok off the soapbox now, Im done arguing, dont make me come in here again!

 

[Boats]

Yeah, boats, you're not really attacking strider, you're just making a general statement that just happens to be in a Strider-related thread.

WHATEVER...................

Oh, and btw, nice mention about the emotionally damaged teenage girl bit. It just so happens that my division investigates sexual abuse and other related crimes, and with that, here's what I got to say to you:

"IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE!"

Maybe it's time to come up for air? You identify with victimhood a little too readily.

Maybe it's time to start a new thread on the phenomenon of spooks, spook wannabes, SOCOM types and SOCOM wannabes huckstering knives?

Yes, I think it is.

 

[darkestthicket]

Maybe it's time to start a new thread on the phenomenon of spooks, spook wannabes, SOCOM types and SOCOM wannabes huckstering knives?

Yes, I think it is.

Why does everyone that defends strider have to be a spook, spook wannabe, socom wannabe or a huckster? oh you left out mall ninja. seriously, whats next? my hoo-hoo is bigger, or my dad can totally whip your dad with his mad karate/gungfu/shao-lin kickboxing skillz?


Some people who use striders are in need of a thick, bulky, practicly indestructible knife for everyday use when 4-wheeling, trail riding, hiking, camping, etc and a strider suits these purposes well.

 

[Boats]

I'm talking about the makers themselves being the wannabes, not the fanboy buyers.

 

[darkestthicket]

Well after getting an "infraction", Im done with this, I guess you cant argue with anti-Strider people on this forum.


Use whatever knife you like, if it performs for you, continue to do so, if it doesnt, find another one you like, that suits your job tasks and your aesthetic taste. That is the point I was trying to make.

 

[j.h]

Strider folders rock. They are expensive, but they are built like a tank and backed by great service. The 5 I have or have had have all been excellent. One of the things that really adds value in my opinion, is the resale value. Not too many knives can be used and abused, and still sell for 75% of their MSRP.

I love my Sebenza, its in a different class. I love my Spyders, Benches, Kershaws, etc., they all have a place in my heart. Bottom line: we all like what we like. Just because I like Strider products doesn't mean I do not like others.

 

[Cougar Allen]

Well after getting an "infraction", Im done with this, I guess you cant argue with anti-Strider people on this forum.

Now that's an unfair characterization of this forum. Darkestthicket earned himself a minor infraction for using inappropriate language in another thread. That has nothing to do with arguing with anti-Strider people. You can still express your feelings, just say "reproduce."

 

[WadeF]

If somebody sold me a freakin' $400 knife that wasn't at least perfect in fit, finish and function, it'd go back toute de suite and that's the last of me that maker or seller would ever see.

The problem here is the $400 and over knives are usually custom or limited production pieces. They are made for a niche market. They aren't selling them by the thousands, or tens of thousands, so they have to charge more. If you want to buy a specialized product that does something you want, but isn't something the masses are interested in, you are going to pay more for it. If I want Mamoth ivory or some other unique material built into a knife and hire a custom maker to do it, I pay a lot more than I would for a production knife. If the knife isn't perfect that's the chance I have to take to get the knife I want. I can always send it back and the maker will usually make it right.

So a higher price doesn't automatically mean the knife will be closer to perfect. People pay $500,000 to $1,000,000 for specialized sports cars that break down all the time while I'm cruising around in my $30,000 vehicle with no problems. However, my vehicle isn't going to perform like the high end sports car.