New trend, everything is now a Bugout killer

Sibyrnes said:
Here's my Bugout killer next to it's victim:

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Well it didn't kill my Bugout but that Taggedout replaced it as my EDC.
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Wow I was going to post something along these lines. I had a regular “ranger green” bugout and also the s90v/CF version and I decided to sacrifice my regular version to raise funds for the taggedout. Definitely won’t ditch my fancy bugout for multiple reasons but a PJ taggedout beats a PJ bugout in my opinion
 
madcap_magician said:
Do you remember when everyone was trying to make a Sebenza killer? The Bradley Alias and a couple Benchmades were supposed to be the poor man's Sebenza that was 'just as good.'
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If anything, the idea of an "XYZ Killer" is really something of a misnomer. You could offer steak at the same price as a cheeseburger on your menu, and plenty of people will still order the burger. It's the same case with knives, honestly.
 
Sibyrnes said:
Here's my Bugout killer next to it's victim:

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Well it didn't kill my Bugout but that Taggedout replaced it as my EDC.
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The TaggedOuts I've handled have definitely felt like the better cutters, that's for sure. For what it is, the Bugout's blades should be thinner, honestly.
 
Sibyrnes said:
Imagine, a moderator trying to stir up trouble ;)

By the way, I have a Narrows and love it!
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Lol. 👊🏼

The Narrows is a good option. Just not readily available and about 14 times the price.
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
Lol. 👊🏼

The Narrows is a good option. Just not readily available and about 14 times the price.
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I've held a couple, and don't understand them in the slightest. I wouldn't want to try to be pushing a knife that thin through material trying to fight back, like cardboard, or even using it on a camping trip. It seems primarily to have been Benchmade being like "We want to make a knife that's as close to 2-D as possible!". I really do not see any use-case for a knife that thin, unless it were a small gent's folder. And in that realm, there are a lot of knives I'd carry before I bought and carried one of those, that's for sure.
 
Quiet said:
I've held a couple, and don't understand them in the slightest. I wouldn't want to try to be pushing a knife that thin through material trying to fight back, like cardboard, or even using it on a camping trip. It seems primarily to have been Benchmade being like "We want to make a knife that's as close to 2-D as possible!". I really do not see any use-case for a knife that thin, unless it were a small gent's folder. And in that realm, there are a lot of knives I'd carry before I bought and carried one of those, that's for sure.
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Actually…stop making perfectly good points that I agree with. 🤣😂
 
Smaug said:
The thing about the Bugout and a lot of other Benchmade knives is that the DESIGN is original. It was designed and produced in the USA and it actually created the market for all these "Bugout Killers".
Same for the Axis Lock, Griptilian, balisong... They are the genuine original. Even at their rather high current pricing, they are affordable for a genuine original. They create a product definition, design the product from scratch to meet that definition. It turns out that the Bugout really did fill a niche, as we can tell by sales.

Compare this to another product that is often-copied, a Rolex watch. Those are starting at what, $7k? and imitators are starting at $70. Move the decimal two places left. Watches with similar performance are maybe $700. Most people can't justify the price of The Original, and it's understanding and Rolex doesn't give a damn about those people.

I'm glad to support Benchmade even if only indirectly. When the original owner paid full price, he supported Benchmade directly. When I bought it from him and he got most of his money back, that was part of why he was willing to pay top dollar when he bought it. I've got 4 Benchmades now, haven't yet bought one new. I just can't do it. I wish I would've bought one of their balisongs 10-20 years ago when they were still somewhat reasonable.

It comes down to whether it's worth it to you to support an American company and American labor at some extra cost, or if you're one of those people who are only looking for a good value and don't care who you're supporting. (you're supporting companies without original ideas, except small variations on existing ideas from companies like Benchmade)

These days, I try to support the original designer and bonus points if they're American. It means I'm going for quality and originality instead of quantity.
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With all due respect, there's no need to make such a big deal out of it. Anyone listening to you will think that the first knife in the world was designed by benchmade. Benchmade is not the rolex of the knife world so this kind of example is meaningless. Everyone pays Rolex what it is worth, whether they are interested in a watch or not. Benchmade is not in such a position. If you wanted to make such an analogy, you should have given another watch company as an example. For example, a watch company that is expensive but only appreciated by its fans. I'm sorry, but there are many companies that produce original designs without being inspired by benchmade knives. And if one digs deep enough, I'm sure one can find a case where benchmade was inspired by other knife companies. The knife world has reached such a point today that purchasing quality materials and original designs at affordable prices is now a standard. There is no excuse for not meeting this standard by hiding behind an old reputation. It's a good thing to praise a company you love, but it should be in moderation. Such definitive judgments on such relative issues are not correct.

Note: Axis lock is not benchmade that designed it, but benchmade that only bought it.

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elevator man said:
There's no such thing as a glock killer. They are reliable like the sun coming up.

On topic though I agree with danger zone. Benchmade leaves themselves open to "bugout killers" alot to their overinflated prices. There's no value in buying a BM. They are indeed nice knives but cost is unproportional to what your getting. Which makes knives like spyderco or deka or a host of others look more attractive.
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Ha, S&W's M&P is the Glock Killer. A 1911 grip angle as John Browning and the Good Lord intended, not Gaston Glock's goofy pointing brick.

I like my Bugout(grey G10,20CV) when I need something with very little print, otherwise I carry a PM2 for real work.
 
All this talk about Bugout killers...WTF is a Bugout, and why are people so concerned over what can (or can't) kill it?
 
Companies like Glock and Benchmade know that:

A: They have a lot of fans who will always buy from them
B: Name recognition

Therefore
C: They can charge what they want because they will always sell to A&B.

Also, due to that name recognition, Benchmade (and others) make a fortune at sporting good stores where they can charge full or near full MSRP because people don't know better.
 
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Just kidding, sort of...I have a basic idea what it is. After just a little thought, I'm wondering if I might be a Bugout killer - to the best of my knowledge, one has never come within 10 ft of me. Maybe I secrete some natural Bugout repellent that could be bottled and sold (Bugout Spray!). As long as it stays far enough away to not present a threat, I don't see any need to kill one.
 
K.O.D. said:
Companies like Glock and Benchmade know that:

A: They have a lot of fans who will always buy from them
B: Name recognition

Therefore
C: They can charge what they want because they will always sell to A&B.

Also, due to that name recognition, Benchmade (and others) makeva fortune at sporting good stores where they can charge full or near full MSRP because people don't know better.
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Well said
 
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