New TV Survival Show - Alone

I've enjoyed reading these comments even more than the show. Ha ha. Overall, I like the show, and as some have said if there is a second season changes might be made. Being almost three weeks into their experience I wonder if the guys may start to just lay around to conserve calories.
 
I noticed one of the contestants had a quiver of arrows inside his shelter, the shafts looked straight, I wonder how he attached the fletching and what materials were used for the arrow heads. That seems like a major accomplishment, evens the odds against predators, and game changer for killing game.
 
Yeah the bow and arrows were one of the options. I wonder if the producers would pay the fines or if bears were in season. Bear roast and a nice underlay.. Just saying:)
 
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Yeah the bow and arrows were one of the options. I wonder if the producers would pay the fines or if bears were in season. Bear roast and a nice underlay.. Just saying:)
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I believe it was on First Nations land... government regulation may not apply.


Sounds like Mitch's bow was 48#... a well placed arrow could take down larger game.
 
The way I understand it, and I could be wrong, Hunting can take place at any time by a member of the tribe, which isn't something that can just be bestowed upon anyone. Hunting would come in under provincial law, and would be possible, the bow season should be pretty long. Then its just a matter of the guys having the right license, which for a non-resident might be pretty expensive. There might also be a restriction regarding needing a guide, but I don't know for sure, easy to look up, can't be bothered.

For the purposes of the filming, my suspicion is that any animal killed in self defense would be treated as it is normally, in that you don't get to keep the hide, (although you would have to turn it in at some point, probably when you are done sleeping on it) a bear that was hunted becomes a different story. If he had the adequate legal gear (18kg/40lb draw, 2.2cm/0.86inch head), the tribe might be able to allow the hunt, I don't know. Different tribes have differing levels of autonomy from the provincial gov't so its within the realm of possibility that its been figured out. A bear is a lot of meat for one guy to process, so I'm not sure it would be a smart idea. A deer maybe, but we arn't seeing footage of a lot of those, and not much evidence of other animals around that would be worth hunting. Don't need a bow to take down a banana slug.
 
That's kinda what I was wondering if they had agreements in place. Probably. Cutting down trees shooting game is all licensed or illegal.

Or the money guys are ok paying the fines
 
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My suspicion is that the show had everything set up in advance and hunting for subsistence is allowed. You could say the same thing about fishing. In season? License?
 
On First Nations Land laws are different and decisions are left up to the Chief or the tribe. Most likely it was a monetary agreement. Discovery Channel is more about money than well made content. Alone is a great concept but the show is extremely poorly produced in order to make.... more money. The result is that its hard to watch and follow with the show jumping around one camper to the next. The idea is to make the viewer watch the entire hour packed full of commercials and then bring closure and conclude the show in the last few minutes while creating the cliff hanger for next week. The PVR is the way to go to watch this kind of chopped up mess of what is otherwise a very interesting subject, but it is still a pain. However, like most I'm waiting for the next episode.
 
I was checking the contestants bios and load outs, looks like 4 of them took a bow and 6 arrows. Ironically two of them have already tapped out. IMHO the last one standing will be the one with the mental toughness as " hereisthedeal " has eloquently posted #208.
 
I find it easier to shuffle back and forth using fast forward and reverse functions through the whole show using the PVR to piece together the stories of each camper. Better than watching the chopped up production mess. The problem is less to do with the commercials but rather to make the show easier to follow.
 
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I noticed one of the contestants had a quiver of arrows inside his shelter, the shafts looked straight, I wonder how he attached the fletching and what materials were used for the arrow heads. That seems like a major accomplishment, evens the odds against predators, and game changer for killing game.
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From a few of the participants over on BCUSA, they said they were provide hunting licenses (I'm assuming fishing as well); not sure if they included bear or cougar, but I would also assume that killing for self-defense would have been legally covered. They were provided flares and bear-spray which would have worked on the cougars and wolves as well.

Much like Rick, I grew up in the area (Olympic National Forest in my backyard) and for those unfamiliar with the conditions, it can be pretty oppressive mentally as much a physical or skill challenge. Most of these guys are outside their environmental comfort zone and it's easy to criticize from the couch. I still like the premise of the show, even acknowledging it's a production for TV entertainment. This is a little like Les Stroud's old "Survivorman" on steroids. I like that it's as much a personal challenge as it is a competition of "last man standing". None of these guys were unskilled or incompetent chumps; they all have a decent level of credibility. What is interesting is how the isolation and unfamiliar environment really impact the psychological aspect. I can understand the predatory threat for those that don't live around such high-density populations, but that is another aspect that is easier to discount from the comfort of one's couch. The physical threat is real, but the probability is still low...the psychological impact can be tremendous and it's not something you can ignore. Still, it's an interesting show and better than most; it's more realistic with a common sense approach of actually having a few items in addition to skill.

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The thing that disappointed me with most of the men, was half the show is them whining and crying. Get on with it. The short time it took for many of them to drop out is silly.

Even my wife said she didn't care to watch the program anymore if it is about grown men acting stupid, f'n babies she said. :rolleyes:

You see if it were a boy scout group or young teenagers, I could understand them being nervous and not liking it.

The men are expeirenced outdoor guys or they wouldn't have been picked to go. They have ample gear to make it tolerable. I understand it sucks but I had it much worse in the service. Cold, hungry, and wet for weeks at a time, I hated it and won't hunt or work in the rain :) When I got out, I had trouble adjusting as a civilan and lived in state parks with American Indians while working construction . I did have a tent but it was harder than Motel 6. Once married I took the kids camping all the time till they were teenagers and they do good now. Elk hunting, camping by myself, and taking off to get straight again alone in the woods, are good memories, and if I didn't have stage 4 cancer 67 yrs old, I would be out alone again. I take my grandsons out when I can, and they do damn good too !

I'm sorry but that TV show is pretty lame imo.
 
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Only the emotional things are lame. The rest of it is pretty interesting. I often think with regard to the emotional aspects is that it was a message to their family as much as anything else. The show producers seem to be able to capture the video remotely unless we don't see the use of a radio once a participant gives up. It would be tough to be in this environment alone for weeks without any forseeable end to it. If they knew.... just three more days.... it wouldn't be as hard on them. But they aren't in control of that aspect.
 
Why go on the program ? They are not "one" with themselves, still mentally attached to other "things". They got old but never grew up. :(
 
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