New ZT0550 Thread !!!

bearcut said:
Maybe nobody here wants to circulate a potentially flawed knife. Warm and fuzzy notwithstanding.
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Hey, I am a big boy.... I am willing to take the "risk".

I'll be happy to buy your "potentially flawed knife"... as you call it. :rolleyes:
You seem so unhappy, so what's the holdup??????
Get rid of it and get back your warm fuzzy feeling again. :thumbup: ;)
Then you can stop your bitchin' and moaning about a simple oversight. :)

In fact, as far as I am concerned; a few have crossed the line in this thread....
....and it is pathetic. :thumbdn:

I understand if someone is somewhat disappointed that an oversight like this happened.
But in the big scheme of things ..... so what.
It was a mistake, simple as that.

But for a very few to say some of the things that were said in this thread..
........shows a complete & total lack of class.

And Thomas W has been treated like a dog by a select few..
....again, pitiful and showing no class by the ones that did. :thumbdn:

Of course this whole rant is a waste of time,
...."cause those who 'hear' it don't need to and those that need to never will". ;)
 
Of course this whole rant is a waste of time, because at this point, you are the only one stirring the pot. bearcut's last response was not.
 
Behind all this bickering, name calling, finger pointing, jabbing, and nonsense lies a really fantastic knife. Enough with all this. Step back from all the nitpicking and take a look at what you're holding in your hand. The 0551 is great product.
 
I love the blade shape. I love ZT knives and the company that makes them. I have called ZT several times for production dates on my newer ZT knives that are no longer date stamped. They were very professional and were glad to look up the production dates on my individual ZT knives. Absolutely class act. I was on the initial list for this knife but had other commitments and took my name off the list. I will buy the production version of this knife when it is available. A sprint run is just that. A preproduction trial run. Its not a production knife....I repeat, Its not a production knife. Errors and production anomalies can and do happen. Its part of the risk you take for the bragging rights of having the very first version of a knife. The rust is just a minor teething problem that the company admits was unfortunate and is glad to rectify the problem. Just roll with it and be glad you are fortunate enough to own a sprint run knife. ZT is a very honorable and respectable company and has stood behind all of their knives.
 
I agree with post #'s 943,944 & 945.
And the gentlemen who wrote them,eloquently.
Time to move on....
 
I have now had some time with #12. Mine had none of the issues described in this thread. F&F is excellent, grinds are clean and the edge is beautiful. The thing that really makes this knife great in my opinion is the way it feels in my hand. I have not had a knife, production or custom, that felt this good except maybe the Gaylean Pro Series JYD II.

On another note. I wiped mine down with some tuff cloth solution and have no real concerns about corrosion.

Thanks Kershaw & ZT
 
mystro said:
I love the blade shape. I love ZT knives and the company that makes them. I have called ZT several times for production dates on my newer ZT knives that are no longer date stamped. They were very professional and were glad to look up the production dates on my individual ZT knives. Absolutely class act.
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That is good to know and I am looking forward to receiving my 0551 still despite the problems and I like my 0350CB which doesn't have any of the issues noted for the 0551.

mystro said:
I was on the initial list for this knife but had other commitments and took my name off the list. I will buy the production version of this knife when it is available. A sprint run is just that. A preproduction trial run. Its not a production knife....I repeat, Its not a production knife.
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I beg to differ, this is absolutely a production knife, whether it is the first 1,000, the last 1,000, or anything in between, sprint run or regular production, etc. This isn't a "preproduction", it was the production of 1,000 knives labeled a "sprint run", some knife manufacturers may make less than 1,000 units, never call it a sprint run, and it is still a production knife.

mystro said:
Errors and production anomalies can and do happen. Its part of the risk you take for the bragging rights of having the very first version of a knife.
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I agree mistakes do happen, but they don't have to happen and they certainly aren't a requirement to assume mistakes or errors just to have the first version of one.

mystro said:
The rust is just a minor teething problem that the company admits was unfortunate and is glad to rectify the problem. Just roll with it and be glad you are fortunate enough to own a sprint run knife.
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Minor? Again, depends on who you ask as demonstrated in this thread. Many of these units will be "collectors" and I doubt any of those people would claim this rust is "minor". Even many "users" probably don't want rusty liners, if they did, they wouldn't be planning to return the afflicted unit to ZT to remedy the problem before they begin or continue using.

mystro said:
ZT is a very honorable and respectable company and has stood behind all of their knives.
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Indeed that appears to be the case and I hope everyone ends up with a knife they can be happy with.

Regards,

Rich - not a fanboy nor a troll.
 
Thomas W said:
Well it looks as though the there was a QC issue with the liner (finish) on some of the knives. If it makes a few of you feel better, there was a multitude of employees that were written up over the oversight, and a 6 year employee of whom was of value was fired over the incident.

Certainly we apologize to those that received the 0551 and were unsatisfied. In an effort to make things right, we would like to offer up picking up your knives and re-working them into the condition you have come to expect from ZT.

If you have a 0551 that has an issue, please call Customer Service at 800-325-2891, and they will issue a call tag. This will be a free pick up. Once we receive the knife, we will do the repairs, and get you back the knife at no charge to you.

Hopefully this will help to eliminate any harm done, and thanks very much for your patience.

As to the lock, there have been many discussions on proper positioning and lock travel. There is a lot of subjectivity and I believe personal preference really takes over. I guess I would say for you to return your knife to Dave, or send the piece in for a look should you feel the lock is defective.

On a personal note, I have to say I’m disappointed in many of the attitudes I read here, and I trust you understand that our intentions on this knife were to satisfy the demand we heard specifically from the members on this forum. This project was again not a moneymaker for us, and has now become even more painful. I guess I hoped for more understanding, as we built this for you, but perhaps my assumption was premature and ultimately presumptuous.

In, any case, again I apologize for those of you who received a knife that had a liner issue, and we look forward to making it right, and bringing you satisfaction with your ZT.
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I've only read part of the discussion and understand that some people are dissapointed about this and this is a very unfortunate situation when viewed from the manufacturer's standpoint.

But to fire someone over this???

Shouldn't this at least be a 2 man problem? The one forgetting to do the final finish and the person that does Quality Control??

I understand it's a bummer for you guys at kershaw and also for the knife guys here. But firing the employee for this is a little harsh if you ask me and it looks like he's just been made the scapegoat
 
Hard use? I think so, 50 pound brick of rubber turned into 6 pieces
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Does anyone have the new 551 and a 300 (30x) model as well? I am going to buy a ZT knife but am unsure as to how they compare in terms of size. A picture would be great.

Jroden5446 your pictures/use are awesome. I work in construction too- excavation- and use my knives but not as frequently as you I'd say, nor for the same purposes. I do cut road fabric and insulating foam though! PS- your hat looks like some of my pants!:D
 
CLBME said:
Does anyone have the new 551 and a 300 (30x) model as well? I am going to buy a ZT knife but am unsure as to how they compare in terms of size. A picture would be great.

Jroden5446 your pictures/use are awesome. I work in construction too- excavation- and use my knives but not as frequently as you I'd say, nor for the same purposes. I do cut road fabric and insulating foam though! PS- your hat looks like some of my pants!:D
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Thanks! Lol, I have pants that look like that as well, I'm looking forward to seeing how well elmax holds up after a week in my sweaty pocket
 
What a thread... I've read it like a novel. Definitely, I'll buy one of these new ZT knives, like it a lot. I have 2 ZT knives ( 200 and 302 ) and the fit& finish are very good, at least... I have no fear that the production knife will be OK.
 
Rockin' in the pocket today! Hahaha - it's so big though I can't fit my hand in my pocket! Heck, the knife's pretty big too!:eek:

I peeled the liner off and everything still looks great. Cuts like a champ too! This weekend I'm going to edge pro it and take it out back for some yard cleanup. The handle shape really allows for some forceful push cuts which is nice but you can also choke back on it and hack stuff if need be. This is certainly my "user" "hard use knife"

Oh yeah, serial number 0310 :D
 
I wish we could just close this thread and start anew.

Us knife enthusiasts are perfectly capable of seeing past this one issue and we are capable of understanding that this isn't a design flaw. This is obviously a very fine, dare I say world class knife. This issue has no effect on my desire to own a couple of these awesome knives. And I'm sure most here feel the same. No one likes to send in a long awaited knife immediatley but at least they can.

Everytime I catch up on this thread I have a sick feeling because we are all usually so cordial with each other if not almost friends and now that this one issue has come up everything has spiraled downward into a futile war of words and the allegiances are front and center. Frankly, the most desirable position to take on this matter is a neutral position. The so called fanboy responses are no better than the so called whiner responses. The motives are oppostite but the effect of each mindset serves the same outcome. And that outcome certainly isn't harmony and civility.

I was surprised when I realized what happened. Everyone was. EVERYONE was.

I just wish we could put an end to this thread now and start a new one somehow. This is my favorite place to be and when each visit to this forum makes me ill, my world isn't as happy as I want it to be.

I can't wait until this bump in the road is 1000 miles behind us.
 
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zyhano said:
I've only read part of the discussion and understand that some people are dissapointed about this and this is a very unfortunate situation when viewed from the manufacturer's standpoint.

But to fire someone over this???

Shouldn't this at least be a 2 man problem? The one forgetting to do the final finish and the person that does Quality Control??

I understand it's a bummer for you guys at kershaw and also for the knife guys here. But firing the employee for this is a little harsh if you ask me and it looks like he's just been made the scapegoat
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Let's try to keep this about the knife. Thanks.
 
SPXTrader said:
Really?
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Yes really, I am not going to make excuses for ZT's mistakes or attempt to minimize the mistakes or overlook them. Nor am I going to crucify them or criticize their handling of the matter where I have no first-hand knowledge (i.e., employee discipline, etc.).

Regards,

Rich
 
Jroden5446 said:
Hard use? I think so, 50 pound brick of rubber turned into 6 pieces
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Sweet!

Awesome pics, Jroden5446!

Keep them coming!

You are inspiring me to use this bad boy for everything and anything!

best regards -

mqqn
 
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