Next Project... a take down.

Who did you order your GIB kit from? Get in touch with him and ask about the flat platen arm.
Most of the GIB kits have it as an option in the original order.
 
Yeah, I paid about $20 extra for it from Polarbear Forge. I know you can buy it seperately from him.
 
Thanks for the offer to help, guys, but I must not have made myself clear. When I ordered the GIB from polarbearforge, I bought both platens (standard and multi). I did not see any option to order anything more from them. What I didn't get were the wheels or the flat grinding surface. I know how to make a flat grinding surface. I just don't know what to order to complete the platen (most especially the wheels). The Beaumont site offers wheels, but not the sort of idler wheels I'd expect (all contact wheels). I was told the wheels sold by usaknifemaker and sunray are inferior, so I avoided them.

In short, I don't know how to finish the standard platen... and it's not for want of knowing how to drill a hole in a piece of angle bar.
 
BTW, as regards the takedown project, I made very little progress yesterday. I was snowed in all day, but we lost power at about 7:30 a.m. and it didn't get turned on again until after midnight. It was a long, boring and frustrating day.
 
I've found the wheels at usaknifemaker to work very well. No quality issues so far. For the flat platen, you just need a couple of 2" aluminum wheels, the angle iron, and whatever you want to use as a liner on the platen. Am I still missing what you're asking?
 
I don't have a GIB so I don't know if it applies, but my platen wheels (BEE grinder) are also contact wheels, which are nice for doing smaller radiuses.
 
Now that I'm done messing around with the bench, and still waiting for the aluminum wheels to arrive before I return to messing with the grinder, I spent some time today starting on the hand guard. I took a 10 inch piece of plain Lowes welding steel, rounded the edges and drilled/filed the slot for the tang.

I am expecting to receive a package tomorrow containing the aluminum wheels and a brad bar that I'll use for the forward part of the guard.

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Yesterday I received a box from USAKnifemakers which included a big, heavy, thick bar of brass. I cut a 2.25 inch piece off and drilled the holes that will become the tang slot for this forward piece of the guard. I felt it was important to get this piece complete before the blade disappeared into the HT black hole so that I could continue work on the hand guard (i.e. know where and how to bend it).

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Very cool, I have been waiting for progress on this one.
 
Yesterday I used the grinder to remove the decarb... made a bit of a mess of the blade, but it is now pretty close to zero edge, and will sand down nicely.

I spent some time thinking about the guard solution too. This one will be a full hand guard, so I need to think it through more carefully. Here's what I have so far in the way of plans.

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Thanks for the link. That was very helpful. Actually, I was intrigued that he did the piercing first... then I saw him say "motto is bend first, pierce later." I already had that part figured out from the last time I bent a piece of pierced steel and ended up with bent scrap. ;)


- Greg
 
Thanks to the thread Patrice pointed me to I have started work on a guard bending jig. I was previously going to do it "by eye" as I did with the guard on the dagger... but this way seems less error prone.

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The jig is being made from the 5" piece of bar steel cut from the tool arm bar I bought from onlinemetals.com.
 
A metal forming jig is nice, but you will find that a piece of 4X4 or 2X4, shaped on the grinder to the desired shape, will work equally well.....and shape much easier. Work the guard around it in slow bends, using a nylon or wooden mallet ( a big nylon mallet is cheap at HF). Other choices are regular forging hammer with a clean face, or a brass/copper/lead/rawhide mallet.

Use any wood available, but oak is super if you have some around. A pressure treated piece of scrap from the neighbors deck project will work well,too.

Clamp the wood in the vise, and work slowly. Anneal the metal first, and as needed again while working it. On tight bends, heat it to red with a torch, and bend it on a piece of 1" round pipe ( or whatever size curve is needed) to get a smooth curve.

Sand the D-guard with as much attention as the blade...people will look at it as much as the bevels.


Some other tips:
Use a thicker piece of stock that the desired final guard will be. This allows for several things-
1) filing and sanding.
2) shaping to a slightly domed cross section.
3) tapering the guard toward the ends, making the center thicker.
4) make it wider in the knuckle area than at the bends. (like Greg has drawn)
A flat piece of steel bent into a "U" and stuck on a knife looks really cheap.


Harvey Dean's "Making the D-guard Bowie"video has excellent details on this subject.


Final tip that applies to many knives, guards in general, and especially D-guards:
Don't over embellish the guard or knife. Simple is good sometimes. Think of it as a naked lady...it is the curves that make her attractive, not the jewelry she is wearing.
 
Thanks, Stacy. I appreciate the assistance. I'm not entirely settled on the shape of the guard yet, so I'll bear your advice in mind. Though my crude rendering doesn't show it, the plan is that there be no edges or corners on the guard, just curves. I don't want there to be anything for the fingers to scrape against. I'll keep playing with the shape until I have something a bit sexier.
 
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