No Walking Dead thread

emt1581 said:
My money says a Gerber. Let's face it, Daryl was only given a Busse because it looked badass!! Otherwise Gerber will smear it's feces all over this series until they stop paying to do so.

-Emt1581
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I've had a few Gerbers, they are the only knives I have owned that would actually rust sitting in a drawer in my den. On top of that, I would regularly bend
the tip if I stuck it in anything other than balsa wood, seemed like really soft metal.

Nice spectrum of quality they got going on that show. Busse's for the really cool character, Spyderco for the midrange, and Gerbercrap. :)
 
darkdomino said:
There is a soft spot by the scalp, I think, where the two skull plates meet... Hypothetically you could stab that.
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The suture you are referring to is the anterior fontanelle. Also called "Bregma." the median time of closure is 13.8 months of age. The easiest way to penetrate into the skull is through the orbit (eye). The bone there is 1-3mm thick and was the historical entry point for frontal lobotomies.
 
As far as the stabbing through the skull goes, I guess I assumed they were going with the traditional zombie movie thing where they get all soft and mushy so it is easy to kill them with just about anything handy.

redhat6161 said:
They mentioned that the two guards weren't bit. I think the virus is going to mutate and go airborne at some point. It looked like that place was a refuge for survivors and they were holed up and locked within the facility. They let someone in or one of them got the virus and transmitted it to the others.
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I have a hunch that it may already be going airborne, or starting to, and some people may be immune a la The Stand.
 
not2sharp said:
I don't like the way the knives were being used tonight. Stabbing hard targets (like skulls) with folders is a recipe for disaster, and while I realize that this is what the show is about, it is not wise to encourage incorrect tool handling.

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Maybe the virus does something to the skull to make it weaker. I'm not an expert on this, but I don't think bones become that soft after a normal death. I'll also accept the "meh, Hollywood" explanation.

trevytrev said:
The whole transmission thing has been one of my big beefs with the show other than ammo conservation and supply. How is this illness transmitted because there is lots of blood splatter going around and Darryl has used the arrows for walkers and for food, not to mention impaling himself with an arrow that has been used on walkers. Just seems like if a scratch or bite would transmit the disease the blood splatter in the eye or mouth would as well. AS for my opinion on Shane, not only could they not have that tension go on for much longer and be realistic but I'm pretty sure the actor who plays him just signed onto another TV show, so that kind of gives a hint in its self. I could be wrong though, but I hope I'm not, he needs to go.
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The understanding of it in the comics is that everybody who dies turns into a zombie. Quite a few characters have died from nonzombie injuries in the comic, and, as long as their brains were intact, they turned into a zombie. The zombie bite doesn't turn you; it just kills you, and you turn after that. The bite also seems to have some pathogenic component to it because Dale (spoilers ahead) gets bit on the leg and managed to survive it after a quick amputation.
 
Did you guys see next weeks previews....? They show Daryl with the kid in the barn basically interrogating the kid and they show him slowly withdrawing his Busse Team Gemini from the sheath..........Nice view.........WOW.
 
Shane needs to go! He is turning into a freak! Plus he holds a gun like a idiot and the way he walks kills me... I would have left him in that bus if i was Rick and that kid would have been zombie food. Rick had a good point about conserving ammo and resorting to the blades more. Bring on the Busse's! Daryl better give the ole' Team Gemini a good oiling and put up the crossbow with one arrow in the quiver. I would have my Mathews Monster 7 out just smoking zombies from a 100 yards. But i would also recover my arrows unlike Daryl. Broad heads aren't cheap... and i would be using the crap out of my Thermacell Earth Scent Zombie repellant. That air gun, cow killer in "No Country for Old Men" would be perfect for killing zombies...as long as you didn't run out of air in the heat of the moment.
 
unwisefool said:
So you are implying that everyone who watches the TV show does not read? Why don't you grow up a little and try to be more civil?

Back on topic: I loved season one, and can't wait to watch season two once it is available on Netflix. Were there a lot of Busses in the first season?
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My apologies, no offense intended. I'm a hopeless sarcastic. I'd probably be watching if i hadn't sold my tv to buy knives.
 
He does get the arrows back when he can. He just made a bunch of wooden ones 2 episodes ago.
 
not2sharp said:
I don't like the way the knives were being used tonight. Stabbing hard targets (like skulls) with folders is a recipe for disaster, and while I realize that this is what the show is about, it is not wise to encourage incorrect tool handling.

n2s
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There aren't any other choices in those instances. Certainly they could fashion another tool or use a fixed blade, but there are working with what they got both in terms of tools as well as past experience. The cops are trained with guns, probably not extensively with knives, Let alone for dropping a person in a single shot. The skull is a 'hard target' in that it it is a reinforced shape of fresh bone, but it's harder to tell a person 'stab for the temple plate, middle cranial fossa, or the fissura orbitalis superior if your knife is long enough', let alone have someone in your group thinking like that. The core problem is that the brain is what allows the body and face to continue to function, so there are no other good one drop targets. If you sever the spine, in common zombie canon the face can continue to work and bit should you get near it, which is problematic in a horde situation.

Pick axes and other longer instruments would be nice, but they are difficult to carry with you at all times, and easy to drop if you need both hands.

Ideally they should all have more suppressors, katana's/heavy machete's with skill building training, khukuries and fairbairn sykes daggers.
 
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redhat6161 said:
I'd personally go for the temple. I feel like its pretty thin there. No idea if that's true or not. The other thing that concerns me is the zombie blood spraying all over the place. When Rick put that 357 through the brain bucket of the two zombies laying on top of him more than a couple of drops likely got in his mouth/eyes. Is it not transmitted in that fashion? No chance they kill off Shane. They might injure him but they won't kill him. He's a huge part of their story.
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Thats part of the deus ex machina of zombie canon, the variability of transmission. Very few zombie genre writers are willing to take the idea of it being a highly contagious virus to it's logical extreme because it makes for very difficult story telling. One of the few examples of it is in 28 days later when the dad turns because of a single drop of blood in his eye from a crow eating a body part on an electrical wire. But then, 28 days later is much more conflict heavy than this, things turn bad much faster, theres much less chance of survival and of long term story lines from groups of survivors. A story like this almost requires some give and take on contamination issues.
 
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I see a lot of Shane hate around here, I've been a Shane fan since day one. Shane is one of the only people on the show capable of making logical and sometimes cold decisions based on the situation. As Andrea told him in the last episode, all of his decisions have been sound, people just don't like his presentation. On the flip side everyone of Rick's and Lori's decisions have been horrible, yet people like Rick simply because he does them in the name of morality. Morality doesn't do you any good if you're dead.

Really Shane just needs to give up on trying to get with Lori, I really don't see how anyone could love her. She's a total manipulative #$%^& and from how Rick was talking in the first season and the flashbacks it seems this isn't a new trait that's developed because of recent events. She really just needs to be killed off, but she causes too much drama within the group for the writers to kill her off yet.

On a different point, I'm also a huge Daryl fan. He just needs to quit pushing Carol away and tell her how he really feels, since it's pretty obvious.
 
Last Visible Canary said:
Thats part of the deus ex machina of zombie canon, the variability of transmission. Very few zombie genre writers are willing to take the idea of it being a highly contagious virus to it's logical extreme because it makes for very difficult story telling. One of the few examples of it is in 28 days later when the dad turns because of a single drop of blood in his eye from a crow eating a body part on an electrical wire. But then, 28 days later is much more conflict heavy than this, things turn bad much faster, theres much less chance of survival and of long term story lines from groups of survivors. A story like this almost requires some give and take on contamination issues.
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Also, purists will say 28 So-and-sos Later isn't technically zombies :rolleyes:
 
I think the NM FSH would be an excellent edition for the 2012 Walking dead... But in reality.. They got to bring out the AK one episode and have one of the character just clean a street up with it.. Kinda Bruce Lee fashion... taking out about 50 in two minutes.. would be awesome :)
 
Ocelot85 said:
I see a lot of Shane hate around here, I've been a Shane fan since day one. Shane is one of the only people on the show capable of making logical and sometimes cold decisions based on the situation. As Andrea told him in the last episode, all of his decisions have been sound, people just don't like his presentation. On the flip side everyone of Rick's and Lori's decisions have been horrible, yet people like Rick simply because he does them in the name of morality. Morality doesn't do you any good if you're dead.

Really Shane just needs to give up on trying to get with Lori, I really don't see how anyone could love her. She's a total manipulative #$%^& and from how Rick was talking in the first season and the flashbacks it seems this isn't a new trait that's developed because of recent events. She really just needs to be killed off, but she causes too much drama within the group for the writers to kill her off yet.

On a different point, I'm also a huge Daryl fan. He just needs to quit pushing Carol away and tell her how he really feels, since it's pretty obvious.
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I like Shane, too. I think it's mostly Lori getting to him. He and rick were really good friends before the zombacolypse.

I think that's the point, though. The zombacolypse changes people.
 
Ocelot85 said:
I see a lot of Shane hate around here, I've been a Shane fan since day one. Shane is one of the only people on the show capable of making logical and sometimes cold decisions based on the situation. As Andrea told him in the last episode, all of his decisions have been sound, people just don't like his presentation. On the flip side everyone of Rick's and Lori's decisions have been horrible, yet people like Rick simply because he does them in the name of morality. Morality doesn't do you any good if you're dead.

Really Shane just needs to give up on trying to get with Lori, I really don't see how anyone could love her. She's a total manipulative #$%^& and from how Rick was talking in the first season and the flashbacks it seems this isn't a new trait that's developed because of recent events. She really just needs to be killed off, but she causes too much drama within the group for the writers to kill her off yet.

On a different point, I'm also a huge Daryl fan. He just needs to quit pushing Carol away and tell her how he really feels, since it's pretty obvious.
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Rick and Lori's decisions were based on morality and have either gotten people killed or put them in the line of danger. Shanes decisions were based on 'cold reality' and got people killed or put them in the line of danger. Both result in similar trends, but one has an element of internal stability, i.e. I want to kill you but I'm going to think about the group first, as apposed to "bang".

If you don't know why anyone could love Lori than I suggest researching the psychology of love, it's a pretty easy thing to conceive.


uyotg said:
Also, purists will say 28 So-and-sos Later isn't technically zombies :rolleyes:
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Yet it has influenced the genre into 'runners' where they weren't present before. Even outside the purity standards the film stands as a turning point in the zombie genre.
 
Last Visible Canary said:
Yet it has influenced the genre into 'runners' where they weren't present before. Even outside the purity standards the film stands as a turning point in the zombie genre.
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I know this is most likely grossly inaccurate, but it seems like every zombie or violence/cannibalism-inducing plague movie from Europe uses running infected. Asian zombies seem to be slow for the most part (and usually comedic or absurd), except for in this one short from Thailand I saw.
 
I don't watch zombie stuff, but I do know if you pee in one's left eye it will turn to dust. Yes, I've done it before, and it worked.
 
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