Non-receipt claim filed with Paypal 1hr after payment was sent...

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And this is the only reason I made this thread. Otherwise I would have just been annoyed and moved on. Now there is documented history on my Paypal of someone disputing a purchase under the guise of not receiving what they paid for.

There is a good reason why Paypal doesnt have any other way to request a refund; they aren't in the business of granted refunds based on purchasers changing their minds. They expect us to communicate and handle it ourselves, which I would have if given the opportunity.

Or as in this case strange undisclosed policies concerning hurt feelings of the buyer. It really does suck for you to have to take a hit for this.

I would contact Paypal and provide a link to this thread so they do not put a strike against you, as it would not be fair to have for them to add this transaction to your profile.

I know that Paypal used to put a hold on your funds until the buyer received the item. Not sure if this is something that may happen due to this transaction, but I would find out. I'mnot sure if that was just an Ebay thing or not.

Or, better yet, perhaps hhmoore could stand up and contact paypal to let them know he was in the wrong and the seller did nothing wrong.
 
25 minutes from the time hhmoore asked for his name to be removed from the sales thread to the time the OP received the notification from Paypal????!!!! Are you kidding me?

It is a disgrace that the OP's reputation should be tarnished because hhmoore could not wait a reasonable time (like an hour!) for his name to be removed from the sales thread.

hhmoore.......you should apologise to the forum as a whole. Here we run on trust, manners and little thing called common sense.
While your behaviour is not larcenous you have demonstrated poor judgement and slight regard for a fellow forumite who is a member in good standing. In so doing you have tarnished that members reputation with Paypal for no reason other than the fact that you have no patience.

You should rethink your comments and apologise unreservedly
 
This situation and that Karambit thread are 2 of the more ridiculous things I've seen on this site.
 
25 minutes from the time hhmoore asked for his name to be removed from the sales thread to the time the OP received the notification from Paypal????!!!! Are you kidding me?

It is a disgrace that the OP's reputation should be tarnished because hhmoore could not wait a reasonable time (like an hour!) for his name to be removed from the sales thread.

hhmoore.......you should apologise to the forum as a whole. Here we run on trust, manners and little thing called common sense.
While your behaviour is not larcenous you have demonstrated poor judgement and slight regard for a fellow forumite who is a member in good standing. In so doing you have tarnished that members reputation with Paypal for no reason other than the fact that you have no patience.

You should rethink your comments and apologise unreservedly

I've been thinking this over trying to figure out how I feel about it. This sums it up.

Nothing happened that was fraudulent, and I completely understand wanting your name to not be out there. I do the same on local boards where people know me in person. But the lack of patience on HH part is uncalled for. Many people don't live on this board. It's completely understandable that the OP may not have even checked back on the board (hence no get a PM) for days after his sale thread was done. And just because he may have been viewing the thread doesn't mean he even saw the PM requesting the name be removed. It's.good that nothing criminal happened and obvious that HH didn't intend for any slight, but the judgement was definitely poor.
 
25 minutes from the time hhmoore asked for his name to be removed from the sales thread to the time the OP received the notification from Paypal????!!!! Are you kidding me?...

hhmoore that is pretty grimey that you filed a false claim with paypal because you are too impatient and FAILED to stipulate your weird rules before the transaction. Perhaps an EMAIL explaining your asinine request to have your name kept out of the thread and taking the item. You posted in the thread yourself, got impatient, then lied to paypal.

hhmoore I don't think you will be able to remove your name from this thread though. hhmoore - new ignore list entry.
 
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very crappy sir, very crappy to file a fraudulent PP claim and have no patience what so ever.
 
hhmoore needs a timeout from the exchange forum, so that he can rethink his business strategy.
 
I have been up for nearly 30 hrs at this point, so I am not going to take the time to read this entire thread. Doing so would not significantly change what I am going to say; but it would delay my response (and likely reduce my ability to make it without rambling). My plan is simply to make my statement - I have no expectation of my response satisfying the masses. In all likelihood, I will (after sleeping) read through the entire thread…I may, or may not, respond further after doing so.

Let me start by saying, yes, I chose to retract my purchase due to the seller posting/leaving my name in the sale thread. However, I did send him a message first, requesting that he remove it. I realize that most of you will not understand that, because posting “I’ll take it” to claim an item is common practice on this site. I’m not going to waste words trying to explain my rationale – let it suffice to say that I do not purchase items here by claiming them publicly; and, accordingly, I do not want my name posted as the purchaser. I have, occasionally, been refused an item because I was unwilling to make an I’ll take it post to “document” the purchase.

Back to issue: Upon seeing that the seller posted my name in the ad, I immediately sent him a message asking that he remove it. I went back to the ad, and noted that there were 4 members viewing it – the seller was not one of them. (That fact has bearing.) I was away from the computer for approximately 10 minutes…when I returned, I checked first for a response to my message, then went back to the ad. The seller was now listed as viewing the ad – my thought at that moment was that he was going to remove my username. After refreshing the page a few times to check, I continued getting ready to leave. When I checked back, the seller was no longer viewing the thread – I don’t recall if he was shown as online. I sent him another PM stating that I didn’t know why he chose not to remove my name, but that it was a deal breaker for me. At that time, I asked for a refund. Under more ideal circumstances, we would have exchanged PMs on the matter, and things would have ended there. Unfortunately, time was not on our side – I was going to be away from home for 14 hrs (possibly more), I couldn’t count on having an opportunity to even come online in that time, and I wanted to make sure there was no doubt about the transaction being cancelled. With those things in mind, I went to PayPal.

I was reasonably certain that there was no Cancel Purchase button; but I wanted to see if there was an acceptable option for notifying the seller. There was not. That’s right – I recognize that filing a claim was a poor option; but it was really the only “official” option available, so I used it. The message I sent with the claim suggested no wrongdoing on the part of the seller – it was “As per my message on BF, I am cancelling the purchase. Do not ship the item. Please refund my payment.” I fully expected hard feelings from the seller on the matter because I took that step…it was unfortunate; but I was willing to accept them.
Seeing the number of posts that have already been made, and having viewed enough of these threads, I’m sure that many have already made negative comments about me. Along with that likely comes the vows to put me on ignore or not deal with me. I won’t say that I don’t care about such things; but, we all make our decisions on who to deal with based on whatever information we have, and the real world impact is rather small. I’m thick skinned enough not to suffer much distress over the sting of such comments. There are more things I’m inclined to say; but I don’t know that there is much reason to continue. I’m tired, and I have already gone on (and deleted) a few tangents. I realize that this post won't make cancelling in that manner "right" in anybody's eyes; but, again, I'm not trying to justify it.

In case anybody suggests (or has suggested) that it was a matter of buyer remorse - that is not the case. I had already paid for the knife, and I didn't change my mind about wanting it. I fully admit that I did not wait an "acceptable" amount of time to assess the seller's response. In fact, if I was reading this situation, I would be critical of the timeline.

To the people that contacted me to make me aware of this thread – thank you - I wish I could have responded earlier.

After all that, not one word of apology to Skrapmetal for imposing your requirements on HIS sales thread, and then creating a problem with paypal for him.

Stop the world, hhmoore want to get off !
 
Isn't the point of creating a username just for the fact that you can remain somewhat anonymous?? HHmoore makes it seem like we all know his full name, address, SSN, etc, by having his username in a thread. Get a grip. You replied in the thread yourself. What's so secretive about all this that you're so paranoid about??

(Hypothetically) HHmoore bought a knife and he sold a knife once. Great! What's the big deal in people seeing this???
 
Skrapmetal, have you contacted PayPal about this?

With the payment and claim of non-receipt filed within the same hour, you can't possibly be expected to ship an item to the buyer, presumably to another state, within that time frame. Hopefully PayPal will understand that and does right by taking this off your record.
 
25 minutes from the time hhmoore asked for his name to be removed from the sales thread to the time the OP received the notification from Paypal????!!!! Are you kidding me?

It is a disgrace that the OP's reputation should be tarnished because hhmoore could not wait a reasonable time (like an hour!) for his name to be removed from the sales thread.

hhmoore.......you should apologise to the forum as a whole. Here we run on trust, manners and little thing called common sense.
While your behaviour is not larcenous you have demonstrated poor judgement and slight regard for a fellow forumite who is a member in good standing. In so doing you have tarnished that members reputation with Paypal for no reason other than the fact that you have no patience.

You should rethink your comments and apologise unreservedly

hhmoore that is pretty grimey that you filed a false claim with paypal because you are too impatient and FAILED to stipulate your weird rules before the transaction. Perhaps an EMAIL explaining your asinine request to have your name kept out of the thread and taking the item. You posted in the thread yourself, got impatient, then lied to paypal.

hhmoore I don't think you will be able to remove your name from this thread though. hhmoore - new ignore list entry.

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very crappy sir, very crappy to file a fraudulent PP claim and have no patience what so ever.

After all that, not one word of apology to Skrapmetal for imposing your requirements on HIS sales thread, and then creating a problem with paypal for him.

Stop the world, hhmoore want to get off !

Isn't the point of creating a username just for the fact that you can remain somewhat anonymous?? HHmoore makes it seem like we all know his full name, address, SSN, etc, by having his username in a thread. Get a grip. You replied in the thread yourself. What's so secretive about all this that you're so paranoid about??

(Hypothetically) HHmoore bought a knife and he sold a knife once. Great! What's the big deal in people seeing this???

Skrapmetal, have you contacted PayPal about this?

With the payment and claim of non-receipt filed within the same hour, you can't possibly be expected to ship an item to the buyer, presumably to another state, within that time frame. Hopefully PayPal will understand that and does right by taking this off your record.

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These...& a few of the others, all excellent takes on this situation.

Benchwarmer380: Once again, I really do appreciate the way that you analyze a situation, & then as usual, succinctly come back with one of the more important/intelligent takes on a given situation.

IMO- I have no doubt, that PayPal will rectify this injustice.
 
So basically hhmoore, who doesn't want to draw attention to his dealings on the exchange, takes extreme and arguably fraudulent action to remove his user name from an exchange thread which in turn attracts a great deal of attention to his dealings on the exchange.
 
So basically hhmoore, who doesn't want to draw attention to his dealings on the exchange, takes extreme and arguably fraudulent action to remove his user name from an exchange thread which in turn attracts a great deal of attention to his dealings on the exchange.

Irony for the win.
 
atleast the guy manned up and admitted his fault, without apology. he should also graciously accept negative feedback imo.
 
1. guy is probably hiding property from an ex spouse
2. I'm going to post in every one of his threads now! :D
 
At the risk of duplicate posting, rule # 7 about buyer/buying:
If you must back out of a deal, it is YOUR responsibility to communicate with the other person WHY you are unable to complete the transaction. Make sure this happens BEFORE any money or items have been exchanged. Problems should be attempted to be resolved between the persons involved, before Feedback threads are started.

And then the OP has to take a hit with PayPal (25 minutes? Since when do they ever move that fast about ANYTHING?) just because someone else can't follow the rules.
Balls.
 
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