Nutnfancy is Talking to Us.

lol.

Hey, Mike in a survival situation could I use my ESEE to trim loose threads off my clothes?
 
I fell asleep before it hit the 3 minute mark.

Fallkniven is made in Japan. I'll never carry a blade made by someone other than an American.
 
MikePerrin said:
I have to tell you a funny. This weekend Jeff and I worked the Smokey Mountain Knife Rep Weekend Show in Pidgeon Forge, TN. A guy asks me at the counter if in a survival situation would our knives work to filet a fish. I said if in a survival situation a knife has nothing to do with the fish. I would poke a stick up his mouth and roast him whole over a fire if I had the luxury of a fire or simply eat him raw..:)
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Now that is funny!!! hahahah. So did he have a reply?lol:thumbup::D
 
Magus said:
Here's my take on Nutnfancy.

On one hand I truly do appreciate that there is someone like Nutnfancy out there who reviews a lot of knives, guns and gear. Another opinion to wrap your head around I guess. I'll give him that much.

On the the other hand though, I don't care for the way Nutnfancy presents himself and the way he does reviews. It takes him 30 plus minutes to say what most us could in 5 minutes. He is long winded, even by his own admission. It annoys me personally, but I won't fault someone for being thorough.

His background has always has been in question. Some say he's Airforce, some say he's a mall ninja....honestly...I don't know either way, don't know that I care either way. Like anyone else with a Youtube account or an opinion on the internet, I take their views with a grain of salt and make up my own mind in the end. I don't regard him as an expert, nor do I disregard him as a noob. I watch some of his vids and agree with what he has to say sometimes and other times I'm in drastic opposition.

I guess in the end though Nutnfancy doesn't really bug me that much personally. What bugs me though is the cult that surrounds him. That's not his fault. Those who follow him blindly are truly the mall ninja, fanboy, tacticool crowd....he seems to draw them. Again, that's not his fault. Someone who can go on Youtube and state their opinion with confidence is regarded as an "expert" by that crowd and they'll follow him like sheep.

Honestly, the more I think about it, it's not that Nutnfancy is bad at all, it's his followers ultimately that give him the bad rep he doesn't deserve.
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Who came up with the Air Force background? Does this make his information more/less relevant? Just curious, does Air Force = Mall Ninja?

Ive personally watched 3-4 of his videos when I was looking for a review or two on particular knife. He does seem to enjoy the sound of his own voice, but other than that Ive never given the guy alot of thought. I also dont understand his "cult" status. Though, I guess I could say that about several internet personalities on YouTube/Blogs.

/shrug

To each their own...

'Fuzz
 
berandom said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWR_u7fHhD8&playnext_from=TL&videos=oX_PBuk7L2U&feature=sub

Here he goes again, this time more indirectly calling us out(i.e. survival circles/groups referring to forums). Well he doesn't like short blades, maybe he should try the Junglas. Also I don't know why he likes a stainless steel survival knife so much. Well, does anyone else disagree?

This starts at 3:00.
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I honestly did not get that at all from this video. I appreciate what NutnFancy contributes to the knife community, especially since his reviews are pretty unbiased.
 
Superfuzz said:
Who came up with the Air Force background?
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Don't know (don't care, either.)

Does this make his information more/less relevant?
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To some it could make it more relevant, to some less.

Just curious, does Air Force = Mall Ninja?
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Of course not.

"Mall Ninja" is just a term that became popular, on the internet, to slap people with for various reasons. Like most titles on this medium, it's just an insult. In some circles, anyone that talks about using a knife as an edged weapon is a "Mall Ninja." That's stupid, too. Probably anyone interested in survivalism would be a "Mall Ninja" as well...to some people.

The military angle is an interesting one when it comes to survivalism, shooting, knowledge of knives and everything else associated with this stuff. The vast majority of people who serve in the military do their jobs, whatever they are, and they are not really touched by any of this because their job is to support those who do shoot, etc.

There are a few guys in this forum that have been to Iraq, a hostile environment if there ever was one, you see them in here learning from other people and exchanging information but they're not being an attention whore and claiming to know everything there is to know and pontificating about it. They just served and know what they know and it's who they are. They're not trying to get any additional mileage out of it to be an expert in anything.

Which means they probably know more than they talk about because they're good people.
 
Don Rearic said:
Don't know (don't care, either.)



To some it could make it more relevant, to some less.



Of course not.

"Mall Ninja" is just a term that became popular, on the internet, to slap people with for various reasons. Like most titles on this medium, it's just an insult. In some circles, anyone that talks about using a knife as an edged weapon is a "Mall Ninja." That's stupid, too. Probably anyone interested in survivalism would be a "Mall Ninja" as well...to some people.

The military angle is an interesting one when it comes to survivalism, shooting, knowledge of knives and everything else associated with this stuff. The vast majority of people who serve in the military do their jobs, whatever they are, and they are not really touched by any of this because their job is to support those who do shoot, etc.

There are a few guys in this forum that have been to Iraq, a hostile environment if there ever was one, you see them in here learning from other people and exchanging information but they're not being an attention whore and claiming to know everything there is to know and pontificating about it. They just served and know what they know and it's who they are. They're not trying to get any additional mileage out of it to be an expert in anything.

Which means they probably know more than they talk about because they're good people.
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Man, ain't that the truth. Good post, Don, as usual. Moose.
 
Don Rearic said:
Don't know (don't care, either.)



To some it could make it more relevant, to some less.



Of course not.

"Mall Ninja" is just a term that became popular, on the internet, to slap people with for various reasons. Like most titles on this medium, it's just an insult. In some circles, anyone that talks about using a knife as an edged weapon is a "Mall Ninja." That's stupid, too. Probably anyone interested in survivalism would be a "Mall Ninja" as well...to some people.

The military angle is an interesting one when it comes to survivalism, shooting, knowledge of knives and everything else associated with this stuff. The vast majority of people who serve in the military do their jobs, whatever they are, and they are not really touched by any of this because their job is to support those who do shoot, etc.

There are a few guys in this forum that have been to Iraq, a hostile environment if there ever was one, you see them in here learning from other people and exchanging information but they're not being an attention whore and claiming to know everything there is to know and pontificating about it. They just served and know what they know and it's who they are. They're not trying to get any additional mileage out of it to be an expert in anything.

Which means they probably know more than they talk about because they're good people.
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Very well said. I wonder if the guy who posted the initial commentary would/could have been as succint and thoughtful. As one of those "few guys" with a couple tours in Iraq/AStan, I appreciate your candor and insight. Thank you.
 
Superfuzz said:
Who came up with the Air Force background? Does this make his information more/less relevant? Just curious, does Air Force = Mall Ninja?

Ive personally watched 3-4 of his videos when I was looking for a review or two on particular knife. He does seem to enjoy the sound of his own voice, but other than that Ive never given the guy alot of thought. I also dont understand his "cult" status. Though, I guess I could say that about several internet personalities on YouTube/Blogs.

/shrug

To each their own...

'Fuzz
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Airforce does not equal mall ninja at all. Mall Ninja is something entirely different. I think what a lot of folks want to know is what his credentials truly are, that's all.

Other forums I've read says he is or was in the Airforce. Exactly what he did in the Airforce, I have no clue. Can't say it makes a difference to me personally, but to others it will. There seems to be some fog surrounding what he actually does or did.

If his background was 100% verified would that make his reviews more credible? Again maybe to some. Depends upon what his role was in the military I would assume.

I don't have any real gripe with the guy, his is just another opinion to consider the way I see it.

If he's just a guy who's enthusiastic about knives, guns and the outdoors, that's great too, nothing wrong with that. But more often than not the label "expert" gets tagged on him and I don't exactly see him dodging that title either, so again, I have to kinda wonder what is his background exactly?

For what it's worth, this is the only vid I know of where he sort of addresses his background. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laD4vtEbFao
 
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I think he should hire a bikini model to put in the videos.
Then he can do the voice overs like his regular ones,
But at least I'd make it thru. :)
 
Magus said:
Airforce does not equal mall ninja at all.
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Well, of course not! "Mall Ninjas" don't exist, it's an insult. While there might be some rivalry between the branches of service, the Air Force does its job and does it well! USAF Combat Controllers and PJs and those that teach them their special skills are every bit the Special Operations Personnel that SEALs and Green Berets are, etc.

Mall Ninja is something entirely different.
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It's something entirely different because it's nothing at all! It's just a smartassed comment made by naysayers and shit-disturbers on the internet. While there really are some bloodthirsty kooks online when it comes to edged weapon self-defense and firearms, basically "Mall Ninja" is the hallmark of someone that doesn't have anything to say about something someone else is doing.

I think what a lot of folks want to know is what his credentials truly are, that's all.
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You know what? Unless the guy hands you a DD214 and you can actually verify it because those have been falsified in the past, what difference does it make? Even if the guy says one thing he could have been doing another thing in the service.

You know how you can tell what his creds are? What is he posting? What is he doing?

I don't care if he mopped halls in the USAF cafeteria! He might care and people who blindly eat what military guys have to say might care.

If the guy does a BoobTube video on how to make a squirrel pole and he does and it works, that's his credibility. I don't care if he is a clerk typist or whatever passes for one nowadays, if he can do what he is talking about, that's a good thing.

People get hung up on the military angle of this stuff. I mean, take a guy from Montana who was a Boy Scout and he hunted deer and small game growing up but he goes to Afghanistan and makes coffee in an office, does the fact that he was not SpecOps negate what he might have to say about living off the land or survival? Absolutely not!

I think a lot of people perceive that what they have to say won't be received or well-received if they don't make up or hint to the Special Forces angle. Not that this guy is doing that but some have.

The fact is, a lot of Special Forces guys just know what they were taught and didn't really pursue this stuff any further. Same with using a knife on someone. I'm sure they shoot a lot because that's what they are going to really have to rely on in the field. I hope you know what I am saying. Other guys get the bug for survivalism or knives or martial arts or whatever and they go after that with gusto...

But the fact that someone was in X-service or whatever doesn't really give them Carte Blanche to credibility. If the guy says or writes something and it works for you, that should be all of the credibility that you require unless you simply want to be a cheerleader for someone. (Not meaning you specifically, just in general.)
 
He's a pilot in the AF and is currently active and has been for the last 17yrs..

His knowledge of 'things' are through trial and error like most of us... hes sharing his opinion on gear that's it, really simple..

I think a lot of people are just jealous of his following on youtube, yippie!!!

Its funny because I never could stand the sound of him and wouldn't watch a video in its entirety, but then he grew on me, and to be perfectly honest I use to and sometimes still do talk very similar to that, maybe its a generational/culture thing..

regardless the dude's for real, he isn't an extremist and doesn't claim to be, hes just very found of the outdoors and things that are dangerous and started doing gear reviews on some of the stuff he used, and well now everyone bashes him on forums, but its amazing to see hes the MOST watched but yet you can never find anyone who likes him, or perhaps people simply lie to follow the mass consensus:cool:..
 
Don Rearic said:
Well, of course not! "Mall Ninjas" don't exist, it's an insult. While there might be some rivalry between the branches of service, the Air Force does its job and does it well! USAF Combat Controllers and PJs and those that teach them their special skills are every bit the Special Operations Personnel that SEALs and Green Berets are, etc.



It's something entirely different because it's nothing at all! It's just a smartassed comment made by naysayers and shit-disturbers on the internet. While there really are some bloodthirsty kooks online when it comes to edged weapon self-defense and firearms, basically "Mall Ninja" is the hallmark of someone that doesn't have anything to say about something someone else is doing.



You know what? Unless the guy hands you a DD214 and you can actually verify it because those have been falsified in the past, what difference does it make? Even if the guy says one thing he could have been doing another thing in the service.

You know how you can tell what his creds are? What is he posting? What is he doing?

I don't care if he mopped halls in the USAF cafeteria! He might care and people who blindly eat what military guys have to say might care.

If the guy does a BoobTube video on how to make a squirrel pole and he does and it works, that's his credibility. I don't care if he is a clerk typist or whatever passes for one nowadays, if he can do what he is talking about, that's a good thing.

People get hung up on the military angle of this stuff. I mean, take a guy from Montana who was a Boy Scout and he hunted deer and small game growing up but he goes to Afghanistan and makes coffee in an office, does the fact that he was not SpecOps negate what he might have to say about living off the land or survival? Absolutely not!

I think a lot of people perceive that what they have to say won't be received or well-received if they don't make up or hint to the Special Forces angle. Not that this guy is doing that but some have.

The fact is, a lot of Special Forces guys just know what they were taught and didn't really pursue this stuff any further. Same with using a knife on someone. I'm sure they shoot a lot because that's what they are going to really have to rely on in the field. I hope you know what I am saying. Other guys get the bug for survivalism or knives or martial arts or whatever and they go after that with gusto...

But the fact that someone was in X-service or whatever doesn't really give them Carte Blanche to credibility. If the guy says or writes something and it works for you, that should be all of the credibility that you require unless you simply want to be a cheerleader for someone. (Not meaning you specifically, just in general.)
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Well stated. :thumbup:
 
Magus said:
Other forums I've read says he is or was in the Airforce. Exactly what he did in the Airforce, I have no clue.
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Just being in the Air Force is really no guarantee either way that someone knows what they are talking about. I have a friend that between active duty and reserves has been in the AF for 15+ years, including at least three deployments overseas. He knows loads more about a lot of things to do with his job than I do, but he doesn't know squat about survival, bushcraft, or camping beyond what he might remember from basic training. I'm sure there are plenty of guys in the AF who's are real experts in those things, but its not universal, or even I think the norm.

Like Don says, look at what he presents in his videos and evaluate how much of an expert he is based on his actual knowledge, not his supposed background.
 
mdauben said:
Just being in the Air Force is really no guarantee either way that someone knows what they are talking about. I have a friend that between active duty and reserves has been in the AF for 15+ years, including at least three deployments overseas. He knows loads more about a lot of things to do with his job than I do, but he doesn't know squat about survival, bushcraft, or camping beyond what he might remember from basic training. I'm sure there are plenty of guys in the AF who's are real experts in those things, but its not universal, or even I think the norm.

Like Don says, look at what he presents in his videos and evaluate how much of an expert he is based on his actual knowledge, not his supposed background.
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Agree 100%. That's really the point I've been trying to make and maybe I've not been doing a good job of it.

In other forums I've been to, the question of his background keeps coming up. I really don't care in the end. While I'll always respect the hell out of those who have served in the armed forces, it doesn't always give you a free pass as an "expert" in terms of things like firearms, knives, bushcraft, etc.

As I've said several times, his vids are just another opinion to consider.
 
mdauben said:
Like Don says, look at what he presents in his videos and evaluate how much of an expert he is based on his actual knowledge, not his supposed background.
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It's just common sense, if it works, it works. I don't have cable internet so I don't watch his videos on YT. If I am going to let some YTV load, it's going to be something rare from Black Sabbath or Jack Rebney or something. :D

Mike, your avatar, did you ever see "Sublime?" :D
 
Magus said:
In other forums I've been to, the question of his background keeps coming up. I really don't care in the end. While I'll always respect the hell out of those who have served in the armed forces, it doesn't always give you a free pass as an "expert" in terms of things like firearms, knives, bushcraft, etc.
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All that matters is...does it work? Now, if the guy says he was some high-speed, low-drag SF guy and he isn't, that's problematic. But all of that stuff matters more to people who believe you have to be that type of person in order to know what you are talking about when it comes to survival. Those types of people will listen to an idiot because he was SF or something over someone who was never in the military but really knows their stuff anyway.

The only absolutely "uniform" trait, pardon the pun, that I have observed from former military personnel is when you shoot with someone that said they were a Marine, you can really tell immediately if they are BSing. :)
 
One very important thing to consider is that the Special Operations community gets most of their more esoteric skills from civilians. The military is too busy being a military to give single-minded focus to a given subject for true mastery in most fields. All of that high-speed/low-drag shooting? Civilians. Extreme survival? Civilians. Defensive/Offensive driving? Civilians. Unarmed combat? Civilians. Mountaineering? Civilians.

The list goes on and on...

All of the training set up you see today in the high-speed/low-drag stuff started off as a civilian expert being surrounded by a bunch of soldiers/LEOs and that process continues today. Some are former servicemen, but many are not.
 
That's not entirely true. The military may utilize civilian experts for new techniques or crafts, but they typically have their own schools for teaching things like mountaineering or advanced shooting, survival, etc... things that have been developed and well used buy the military. They may have "civilians" teaching or helping teach, but they're usually government employees who are retired from the military themselves. Not enlisted/commissioned, but not exactly civilians either. A lot of the other stuff is taught from government agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA, etc.) or learned from other branches who might have more experience in certain areas.

I'm not saying you're completely wrong there, but a lot of the schools or courses are military or government taught.
 
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