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Nutnfancy is Talking to Us.
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Kripes, as far as I can tell Jeff Randall has no head about him on a survival knife. Everytime he posts about what he's taking along on his trips its something different
Focusing on the tool is fruitless. The tool won't save you, just your head and ability to act. We too often confuse our aesthetic sense, ergo preferences and slight performance enhancement attributes for specific tasks as somehow being meaningful to survival. Use what works best for you, choose your tools to suit your needs, otherwise improvise when you are left wanting. That's the game.
Nobody here probably needs to buy another knife to be any more prepared than they already are. However, I won't dispute that it is always fun buy more survival stuff.
I do get tired of Nunt'n'fancy always whining about the amount of work something is, often using poor technique in the things he whines about. I think the guy needs a little bit of self esteem and a little less cockyness.
i second and third this
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Wow, people sure get so defensive when someone has a different opinion than them. It's just a guy's opinion about the size of knife he prefers to take into the woods. Chill out, peoples.
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His first videos were much more on topic, to the point, and informative. Now, his videos sound just like him beating his chest. He has some good input, but you have to watch a 20 min video to get 30 seconds of good, on topic info! His ego is just too ginormous for me.
Yeah, and I tire of all the "dudes" he uses. He kinda sounds like a child sometimes, constantly using the phrase "guess what"
Yeah, and I tire of all the "dudes" he uses. He kinda sounds like a child sometimes, constantly using the phrase "guess what"
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Even still, assuming I agree with your observation about his mantra, his purported "mantra" is really just his opinion (yet again). Solution: Don't watch his videos. That simple. I don't watch many programs I consider to be shit. I also don't waste my time badmouthing them. They just aren't worth the time. That simple.
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The problem is that logic is circular. If you don't like us badmouthing his videos, don't reply to us.
As much as he's entitled to his opinion, were entitled to comment and share our opinion that he's wrong. I'm not saying he has no right makng videos or sharing his opinions. I'm just saying I disagree with him.
As much as he's entitled to his opinion, were entitled to comment and share our opinion that he's wrong. I'm not saying he has no right makng videos or sharing his opinions. I'm just saying I disagree with him.
Well, just because we don't agree with 100% of something someone says doesn't mean they don't have great points or valuable info. I don't really watch any of Nutnfancy's videos anymore since he's gotten so LONG winded but he generally makes some good points. Sometimes he's off base though, as are we all. My Mother, best friend, and even my wife to be, are wrong sometimes, but I trust them all implicitly. I think it's a very good thing to think for ourselves but we can also look to others for valuable info even if they're wrong sometimes
Tasty. :thumbup:
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I seriously don't see where lots of you are coming from...Nutnfancy is constantly just saying things like "It's just my opinion", or "im my experience". Which is exactly what his videos are.
I coulden't stand a conversation with the guy in real life probably since he's constantly talking (and I assume he constantly talks even when he's not in front of the camera), but I've got no beef with the guy or his vids.
I coulden't stand a conversation with the guy in real life probably since he's constantly talking (and I assume he constantly talks even when he's not in front of the camera), but I've got no beef with the guy or his vids.
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This past week during our survival course students were using everything from small SAKs to 18" machetes. Knife size has NOTHING to do with survival. Period. It's all about technique and experience using the tool. Personally, I like a machete for wilderness work - I can do everything needed with this one tool. One of our co-instructors uses a 4" fixed balde, another uses a SAK. We all get the task done. Videos mean nothing to me but I don't bash someone for making a video about what they personally like. However, where the rubber meets the road is when you put a guy in the bush, stress them with tasks and limited tools, and force them to use their knife. Only then do they learn what works best for them. Backyard chopping and wood splitting really doesn't mean anything since it's such a controlled environment. You need to be dead tired, stressed from the elements, hungry, cold, sweating, etc. to really understand what works best for you as a "survival" tool.
yup, he does constantly say those phrases, along with your milage may vary. He always points out that this is how HIS system works and if you have another way of getting it done that works for you, go for it. I've heard him get that point across in almost every vid I've seen him make. He's always talking about weight VS capabilities, what he prefers, and if someone else doesnt mind more weight than good for them.
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I think you missed his point, which I interpret to be that badmouthing, as opposed to respectfully disagreeing with someone, serves no benefit whatsoever. It just spreads negativity and discontent, whether you're doing the badmouthing or receiving it.
EDIT: After thinking on this further, I feel that the key distinction here is "badmouthing" versus "disagreeing." The former is disrespectful, the latter isn't necessarily. But then, this is all just semantics.
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Badmouthing may be a poor word choice. Many Posts may have been pointed. However, In my case at least, it's me simply disagreeing with him, and pointing out my feelings. Yes, a few places I call into question his knowledge and experience. I do this not to make him look bad, but to point out that his opinion on things like axes, isn't qualified, and people in any discussion about him should know that.
He posts his videos in an open, public place. That opens you to public critique. Disagreeing with him doesn't make me a troll. And pointing out he has no idea how to use an axe, isn't badmouthing....it's simple truth. This has gone WAAAAY off OP, but for someone as prolific as Nutn', I think it's a fair evaluation. If he's reading this, what he should take from it is this:
-Make 'em shorter, Dude.
-lots of dudes are watching your video's
-If you're going to include something in one of your videos that you don't have knowledge/experience in, either train with someone who does, or come to some place on the interwebs where you could learn about it. Possibly some forums.
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Well said.
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This was epically good. And somehow that's what everyone is saying, sometimes it's just lack of experience or something like that. None of us has to agree with him, but at times maybe we do.
Now I've babbled long enough since it's a survival knife topic. If it gets to multitools, a topic I know and have experience in, then someone give me a call.
Now if it comes to a survival situation, like it was said, it's always what you would choose, but what you have. If we'd get to chose our tool then a miraculous way out would be probably what most ppl would take over any survival knife, tool, or anything else.
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However, you do seem to spend a lot of time defending this guy and I can't quite figure out why.
My opinion is that if somebody willingly makes themselves a youtube channel and prolifically post videos in such a public format then then their opinion is rightly subject to criticism. If people want to call him a jerk and goof because he posts his opinion, what of it? Nutnfancy likes the attention...I'm sure he likes accolades better than criticisms. However, I think his head is up his butt because he's gone off thinking he has more knowledge than he does.
I wouldn't watch his videos if his flunky fanboys would just stop posting links in my favorite places. When they do that, then I feel free to voice my opinion that he's really a gear head and not very credible at what he says.
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I think you build an affinity with tools over a certain period of time. I still have my SERE school knife, a 1982 Camillus. It's older than I am. I am very proficient at coaxing a shaving edge out of it with no more than an 800 grit arkansas stone, because I know the grind angle, steel hardness and abrasiveness of the stone via muscle memory. The leather washers have conformed to fit my grip over years of use. I think if you stick to one single tool for a majority of your cuting needs, you will "learn it"-the grind, the blade shape, the maintenance, and usage techniques. It's like picking up a glock after using a revolver for 20 years and expecting to shoot one hole groups at 50 yards... chances are it ain't gonna happen. If you buy a new knife every time your latest one's finish gets marred, you have to completely relearn the ergo and everything else about it. Knives are inherantly simple tools, as are their tasks, but once you use one for a good long time you know how to best manipulate it.
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Well, this is a forum. A place of discussion. There isn't anything circular about the logic, but the conversation is designed to be. It's the very foundation of a forum. We're all entitled to our opinions here. There are opportunities here to learn something other than new knife specs, information on steel, or anything knife related. I'm not badmouthing anyone. I'm just discussing a topic and sharing an opinion. It's interesting to me that people spend time and energy disliking someone that they can easily avoid.
Disagreeing with the subject is great, agreeing is also. Discussing it is also fun and interesting. Nothing wrong with a well formulated argument. It's part of the process here. Forums wouldn't be nearly as enjoyable if we all just agreed with each other all the time
I'm not really defending the person as much as a position. I don't call anyone anyone names. It's really quite unproductive behavior and generally discredits the author of the statement. However, everyone is entitled to say what they wish. Even me.
The link wasn't posted by a fanboy either. It was originally a criticism. You can identify the posts of the people that watched the video and picked out information, from the people that just made generalized statements. My statements were speaking to the subject at hand (I watched the video after the O.P. Posted it) and only now has this really become a generalized argument.
As to thinking he has more knowlege than he does. I'm pretty sure we've all been guilty of that at one time or another
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I think some people new to outdoor activities have a hard time differentiating between "wilderness survival" and "camping". When looking for a good "survival" knife I think what Jeff said is the most important thing.
It's just a tool.
When I go backpacking I go as prepared as possible. I bring food, water (and filter) and the tools I need to do what I set out to do. I like to practice survival skills but the boy scout in me can't go into the woods without being prepared. The tools I chose are what work for me in the situations I use them in.
When it's not life or death it's all personal preference.
When it is life or death hopefully you have the will, the skill and your head on your shoulders.
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Yeah, well you're a HOG. A different class unto itself. You throw knives, some of which cost more than some peoples cars. Nutnfacny would be worried about scratching his CS San Mai Tralmaster (I think he mentioned one of his safe queens is a CS San Mai Trail Master way back when I watched his videos). His reviews are meant for people who aren't knife nuts, the average Joe's who work hard to buy one, maybe two knives and stop there.
P.S. That avatar, is still freaking me out
Nutnfancy is a lot wealthier than me. Most people are, and I work for what little I have.
But aside from that, why would non knife people want to hear him drone on and on?