Nutnfancy is Talking to Us.

dcycleman said:
yup, he does constantly say those phrases, along with your milage may vary. He always points out that this is how HIS system works and if you have another way of getting it done that works for you, go for it. I've heard him get that point across in almost every vid I've seen him make. He's always talking about weight VS capabilities, what he prefers, and if someone else doesnt mind more weight than good for them.
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Yes, he certainly does use those phrases. But he then goes on to undo all this diplomatic speech by saying things like:

"Oh you say your knife doesn't rust? You obviously need to get out more and do some hardcore survival training dudes"

"I chipped my edge when it hit the ground. Oh, you say I shouldn't let it hit the ground? You obviously don't have much experience armchair quarterback dudes"

You can't say "this is just my opinion", then in the same breath say that anyone who disagrees is inexperienced. That is not just his opinion, that is childish and combative.

And as you can probably tell, after reading this thread I did watch all of his 40min video review. :(
 
hundred mile rucks through Idaho's wilderness areas I'd consider about as hardcore survival training as you can get and I have yet to encounter any rusting issues with my knives. I hate how people make such a huge deal about spending a bunch of time proving that high carbon steel rusts when they should be taking the 2 minutes to learn how fast and easy maintaining it is.
 
The title of this thread makes NutnFancy seem so revered and divine... almost like it reads "God is Talking to Us."
 
I have no problem with Nutnfancy. He's doing his own thing and if we don't like what he's doing, don't hit the play button on his videos. As I said previously, I think he should research his facts before making videos, but I also think CNN should do the same thing. I don't tune to that channel either ;)
 
Jeff, has there been any progress on getting a RC6 in Nutnfancys' hands?
 
R.A.T. said:
This past week during our survival course students were using everything from small SAKs to 18" machetes. Knife size has NOTHING to do with survival. Period. It's all about technique and experience using the tool. Personally, I like a machete for wilderness work - I can do everything needed with this one tool. One of our co-instructors uses a 4" fixed balde, another uses a SAK. We all get the task done. Videos mean nothing to me but I don't bash someone for making a video about what they personally like. However, where the rubber meets the road is when you put a guy in the bush, stress them with tasks and limited tools, and force them to use their knife. Only then do they learn what works best for them. Backyard chopping and wood splitting really doesn't mean anything since it's such a controlled environment. You need to be dead tired, stressed from the elements, hungry, cold, sweating, etc. to really understand what works best for you as a "survival" tool.
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I don't think he ever said you couldn't do the job with a small blade. Again simple point large blade>small blade for spitting wood not sure that is a controversial point.
He also covers the tired/stressed/environmental issues pretty well in the review.
 
beef said:
Yes, he certainly does use those phrases. But he then goes on to undo all this diplomatic speech by saying things like:

"Oh you say your knife doesn't rust? You obviously need to get out more and do some hardcore survival training dudes"

"I chipped my edge when it hit the ground. Oh, you say I shouldn't let it hit the ground? You obviously don't have much experience armchair quarterback dudes"

You can't say "this is just my opinion", then in the same breath say that anyone who disagrees is inexperienced. That is not just his opinion, that is childish and combative.
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If I can add on to this - his video request. There are a lot of experts that are known world wide, but there are also ppl that aren't exactly experts but know their stuff. So how come the only proof of one's words being valid is if you have a vid to back them up? That's a bit snobbish if you ask me.
Maybe I'm wrong but seems to lack some logic if you ask me
 
I personally Like NutnFancy's reviews. They are in-depth, realistic and unbiased. He's only helping the knife community.
 
Dizwolf said:
eh. A knife is a knife. In a real survival situation, ie, when you're lost/traped in by a storm, You really don't sit around thinking "crap, I wish I had X, or a longer Y" You just take stock of what you have, and what you need to get done. Anything with a sharp side and a pointy end is going to work. Within a week's timespan, we had photos posted of KGD making a bowdrill with an RC3, then me doing it with a Lite Machete. The size of the knife doesn't really matter so much as having one. You can always baton a small knife, or use a large blade for detail work.

Different knives may have different approaches to tasks, and some are surely better at one task than another. But looking for the perfect blade for an unpredictable situation is time that could be used better with learning technique or method. I like my RC5/6 and RTAK II.... but I wouldn't be sad if I was lost with my RC3 or HEST
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You tell it brother.
 
R.A.T. said:
. . .Knife size has NOTHING to do with survival. . .
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Oh come on, man. "Size doesn't matter" is the #2 lie women always tell.

R.A.T. said:
Period. It's all about technique and experience using the tool.
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Spoken like a man with small tools. :p


Before anyone gets their panties in a twist, I know Jeff uses a machete, and IIRC not a dinky little 12" one.

R.A.T. said:
However, where the rubber meets the road is when you put a guy in the bush, stress them with tasks and limited tools, and force them to use their knife. Only then do they learn what works best for them.
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And there's what a lot of folks don't get -- what works for them.
My choice, may not be your choice, may not be Nutnfancy's choice. So, who's right? So long as the individual's choice has been tested, we all are -- for ourselves.

PayetteRucker said:
hundred mile rucks through Idaho's wilderness areas I'd consider about as hardcore survival training as you can get and I have yet to encounter any rusting issues with my knives. I hate how people make such a huge deal about spending a bunch of time proving that high carbon steel rusts when they should be taking the 2 minutes to learn how fast and easy maintaining it is.
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In my experience, knives only rust when you don't use them. Other than kitchen knives, I own exactly one stainless knife (Buck 110 -- every self respecting knife guy is required to own one ;) ), my other knives and axes don't rust, and I live fairly close to the Atlantic ocean. If they don't rust in salty, humid air, they won't rust anywhere. Trick is to use them, or oil them for storage.
 
styx said:
If I can add on to this - his video request. There are a lot of experts that are known world wide, but there are also ppl that aren't exactly experts but know their stuff. So how come the only proof of one's words being valid is if you have a vid to back them up? That's a bit snobbish if you ask me.
Maybe I'm wrong but seems to lack some logic if you ask me
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you're right, there are people the world over that know thier stuff, that dont have any vids. however, on the internet the only way to prove that you do what you say, is to make a vid of it. Its not snobbish, it simply validates one's claims.
 
personally I cant watch nutfancys videos, Its not that I dont think he knows what he is doing, he probably has alot more experience and skills than I do, and its not that he doesnt make some good points or observations many of his points and opinions are valid. Its more that his style of videos and communicating are not my cup of tea. Knives I believe , are tools some are better for certain situations than others, but even that can sometime be a matter of personal preference or comfort. The overly opinionated people on you tube tend to turn me off. People like bushcraftbartons, john cambell of arizona bushman, dave wendall of bushcraft on fire, and dave canteburrys old vids do a better job of being informative.
 
Am I the only one that doesn't like that guy? I think he's too focused on being "tacticool" even when he's talking about survival.
 
BoxANT said:
I saw it more as his dislike of small survival blades, he prefers medium choppers. I live in snow country and don't have a problem w/ a 4" carbon blade, but to each his own.

Personally, the A1 is too expensive for what you get, would rather save my bones and get a Junglas ;)
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Hey youre a 2 min drive from me
 
Here's my take on Nutnfancy.

On one hand I truly do appreciate that there is someone like Nutnfancy out there who reviews a lot of knives, guns and gear. Another opinion to wrap your head around I guess. I'll give him that much.

On the the other hand though, I don't care for the way Nutnfancy presents himself and the way he does reviews. It takes him 30 plus minutes to say what most us could in 5 minutes. He is long winded, even by his own admission. It annoys me personally, but I won't fault someone for being thorough.

His background has always has been in question. Some say he's Airforce, some say he's a mall ninja....honestly...I don't know either way, don't know that I care either way. Like anyone else with a Youtube account or an opinion on the internet, I take their views with a grain of salt and make up my own mind in the end. I don't regard him as an expert, nor do I disregard him as a noob. I watch some of his vids and agree with what he has to say sometimes and other times I'm in drastic opposition.

I guess in the end though Nutnfancy doesn't really bug me that much personally. What bugs me though is the cult that surrounds him. That's not his fault. Those who follow him blindly are truly the mall ninja, fanboy, tacticool crowd....he seems to draw them. Again, that's not his fault. Someone who can go on Youtube and state their opinion with confidence is regarded as an "expert" by that crowd and they'll follow him like sheep.

Honestly, the more I think about it, it's not that Nutnfancy is bad at all, it's his followers ultimately that give him the bad rep he doesn't deserve.
 
Holy thread resurrection! I've seen his videos on the RC-3 and ESEE-4. I have also watched every video on the tube and the interweb on these two knives as I have a ESEE-4 on order. I don't remember his video offending me or swaying my opinion ether way on the knife. Some people here are way too sensitive of the crap other people say.
 
I like nutnfancy, although I don't watch many of his videos anymore the old stuff was kewl.. he just gives his take on what works for him, big deal ymmv...

EVERYONE has an opinion nowadays, and he just gives his fwiw..

I also prefer a large knife, you get NOWHERE fast with small blades.. period..

i like a saw, machete, and medium blade with me anytime I'm out and about..that's what works for me at the moment....
 
I have to tell you a funny. This weekend Jeff and I worked the Smokey Mountain Knife Rep Weekend Show in Pidgeon Forge, TN. A guy asks me at the counter if in a survival situation would our knives work to filet a fish. I said if in a survival situation a knife has nothing to do with the fish. I would poke a stick up his mouth and roast him whole over a fire if I had the luxury of a fire or simply eat him raw..:)
 
And that IS funny because people's idea of survival is a bunch of B.S. for the most part.

Internet = best thing in the world, worst thing in the world.

Who cares what this dude has to say? Who cares if he was in the Air Force or is a mall ninja or whatever "operator" title he or someone else tags him with?

And I REALLY give less than a shit about knife comparison controversies and other attention whore activities on the internet. Good grief.
 
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