Yup, the GB&U is a great place to learn who to put on your ignore list and who not to deal with. Passing on a bad knife you knew was bad? Complaining about that very thing? Weird desperate non-firm price drops? Just crazyness.....
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Yup, the GB&U is a great place to learn who to put on your ignore list and who not to deal with. Passing on a bad knife you knew was bad? Complaining about that very thing? Weird desperate non-firm price drops? Just crazyness.....
Folks, I got a PM from asdf12345 a couple days ago asking for advice, and ultimately help in figuring out how the exchange works. It's a good question and I am glad he asked. I sent a pretty lengthy reply offering a lot of suggestions and if it is working well for him now, I'm glad. It's hard to see pots calling kettles in here, when we are all capable of making a mistake here and there are when we are not sure the level of OCD we deal with when selling items to out fellow forumites.
I've had a couple run ins with people like this in the past and it was a learning experience. Remember, we (moderators) are here to help with issues, questions, concerns, etc. We don't have all the answers, but sometimes a good discussion can make a positive impact. We don't all agree on what constitutes a NIB knife, blade play, light use, on and on. However, we can learn from one another by lessening the animosity overall.
Those that know me from the forums, can tell you that I am an advocate of giving people a second chance and allowing folks an opportunity to redeem themselves if they make an honest mistake. I do not allow someone to run roughshot and screw people over time and time again. What is RD saying here? Simple. We are all in the process of learning and improving. Helping one another is always a good thing, and if someone tries to share ways to get that done, we should not greet that sentiment with cynicism and negativity. That is my 2 cents on this. We ALL have something to learn, myself included.
Your humble Jr. Cat Herder,
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I just took a look at your sales thread.
Great job describing everything, and any issues that are important to a buyer.
Pictures that are clear are also critical.
Overall I am very impressed, I hope that more members follow a similar approach, clarity up front takes care of headaches later on.
I completely agree, I just had a situation where I had a trade fir one of my knives. Now since this member was new and had 0 feedback and we're talking $500 knives here, I asked him to send out his knife first, which he agreed to. I adked abouf lock up and he said it was solid. I git the knive and it was in good shape, flipped it open a few times, everything ok too so next was lock up test. There was no side to side but as soon as I went to test for up and down, the knife folded on itself!!! I was amazed, I thought maybe I somehow bumped the linerlock so being careful not to be next to the lock I tried again and same thing. I was only using a lil strength and it folded everytime I tried. After a few times I stopped as to not damage the lock znd messaged the seller that im returning his knife and why. I dont expect every knife to survive spine wacks but if it can be folded with lil effort, that seems dangerous to me. I use all my knives no matter the price and I would be scared to cut anything last pap with it. Like a few others already noted, I dont think the buyer should be stuck with a knife thst hes unhappy about, im pretty sure the rules state that a transaction is not complete until BOTH parties are satisfied. Why should we be stuck with a subosr knife, taking a loss on a sale or be stuck with it. Talk to the seller, most are decent guys and are understanding.
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YOU SAID IT! I recently purchased a classic Kershaw Blur, limited edition, that was represented as "mint, but without it's original box." I paid top dollar for it. When it arrived I discovered that the blade had NO label markings on it. NONE, the blade was completely bare. The seller took offense when I complained. Luck was with me because I used PayPal for goods, and not the gift option. I happily paid for that protection. The seller still insists that it was purchased by his friend directly for the manager of the Kershaw factory and that's why it didn't have any markings. I own knives with that sort of history, but they still have markings and also say "PROTOTYPE" on the blade.
I don't think you will find many Kershaw knives that are stamped "PROTOTYPE", unlike other companies that stamp a couple hundred with that; Kershaw tends to keep their protos. One glaring example is when someone ended up with a prototype ZT purchased on eBay. Thomas got the knife back by trading a few other ZT knives for it. THis really should be it's own thread though, as it is much more specific than this topic.
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Rev, You know the respect I have for you and that I always accept your word.. That said, have you or anyone read the OP's Itrade page ? I did not note a situation where he noted any concerns, and the situation only exist in typing and posting new threads, or in most cases re-posting old post rather than searching the site for past answers. Last I knew, we do not get gold stars for staring threads. Wrong forum. Otherwise he ranked all his past deals as no problem, good, excellent.. Drama ?? This is in itself a thread, opening a can of worms, but not fishing.
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Rev, You know the respect I have for you and that I always accept your word.. That said, have you or anyone read the OP's Itrade page ? I did not note a situation where he noted any concerns, and the situation only exist in typing and posting new threads, or in most cases re-posting old post rather than searching the site for past answers. Last I knew, we do not get gold stars for staring threads. Wrong forum. Otherwise he ranked all his past deals as no problem, good, excellent.. Drama ?? This is in itself a thread, opening a can of worms, but not fishing.
Thank you, I appreciate that sir. I haven't checked his iTrade page, he sent me a lengthy PM a while back asking for advice and I replied. The way I see it, being honest and almost pessimistic about the condition of any item is the best way to go. What may not be a big issue to one may be a deal breaker to another. On the other end of the spectrum, people really need to have their expectations aligned with reality. There has been plenty of unrealistic expectations in some items, people that do find anything to nitpick over. THe system we have is not perfect by any means, but it works more often than not when used correctly with some research.
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Turns out the knife was real and my concerns were out of my own ignorance, but it was a learning experience!
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Above is 2 things , first a total insult to the members and mods who have "saved" yes saved the rear ends of many members who made mistakes, got taken, simply got scammed of just meet a bad member. You DO NOT KNOW what you are talking about, if you think time on site has anything to do with the results you get here. Best friends on this site get called out, lifers lose to newbies. Second a total lie, show me once where it happened. Even Guys that never exist together on this site will come to help a member they DO NOT like, in order to keep this site pure and honest. You sir IMO are starting things that belong in a total different section of the forum, because you are stating B/S that is simply not true and It only serves to disrupt the exchange. I admit, I was once told maybe certain areas in the forum were not for me, well I will tell you the Exchange is very fair, full of honor and I would suggest it may not be the best place for you. For someone complaining, and since you left positive feedback on all your buys, you also were able to sell those items without noting these mystery problems. I question if in fact you are connected to some other site ? If a decision is made here, bet your life it is BASED ON FACTS ONLY.. You need to read more and look at the members who spend countless hours just helping others, and the mods.. BTW, they are not paid sir. Not a penny.
So you would rather give others the Black-eye or the entire Exchange area ? If you are unhappy , I will paypal you at once your Gold membership. Notice , it's BUSINESS with you. Many, including me enjoy the exchange. BUSINESS does seem to cloud things, BUSINESS is left for Dealers, Who Pay a higher membership rate.
Really, then why do you cont. to bring it up ? You have a system to rate members, So if you refuse, why bring it here ?
Older as in July 2014, site clearly says read the rules and guidelines. Blasting Bladeforums, and it's exchange forum, it's members , it's mods for not judging you fairly, and giving the "older" member the benefit over you, wow. And you are dealing with one of the most caring Mod. on site in the form of Rev. , he will respond fair regardless of ALL factors you can dream up. You did not list a single knife problem that is tangible. No one here can help you buy knives at proper prices. If you get into the high end market you can expect prices to vary, it's all supply/demand. A $500 knife, REQUIRES a $500 buyer, and you or I may be the only one out these. I will leave you with this, The Exchange has the finest people I have ever not meet, The quality of knives is unsurpassed, the backside inventory is 20x's better. I have been gifted, sent extras, received hundreds of surprise goodies, and I refuse to think the 100 plus different members I have exchanged with, are not 100% solid. Even some that would not address me elsewhere on this site, leave that at the door when we deal in the Exchange. Thanks to all the Mods, Members, And Spark/Kevin for allowing the members to control free exchange. No fees, no lengthy passage to get started, and 24/7 access, where, " I WILL TAKE IT' both buys it and protects you. PROBLEM ? STOP TYPING THOSE FOUR WORDS.
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If you read older threads you will see things like this, the very best IMO, Recalcitrant America, Morrow, Esav, Ken44, Wolfmann601, GIZMOMAN, Charlie Mike, Pellel2, T. Erdelyi, Legion12, Rycen, RevDevil, ALL show up to protect the dignity of the site, and NOT ONE of these guys are my buddies, but they help EVERYONE. To say they chose sides is sooooo wrong. They Simply don't and more over they benefit little if any from the exchange. It's about as Ken44 says, doing anything to help everyone. In the below Ken44 was educating me over my dumb remark. I certainly left many out, but did not intent to, point is you are painting with a broad brush, and NOT EVEN on the canvas. Far from the truth.. Simply does not happen...
Also the site says that if you bring things to this forum, you are to name members, otherwise you are a stick stirring forum poop. You benefit no one by not address those at fault, How are you protecting anyone?
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I am done and would never hopefully buy/sell/or trade with you . I simply could not meet your imaginary requirements. Threads usually end resolved, since you never asked for an item to be resolved, this could go forever. Happy Holidays Sir
Also the site says that if you bring things to this forum, you are to name members, otherwise you are a stick stirring forum poop. You benefit no one by not address those at fault, How are you protecting anyone?
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IMO TOTAL DISRESPECT TO ALL MEMBERS, who help here. Calling all cheaters.
I am done and would never hopefully buy/sell/or trade with you . I simply could not meet your imaginary requirements. Threads usually end resolved, since you never asked for an item to be resolved, this could go forever. Happy Holidays Sir