"Objective" folder tests?

If tests like this are important to someone they should be relevant to their particular uses.
So you can beat on it with a hammer or hang off it without it folding, does this mean you're going ever do this ?

BTW if I cared I'd want the tester to be using a high quality torque wrench.
 
Glenn056 said:
Even if somehow faked, which I think would be not needed anyway, no way is there a current lock in the market that could overpower the Triad in strength, atleast of knives of similar weight, thickness etc. None.

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I agree completely. There are also no other knives that have worse blade to handle ratios and cheesier model names
 
johnnytoxin said:
I agree completely. There are also no other knives that have worse blade to handle ratios and cheesier model names
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I never said cold steel makes the best knives. I like the brand overall, but i prefer ZT. Yes i agree the names like BROKEN SKULL or IMMORTAL or GARGHhHhH!!! are kinda cheesy and frankly lame. But their locks are the strongest, and even so the triad isnt my favourite for usual edc. I prefer ti framelocks for the time being. So I'm not being a fanboy here.

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marcinek said:
Its actually staggering hard to come up with controlled experiments and hard data. Sooo many variables.

Doesn't stop people with coming up with "proof" and "facts" though.
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Yup. I honestly have some ideas, but they would be prohibitively expensive. Partly because the ideas involving lock strength would A. Require testing enough of each model to narrow down the standard deviation and B. Invariably destroy the knives in the test.
 
I think it would be a pretty big undertaking to impartially test all of the popular folders out there. I'm sure that some frame locks and liner locks that are mass produced, would perform differently, due to differing manufacturing tolerances. Even if you had two of the same make and model, you could get different results.

You would never make a large percentage of people happy either, because there will always be those who go into an emotional tail spin if their favorite does not do well.

Also, there will always be those who yammer on about their personal use philosophy for knives, and why everyone else should adhere to that philosophy. ;)
 
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I agree completely. There are also no other knives that have worse blade to handle ratios and cheesier model names
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All companies have the right and ability to use their own testing to either prove or disprove these videos.
 
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I only focused initially on his claim that cold steel has funky names for some of the folders, but come to think of it, which cold steel folder exactly that had bad blade to handle ratio? I really don't recall one. Even folders with a front choil like the american lawman or folders with extra stuff at the back like the ak47 seem alright to me.
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Glenn056 said:
ouchie
I only focused initially on his claim that cold steel has funky names for some of the folders, but come to think of it, which cold steel folder exactly that had bad blade to handle ratio? I really don't recall one. Even folders with a front choil like the american lawman or folders with extra stuff at the back like the ak47 seem alright to me.
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Eh. Nothing with the Triad is gonna have fantastic blade-to-handle, just by nature of the design, and some are quite actively bad, like the 4-Max at what, .66? But they're not universally terrible and there's definitely worse out there.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Eh. Nothing with the Triad is gonna have fantastic blade-to-handle, just by nature of the design, and some are quite actively bad, like the 4-Max at what, .66? But they're not universally terrible and there's definitely worse out there.
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And as far as names go, CS has nothing on "Death On Contact".
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Eh. Nothing with the Triad is gonna have fantastic blade-to-handle, just by nature of the design, and some are quite actively bad, like the 4-Max at what, .66? But they're not universally terrible and there's definitely worse out there.
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Yeah they're not the best, they're sure as hell ain't like CRKs, I agree with you, but yup, nothing that bad to the point of being associated with CS particularly.

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What's the handle blade ratio obsession with some?

I need a handle which fits my hand so that's a given. Then I need different blades for different tasks or legalities.
A ratio of the two to each other never even entered my mind in a buying guide decision.

Maybe in a niche scenario where I need something very small and concealable but still want the maximum blade length possible in that little package?

What am I missing?
Please help.

Thank you.
 
Jens Schuetz said:
What's the handle blade ratio obsession with some?

I need a handle which fits my hand so that's a given. Then I need different blades for different tasks or legalities.
A ratio of the two to each other never even entered my mind in a buying guide decision.

Maybe in a niche scenario where I need something very small and concealable but still want the maximum blade length possible in that little package?

What am I missing?
Please help.

Thank you.
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Don't get it either. I always want a decent size handle, as some cuts are otherwise precarious, but sometimes I want 2" of blade, sometimes I want 4".
 
Jens Schuetz said:
What's the handle blade ratio obsession with some?

I need a handle which fits my hand so that's a given. Then I need different blades for different tasks or legalities.
A ratio of the two to each other never even entered my mind in a buying guide decision.

Maybe in a niche scenario where I need something very small and concealable but still want the maximum blade length possible in that little package?

What am I missing?
Please help.

Thank you.
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It's about flexing that engineering muscle. How much blade can you fit in that handle? How light can you get it and while doing that can you make it stronger, thinner? There's a few touches that really min/max design and a great b/h ratio is indicative that some extra care went into the design. I find that far more appealing than the 'strength' of a lock.
 
Schwifty said:
It's about flexing that engineering muscle. How much blade can you fit in that handle? How light can you get it and while doing that can you make it stronger, thinner? There's a few touches that really min/max design and a great b/h ratio is indicative that some extra care went into the design. I find that far more appealing than the 'strength' of a lock.
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I personally like the efficiency of good blade to handle ratio, Benchmade for example does every well on this department(0.79 for 710 and 0.76 for 940). However there are also some very popular knives out there with poor blade:handle ratio, most famously the Paramilitary 2, Manix 2, Native, Delica & etc. It shows that there are other aspect of the design that's more important to knife buyers. I think it all comes down to ergonomic and personal preference.
 
I think if the handle fits my hand comfortably and properly and the blade is whatever length it needs to be to accomplish the task at hand, then the actual ratio is really unimportant.
 
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