Oh no...I've gone and done it.

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I've gotten serious about building a big knife.

This all started a few weeks ago, when I was thinking about - of all people - Skammer and his Busse Battle Mistress.

I remember he used to talk about how a big knife was so much better than an axe and his need for one tool etc, etc. Frankly I never really bought in to his approach, mainly because I think for most problems there are a lot of good solutions.

But one thing he said that I did think was quite true was that often, you don't need big axe chopping power. You need the more machete-like ability to cut poles that are unsupported, say for making shelter. I think that's quite true, and it's something an axe doesn't do very well at.

Of course it's also pretty easy to just bend over a thinnish evergreen and rock a sharp knife through it at the bend...but I'm getting off topic.

The point is I thought I might like to have something that is halfway between a machete and an axe. A big knife that chops, but also slices, with a long edge. That's really the only advantage over an axe that I can think of, anyway.

I thought about buying a Battle Mistress but they are pretty pricey...I can't really justify the cost at this time. And you know I am not a big fan of choils, either. Also I mistakenly believed they didn't go for convex grinds at Busse, although yesterday I found out they do some of those.

But guys like Scott Gossman do nice big convexed knives...I thought I might like one of his but there is quite a wait. Why not make my own?

So I drew up something that was pretty similar to those Nuclear Meltdown Battle Mistresses, but subtracted everything I didn't want and tonight I started grinding.

Here is the rough shape:

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Then I smoothed it out. I also laid that front edge on a flat block with 180 grit wet/dry paper and slid it back and forth until the edge was straight as an arrow.

Here it is after smoothing it out a bit, next to a BRKT Aurora for scale. I'm not really done with the handle...it is a little too bulgy still. But I will sort that out later.

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Next I started grinding the profile in. That's why I haven't finished off the handle shape...I have my belt grinder slacked off and the guide is off it, so I wouldn't be able to get a good flat grind. Anyway, this is 1/4" stock. I scribed a line down the center of the blade, then I started grinding. I took off 0.075" from one side, and then took this picture.

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That went pretty well. I have been making a pass on the grinder, then inspecting the blade. I keep my calipers right there, and make a lot of measurements, just so that I am sure that everything is being ground evenly. I also have flourescent shop lights above the bench, so I can line up the lights with the knife and roll it back and forth in my hand, watching the reflection to make sure it is straight all the time. That way, I know I am grinding everything very evenly. So far it has gone pretty well.

I left the one side alone for a bit and went to work on side 2. Here it is after I took 0.050" off:

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And one last shot...went a little crazy on the aperature there I guess! Depth of field maybe a little short eh! But I was hoping to get a clear picture of the convexedness...not sure if that really worked out or not.

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So to you guys who were answering my chopper grind questions, look what you've gone and facilitated! I don't think I can stand to grind much more today and tomorrow is a busy day, but I will probably do some more this weekend.

Steel is O1, I don't think I mentioned that. Jesus that stuff isn't real cheap, either, is it! Length overall is 17.25", blade is 2.375" at the widest point. There will be a bit of a hammer poll when I am done, I think, although if I don't like it I can always grind it off.

Anyway that's been my day! What do you think?
 
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good work! just dont add a choil, that tends to bother the Busse clan........

No worries about that! I don't need a choil or the poking-out guard with the hole in it they seem to have as a trademark... I hope they aren't too annoyed with me for making something similar but in any case I won't be selling this so I don't think they would care. I was shooting for something halfway between a Busse and a Gossman, but it's hard to know if I got there or not.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery though guys! Don't sue me!
 
Very cool, really nice work :thumbup:
I'm curious, how much does it weigh as is?
 
oh hell yes! looks great! and since i'm in the same city I hereby offer up my time to go test it for you once you finish it! :)

where did you get the 01 BTW? and how much was that slab?
 
Looking good so far! I have to say, I like that design without the choil!
 
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For my ONE THOUSANDTH POST I would like to say Thanks Man!

I picked up the O1 at metal supermarket out in Burnaby, and man...it wasn't cheap.

I had to get a 1/4" x 2 1/2" x 36" section and it cost me about $180. No kidding.

I actually might make a couple more knives out of the remainder and sell them to defray the costs, that's how much it cost me!

If the heat treat goes well and it doesn't shatter on the first thing I try to chop I would be happy to let you give her a go though!
 
Looks good. I think a Battle Mistress/Machete without a choilwould be a mean camp knife.

My one suggestion is that you could add/change the pommel to havea flatter butt so it will be able to hammer things without shredding them.
 
Ray:

Well, it is Canada, and everything is more expensive...the guys in the shop couldn't believe what it cost them to get it, actually. They only made about 10% on the deal!

Thanks for the compliment...any compliment from you is deeply gratifying, your stuff is incredible!

So thank you very much!

Orrey

You are right and I probably will...I just haven't settled on a hammer shape yet so I left a chunk of steel to work with later. Good call.
 
Looks like a great start to what should be quite a chopper.
Post some picts when you finish it.
 
misanthropist, looks like the blade is coming out nice. Convex is a good grind choice for something like this. Big knives have some advantages over axes - like having a longer blade, which makes limbing relatively small branches easier, especially where there isn't too much space to swing an axe.

good work! just dont add a choil, that tends to bother the Busse clan........

It's not the choil that bothers them, it's the kind of lanyard hole in the finger guard.
 
Great start, I really like the design, can't wait to see the finished product. O1 is my favorite steel.:thumbup:
 
That looks really nice. to bad it cost so much though. I just looked in Jantz
knife making and a peace of 1/4" thick by 36" long and 2" wide is $47.95. What is the exchange rate between the U.S. dollor and the Canadian dollor?
Really Good job on your knife design.

Bryan
 
looks like a pretty sweet big blade there.

are you grinding entirely on a slack belt? i have found that its alot easier to take 50%-80% of the metal off on a flat platen, it goes faster and gives a flatter grind. then i take the rest off on the slack belt after that..

looks good though, i'm curious to see how it turns out!
 
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