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I don't think you picked up what I put down. So, I'll just leave it at that.
I have neither a company nor do I have products, you might be thinking about Carothers Performance Knives, who I work with.
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I don't think you picked up what I put down. So, I'll just leave it at that.
I have neither a company nor do I have products, you might be thinking about Carothers Performance Knives, who I work with.
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Final Option put bodog's personal opinion from another thread on this thread..... for some reason. This thread is about Olamic Tactical and their awesome blades. Great pics, I am more and more impressed with these blades and options at the price point. Its good to see bodog is not sensitive and falling into the trap. I wish all good things for this company and to give them buiseness down the road
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No, Final Option quoted Bodogs silliness from this thread and Bodog deleted that portion of his post to try and curb negativity. If he wanted to do that he could have just not mentioned other companies by name. Bodog seems to have a knack for stirring up stuff. This thread is no different.
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It's not silliness if simply listing common complaints but the first several posters had me quickly reconsider listing common complaints about other companies in the thread. The same thing could be accomplished without the list so I deleted it even though it's absolutely true that those are common complaints. Not worth arguing about, they're common complaints and you would have to be blind to ignore them. But were they necessary for this particular thread? No. So I deleted them. But instead of just letting that pass by you and a couple others have made it a goal to harp on it instead of just talking about Olamic.
Feel free to take that quote and start a new thread so it can be a stand alone discussion if you feel so strongly about it instead of cluttering this thread with pointless arguing. I asked the mods to remove the quote in Final Option's post to keep guys like you pacified and they haven't so I assume they are OK with you and others creating malcontent even though I did what I could to mitigate it. So I guess continue on with whatever you feel like.
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ApostleP made it pretty clear to his viewers that inexcusable behavior is met with a blind eye on this site so dont argue bodog. This thread has been derailed and its not gonna get back on track. Best just to ignore it before the wolf pack urge goes full retard.
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The fact that ApostleP, Nick Shabazz, and several other normally pretty critical reviewers think so highly of Olamic should say something. Normally they can find flaws and are vocal about them but they really couldn't with Olamic's knives. Pretty impressive even if that's all one has to make a decision.
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Agreed!
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Well if apostleP likes them then I ought to too!
Personally, I'm not even close to having my fill of mokume ti.
Personally, I'm not even close to having my fill of mokume ti.
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I used the term "fanboy" because I interpret it to have a different meaning than a fan or enthusiast. I've come to know a fanboy as someone who is fanatical about something and that can see no faults, or overlook them, and that talks down any peers in order to boost up and make their favorite seem better.
You may or may not fit that profile in regards to Olamic, but the OP started off sounding like it was going that direction which usually degrades quickly and puts opinion and personal preference over facts and tolerance of dissenting views. Stating a detent ramp is a new and original (?) feature isn't true even if it isn't a common one. And talking down some of the more popular companies with some likely truths but mostly negative opinions is a surefire way to get a negative response.
You probably had nothing but good intentions but it didn't come across that way. And saying someone kept a quote of your words as "bait" isn't going to win people over when it is what you said to begin with. Owning up to what you said and explaining the comments would seem less argumentative but that's just my opinion.
And the reason you didn't get the response you hoped for isn't because everyone is overly sensitive on the internet. It's because you did the opposite of "weigh pros and cons in a purely neutral way" and you tried to apply your opinions and personal tastes for a company you like and against some of the most popular companies instead of letting people come to their own conclusions. Again, just my opinion and maybe you can turn this around into a lasting Olamic appreciation thread. Giving undeserving credit, painting the most popular brands with only negativity, and then blaming others for being overly sensitive while not being accepting of others opinions which may differ from yours, isn't a very good way to start I wouldn't think.
I actually like the look of the Olamic Wayfarer 247 and have been researching it the last week or 2 so I really have nothing against OT but I can appreciate the good and bad about different brands as nobody is perfect. Does OT actually make their damascus? Most makers using CNC and modern materials aren't forging damascus as well.
Anyways, enjoy your knives.
Edit: You should also like knives because you like them. Not because someone on YouTube, possibly with an almost impossibly annoying voice, says they like them and they think they are good. As someone else said, this thread has already chose it's path and was doomed from the start and trying to explain why I think it happened is silly.
You may or may not fit that profile in regards to Olamic, but the OP started off sounding like it was going that direction which usually degrades quickly and puts opinion and personal preference over facts and tolerance of dissenting views. Stating a detent ramp is a new and original (?) feature isn't true even if it isn't a common one. And talking down some of the more popular companies with some likely truths but mostly negative opinions is a surefire way to get a negative response.
You probably had nothing but good intentions but it didn't come across that way. And saying someone kept a quote of your words as "bait" isn't going to win people over when it is what you said to begin with. Owning up to what you said and explaining the comments would seem less argumentative but that's just my opinion.
And the reason you didn't get the response you hoped for isn't because everyone is overly sensitive on the internet. It's because you did the opposite of "weigh pros and cons in a purely neutral way" and you tried to apply your opinions and personal tastes for a company you like and against some of the most popular companies instead of letting people come to their own conclusions. Again, just my opinion and maybe you can turn this around into a lasting Olamic appreciation thread. Giving undeserving credit, painting the most popular brands with only negativity, and then blaming others for being overly sensitive while not being accepting of others opinions which may differ from yours, isn't a very good way to start I wouldn't think.
I actually like the look of the Olamic Wayfarer 247 and have been researching it the last week or 2 so I really have nothing against OT but I can appreciate the good and bad about different brands as nobody is perfect. Does OT actually make their damascus? Most makers using CNC and modern materials aren't forging damascus as well.
Anyways, enjoy your knives.
Edit: You should also like knives because you like them. Not because someone on YouTube, possibly with an almost impossibly annoying voice, says they like them and they think they are good. As someone else said, this thread has already chose it's path and was doomed from the start and trying to explain why I think it happened is silly.
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Where was that said? You like whatever you want.
On the contrary, I find that Olamic Tactical/Olamic Cutlery's selection is rather limited, in terms of designs and intended purpose.
There are several collectors, bladesmiths, and makers who would disagree with you.
I would have to disagree with some aspects of this statement. I find their aesthetic sense to be quite gaudy and highly reminiscent of an era where "knife pimpers" were prominent. Moreover, given that their knives don't fall into most collectors' definition of "custom", I find their prices to be quite high for the product you receive. While their direct price is lower than the secondary prices of many makers' knives, keep in mind that their direct price is higher than the direct price of many knifemakers. [/quote]
Other than the last two points, there's hardly a shortage of knifemakers working today that fit your description.
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Because that wing nut states there are a bunch of meanies here that makes it so???
Please.
Boodog knew exactly what he was doing and what would follow. This isn't the first, nor will it be the last time he does it.
Maybe read more and post less till you get a feel for this place.
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Those knives in the OP aren't mine. They're pretty danged impressive though.
Here's what used to be on Olamic's page before they switched to Olamic Tactical. World knives basically copied and pasted it
http://www.worldknives.com/info/olamic-cutlery-fine-russian-damascus-knives-100.html
The Origins of OLAMIC CUTLERY:
Olamic Cutlery is a young company. But it's roots are sunk deep into the old ways of the region using local materials and time tested techniques to make these special knives.
Founder, Eugene Solomonik, is involved in all aspects of the company. Here are some comments he has about the origin of Olamic Cutlery.
"I started Olamic Cutley along with my father on November 10, 2010. That,s my parents in the picture above. My family has a long history of outdoor adventures. By age ten I was navigating rapids, fishing, and surviving in Russia's wild Northwestern region, Karelia. For a few weeks out of the year, those rivers, lakes, and forests were my home.
Now that same region provides us with Birch wood and Vanadium steel. What shaped me into who I am today, now helps shape our knives and that just makes it all that much sweeter. In a way part of me goes into every knife. The word "Olamic" literally means "everlasting" and that is exactly what we're after."
Solomonik goes onto say:
"My fondest memories are of Karelia, Russia's most Northwestern region its lakes, rivers, and forests were my home for two to four weeks every summer. I've crossed rivers, kayaked, navigated rapids, fished for pike, started fires, built tents, witnessed polar days, picked berries, and learned basic survival skills. Something, somewhere always needed cutting: it didn't take long for me to learn how to appreciate a good knife."
"We moved to California since then and a few years back made a similar camping trip to Alaska. Many of my early outdoor memories came back, including the appreciation for good blades. And so last year we started a brand of our own knives. Our facility is located in the historic epicenter of Russias metalworking industry and employs 6 workers who, combined, have nearly 100 years of experience!
OLAMIC CUTLERY: How The Knives Are Made
"Every knife is made by three different people: one to forge it, another to shape/finish the blade, and a third to create the handle. We aim to maintain a Russian feel to the knives by using handle materials such as young Karelian Birch and utilizing only proven Russian steels."
The construction method used for making any knife is foundational for it's endurance and longevity. Every region that is know for its knife-making uses construction techniques that are different. Solomonik shares the following about how Olamic knives are made:
"We've worked hard to perfect our Damascus recipe and learned that it cannot be done by machine. It requires the skill of a veteran artisan, fire, steel, a hammer and lots of time.
The knives are forged and shaped by hand with meticulous attention to detail and a deeply-rooted respect for the metallurgic art. To us, there is no other way. After all, a blade makes the knife, but a man makes the blade.
Our workshop thrives on specialization. The creation of a knife is split into logical stages, each conducted by a specialist. Workers are trained in their respective areas: blade forging and shaping; heat-treatment and acid etching; final assembly and handle-work. This method ensures quality at every level and makes for impeccable fit and finish. We aim to create truly stunning pieces suitable for use or display."
The Steel used by OLAMIC CUTLERY
It has been said that the heart of any good knife is the steel. If this is true than Olamics heart is a strong one. This from Eugene Solomonik:
"For centuries, craftsmen, blacksmiths, and even scholars attempted to unlock the secret behind Damascus steel. It took John Verhoeven, a Materials Science Professor and Alfred Pendray, a master bladesmith to figure out exactly what made Damascus steel so legendary (Scientific American, Vol. 284, 2001).
The secret turned out to be banded iron carbide particles. On a molecular level the steel must contain an impurity: Vanadium or Molybdenum. Small traces of these elements in high-carbon Damascus produce impeccable carbide bonds. The result is a hard cutting edge and rugged flexibility.
The chemical composition of our Damascus features both elements, making for a superior and historically accurate blade. After acid etching, a beautiful damascene pattern is uncovered, adding that final touch to every knife."
OLAMIC CUTLERY Warranty and Care Information
"Most warranty statements are wordy explanations that require a Master's degree to decipher. Ours is one word: LIFETIME!
Your knife is covered for as it exists. The certificate included with every Olamic knife is proof of purchase and it is completely transferable.
We mostly use Carbon steels and they are NOT stainless. The knives could rust if not cared for properly. Please wash and oil your knife after every use and avoid storing it inside its sheath as it can gather moisture."
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^ I have a different take on this than you. It seems to me, that it's usually the responding poster's whom are the one's typing hysterical, and over the top comments in response to some of these type thread's.
We're discussing knives here; material objects!
Please explain to me how a simple knife, can bring out such rude, vile, immature hatred in some internet folks. As for myself, I just don't get it...^ They already did!
Just enter his AP's name in the search bar. I rest my case. There are some very tough keyboard typists here. Their sole purpose on BF's, is just to stir things up. Many of these people aren't even here for buying/selling, much less using knives.
On topic: I really like knives! :thumbup:
It's not a matter of being "blind", it's a matter of subjectivity and for you to drift so far as to declare it "blindness" is just further proof of the silliness. Your post history is filled with inflammatory posts followed by you begging people not to flame you. The "common complaints"-most of them-are entirely nonsensical or overwrought by people on YouTube who care about a company using a traditional lock or not being "innovative enough". So, don't say you're not being silly just to follow said silliness with even more silliness.
The ApostleP couldn't make a cogent point to save his life. His issues with BF started when he got defensive regarding someone questioning the Hartland Clip/Lanny's Clip ties. One person said one thing and he went off the rails. If that's who you want to put in with, then so be it. But don't misrepresent what happened.
It's pretty important when hitching your wagon to a you tube or forum "star" you are aware of their entire background. If not you can find yourself eating your own words when their true character shows.
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I've considered another Olamic, I really like the one I have. It's one of the early Wayfarers with a polished blade and moonglow inlays. It's just a bit too big for my tastes nowadays, still an excellent piece though. Anyways, it's unfortunate that a great company is being mentioned in this half-baked thread.
