"Old Knives"

I agree with our buddy Glenn, Rob that is a real Sweetheart! Yes...Glenn, those Bolsters look more of a Squared shape rather than the curvature - got a closed shot of that Beauty Rob kind Sir?
Didn't most of the well known Cutler Firms go all out on those smaller Knives- all the bells and Whistles - like Rob's Stunning Ulster!
 
Thanks Glenn, Duncan :thumbsup: it's more square all around, flat covers with beveled edges. The seller is a knowledgeable knife fellow, he calls it a "crown pattern" pen knife. These finely made little pearl knives never cease to amaze me with their ultra thin blades perfectly filling the well without touching each other :eek: The workmanship rivals the top custom makers of our day and for a small fraction of the cost😎

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Thanks Glenn, Duncan :thumbsup: it's more square all around, flat covers with beveled edges. The seller is a knowledgeable knife fellow, he calls it a "crown pattern" pen knife. These finely made little pearl knives never cease to amaze me with their ultra thin blades perfectly filling the well without touching each other :eek: The workmanship rivals the top custom makers of our day and for a small fraction of the cost😎

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That's a beaut Rob, classy gentleman's knife.
 
Added a couple early American single blade sheepsfoot jacks this week. This one is an A Burkinshaw, Aaron Burkinshaw (1814-1881) apprenticed in Sheffield and emigrated to the US in 1848, started a shop in Conn in the early 1850's and moved to Mass a few years later.
Knife is horn with a few bug bites, around 4", still has great snap and close to full blade, from what I can figure out tis knife was made around the time of the Civil War.



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Here is the other one, Holley Manufacturing Company, Holley started around 1844, I feel this knife is also from the American Civil War era. Large knife 4 1/4", great ebony covers with a bar shield, one of the greatest curves to the frame of any curved jack I have. Full blade with a great swedge.
Love the looks of this knife.


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Added a couple early American single blade sheepsfoot jacks this week. This one is an A Burkinshaw,
Here is the other one, Holley Manufacturing Company, Holley started around 1844.
A couple of outstanding pieces of antique cutlery John!! 😲
When I see you posting, I know it's gonna be good!!:cool:
 
I'm a little goofy for split back whittlers, and I was fortunate to spot a nice one on another forum and get a great deal on it from a gentleman on the other side of the country.

I found it on a tool forum--the fellow got it at a garage sale. I thought I recognized what it was and described it to him. He confirmed, asked if I wanted it, and offered to me. I told him his price was too low. He very kindly sold it to me for that price anyway, saying his number one rule was "Don't be greedy".

It's my first Schrade Walden, a Craftsman branded 804. It's a substantial knife, a lot heavier than it looks like it'll be when you pick it up. It appears to be unused--I don't think it's ever been on a stone. It's got some discoloration on the blades and the back springs, but not the sort of patina I'd associate with use or carry. The blades still have a reflective polish and the etch is still visible. Even the springs in the well are clean and shiny. The pic of the back springs shows what looks like a gap in the top spring. It's not--it's discoloration. It walks and talks like a Marine Corps DI. Zero pitting.

I'm a carrier much more than a collector, and based on the pictures on the other forum I thought I had a carrier. It looked a lot rougher than it turned out to be after a light cleanup. I can pepper spot a knife in about a minute and a half--I might leave this one as something of a time capsule and not carry it.

The Craftsman logo indicates 60s-70s vintage. My gut tells me 60s more than 70s. If anyone can help narrow it down please let me know.

The quality is absolutely top notch, the bone excellent. Now I get why people like these so much. It's a honey, and a damned impressive pocket knife.

I wish I could take better pics.

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The pile side is a little lighter, but not quite as much as it looks like in this pic:

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The small clip shows the most discoloration--all the blades are still shiny, even though it doesn't look like it here:

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Here you can see the Craftsman logo and the saber grind. All the blades are this shiny and reflective:

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That's not a gap in the spring--it's discoloration:

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Fit and finish done up nicely? Yeah man!

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It's amazing how shiny and un-pepper spotted the well is. One day in my pocket and it wouldn't look like this:

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A couple of outstanding pieces of antique cutlery John!! 😲
When I see you posting, I know it's gonna be good!!:cool:


Thank you all for the comments.

Charlie, thank you, I feel these 2 knives may qualify as historical given the time when both of the companies started, part of the very earliest American knife companies.
 
I'm a little goofy for split back whittlers, and I was fortunate to spot a nice one on another forum and get a great deal on it from a gentleman on the other side of the country.

I found it on a tool forum--the fellow got it at a garage sale. I thought I recognized what it was and described it to him. He confirmed, asked if I wanted it, and offered to me. I told him his price was too low. He very kindly sold it to me for that price anyway, saying his number one rule was "Don't be greedy".

It's my first Schrade Walden, a Craftsman branded 804. It's a substantial knife, a lot heavier than it looks like it'll be when you pick it up. It appears to be unused--I don't think it's ever been on a stone. It's got some discoloration on the blades and the back springs, but not the sort of patina I'd associate with use or carry. The blades still have a reflective polish and the etch is still visible. Even the springs in the well are clean and shiny. The pic of the back springs shows what looks like a gap in the top spring. It's not--it's discoloration. It walks and talks like a Marine Corps DI. Zero pitting.

I'm a carrier much more than a collector, and based on the pictures on the other forum I thought I had a carrier. It looked a lot rougher than it turned out to be after a light cleanup. I can pepper spot a knife in about a minute and a half--I might leave this one as something of a time capsule and not carry it.

The Craftsman logo indicates 60s-70s vintage. My gut tells me 60s more than 70s. If anyone can help narrow it down please let me know.

The quality is absolutely top notch, the bone excellent. Now I get why people like these so much. It's a honey, and a damned impressive pocket knife.

I wish I could take better pics.

3vYt91d.jpg


The pile side is a little lighter, but not quite as much as it looks like in this pic:

qfWRoT8.jpg


The small clip shows the most discoloration--all the blades are still shiny, even though it doesn't look like it here:

duf9chh.jpg


Here you can see the Craftsman logo and the saber grind. All the blades are this shiny and reflective:

15qoUf0.jpg


That's not a gap in the spring--it's discoloration:

fWaJsmM.jpg


Fit and finish done up nicely? Yeah man!

4gtPTyb.jpg


It's amazing how shiny and un-pepper spotted the well is. One day in my pocket and it wouldn't look like this:

PaX4quy.jpg


Nice one, love the 804's, I would say being bone would be late 1950's, by the early 60's Schrade had switched mainly over to delrin other than a few special runs of 804's.

One of mine.


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Thank you Rob for showing us the extra photo's- what a gorgeous Knife!

Augie- as our other friends have said- those two Sheepfoot Jacks are awesome- Love them!

Also my friend- nice Schrade Whittler!

Cooter Brown - Neat Sears Peachseed Whittler.
Augie is correct with the dating, I can't quite see the etched number to the right of your Craftsman Crowned Etch- it should read 9488.

These first appeared in 1948 with what was described as "Bone Stag" Handle- which meant real jigged bone, the 1948 with the earlier Craftsman etch that was underlined, these stayed on for close to 10 year like this.
Shown below is your Knife with correct etch in Sears 1961 Catalog, this is the last Genuine Bonestag 9488, and as Augie said from there seemed to be Plastic, in 1963 - 64 the 9488 was advertised as having "Staglon Plastic Handles"

Your Knife is #26 at the bottom - 2nd Colum in from the left.

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Nice one, love the 804's, I would say being bone would be late 1950's, by the early 60's Schrade had switched mainly over to delrin other than a few special runs of 804's.

One of mine.


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Thank you Rob for showing us the extra photo's- what a gorgeous Knife!

Augie- as our other friends have said- those two Sheepfoot Jacks are awesome- Love them!

Also my friend- nice Schrade Whittler!

Cooter Brown - Neat Sears Peachseed Whittler.
Augie is correct with the dating, I can't quite see the etched number to the right of your Craftsman Crowned Etch- it should read 9488.

These first appeared in 1948 with what was described as "Bone Stag" Handle- which meant real jigged bone, the 1948 with the earlier Craftsman etch that was underlined, these stayed on for close to 10 year like this.
Shown below is your Knife with correct etch in Sears 1961 Catalog, this is the last Genuine Bonestag 9488, and as Augie said from there seemed to be Plastic, in 1963 - 64 the 9488 was advertised as having "Staglon Plastic Handles"

Your Knife is #26 at the bottom - 2nd Colum in from the left.

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Thanks so much, gentlemen. My dating of the knife is based solely on the Craftsman logo. As far as I can tell the use of the so-called "crown" logo started in the early 1960s.

Augie Augie , the color of the bone on yours is spectacular.

Campbellclanman Campbellclanman , that catalog page is great! Thanks for posting it! If it's OK with you I'm going to forward it on to the fellow I got the knife from!
 
Cooter Brown that Craftsman logo was first introduced in 1958 so your knife would date between 1958 and 1961. That's pretty impressive because normally it's quite difficult to date the open stock knives within such a narrow time frame. It's often a period of decades. Great knife!

Eric
 
Cooter Brown that Craftsman logo was first introduced in 1958 so your knife would date between 1958 and 1961. That's pretty impressive because normally it's quite difficult to date the open stock knives within such a narrow time frame. It's often a period of decades. Great knife!

Eric
Thank you so much, Augie Augie , Campbellclanman Campbellclanman , and ea42 ea42

Eric, you're right--it's a great knife!!!

Thanks to all for the excellent information. There's a lot of knowledge around here, and amazing how fast you all are with it!
 
Lots of real knife stuff on this page, Augie, Rob, Cooter, Django. Thanks everyone for sharing some pictures.

Recently picked up this old Keen Kutter humpback stockman with punch. Blades and punch all look pretty full and snap nicely and all have tang stamps, although it looks like someone has done some cleaning on it and the main blade tang stamp is a bit faint.
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